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01 July 2003, 10:15 PM
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Rev... you are using the American SC300 specs aren't you... it is very different to my car...
They are heavier
Have different gearing
Have different drag [no Ground Effects package]
I have a modded Gearbox, the biggest difference here... even more than shaving 200lbs off the US car... good fun tho...
They are heavier
Have different gearing
Have different drag [no Ground Effects package]
I have a modded Gearbox, the biggest difference here... even more than shaving 200lbs off the US car... good fun tho...
01 July 2003, 10:23 PM
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So the drag co-efficient is better than 0.31, which is what I'm using?
I have weight as 3500lbs as tested.
Ratios as per previous page
No frontal area given (would be useful)
Power as 397 @ 7170
Guesstimated torque of 300lb/ft @ 6000 because it fitted the power curve.
Any information gladly received to build a more accurate model.
I have weight as 3500lbs as tested.
Ratios as per previous page
No frontal area given (would be useful)
Power as 397 @ 7170
Guesstimated torque of 300lb/ft @ 6000 because it fitted the power curve.
Any information gladly received to build a more accurate model.
01 July 2003, 10:30 PM
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I'm off to bed now, but I'm still impressed that the on-paper figures aren't a million miles from Mycroft's claims. Sub 5's to 60, 13's in the 1/4 and 180+mph from a grand tourer with "only" 400bhp is pretty good and still with some figure massaging to do.
I'll pick this up in the morning if there's any added info.
Barge, if you get chance, some specs for your car would be fun so we can hold a virtual grudge meeting
I'll pick this up in the morning if there's any added info.
Barge, if you get chance, some specs for your car would be fun so we can hold a virtual grudge meeting
01 July 2003, 10:32 PM
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So the drag co-efficient is better than 0.31, which is what I'm using?
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Yes... try 0.30 / 0.29
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I have weight as 3500lbs as tested.
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3350lbs tare...
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No frontal area given (would be useful)
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How can you get a top speed without this?
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Power as 397 @ 7170
Guesstimated torque of 300lb/ft @ 6000 because it fitted the power curve.
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310/5850...
So the drag co-efficient is better than 0.31, which is what I'm using?
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Yes... try 0.30 / 0.29
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I have weight as 3500lbs as tested.
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3350lbs tare...
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No frontal area given (would be useful)
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How can you get a top speed without this?
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Power as 397 @ 7170
Guesstimated torque of 300lb/ft @ 6000 because it fitted the power curve.
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310/5850...
01 July 2003, 10:33 PM
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I'm off to bed now, but I'm still impressed that the on-paper figures aren't a million miles from Mycroft's claims. Sub 5's to 60, 13's in the 1/4 and 180+mph from a grand tourer with "only" 400bhp is pretty good and still with some figure massaging to do.
01 July 2003, 11:11 PM
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The car test programme has compulsary fields for width and height as well as ground clearance and wheel/tyre sizes. With all this information it can guesstimate frontal area, but has an optional field for frontal area if known exactly.
01 July 2003, 11:12 PM
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Aston Martin DB7..........My Soarer
355 bhp@5750 rpm......397bhp @7170
Max. Speed
171 mph......................190mph
0-60 mph
5.4 sec......................4.9sec
Weight
1650 kg......................1515kg
355 bhp@5750 rpm......397bhp @7170
Max. Speed
171 mph......................190mph
0-60 mph
5.4 sec......................4.9sec
Weight
1650 kg......................1515kg
01 July 2003, 11:15 PM
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Aston Martin DB7..........My Soarer
355 bhp@5750 rpm......397bhp @7170
Max. Speed
171 mph......................190mph
0-60 mph
5.4 sec......................4.9sec
Weight
1650 kg......................1515kg
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355 bhp@5750 rpm......397bhp @7170
Max. Speed
171 mph......................190mph
0-60 mph
5.4 sec......................4.9sec
Weight
1650 kg......................1515kg
REPLY TO THIS PLEASE
01 July 2003, 11:27 PM
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If you want us to agree that, on paper, based on those figures given, that a Soarer with over 120bhp more than standard, will offer performance comparable or superior to a standard spec DB7 that is 135kg heavier and 42bhp worse off than your figures, then yes, we agree.
What many would like to see is third party evidence, ie dyno sheet, verified performance figures. Many others would like to see the car run in the flesh, against a pretty trick car hiding under an Escort bodyshell ;-)
What many would like to see is third party evidence, ie dyno sheet, verified performance figures. Many others would like to see the car run in the flesh, against a pretty trick car hiding under an Escort bodyshell ;-)
02 July 2003, 01:03 AM
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I'd have one of those Soarers for £10k, sounds like a bargin with all that power. I was looking at them to buy recently, but i didn't know anything about them, I got an FTO, I'm happy with the FTO for the now.
Another Soarer might come along.
Another Soarer might come along.
02 July 2003, 01:45 AM
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are we going to race or not
what is wrong with a Mk1 ford escort ?
yep its grey primer
yep its got a roll cage
yep its got loud straight thru exhausts
yep its front is fiber glass & flips
yep its got 15 inch alloy wheels
yep its got a new torque converter
yep its an automatic
yep its got new tyres
what is wrong with a Mk1 ford escort ?
yep its grey primer
yep its got a roll cage
yep its got loud straight thru exhausts
yep its front is fiber glass & flips
yep its got 15 inch alloy wheels
yep its got a new torque converter
yep its an automatic
yep its got new tyres
02 July 2003, 09:46 AM
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Brochure lists two weights 1550kg and 1825kg, guessing one may be dry weight and one maybe laden weight?
02 July 2003, 10:19 AM
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Mycroft, can you compare like for like cars for a change
ie Soarer vs datsun Cherry
and diablo vs ferrari as examples...
what you have it a depeciateing piece of toss engineering, that no ones heard of, and you are trying to compare it with the best of british sports car marques!!!
see how stupid you sound now...
like comparing a stepthru honda c90 (rocket powered) to a hyabusa
very sad..
BB
- almost as sad as me reading this thread, i suppose!!
ie Soarer vs datsun Cherry
and diablo vs ferrari as examples...
what you have it a depeciateing piece of toss engineering, that no ones heard of, and you are trying to compare it with the best of british sports car marques!!!
see how stupid you sound now...
like comparing a stepthru honda c90 (rocket powered) to a hyabusa
very sad..
BB
- almost as sad as me reading this thread, i suppose!!