Sounds an interesting comparison. Top Gear recently did Supercars verses an old Jag XJS running nitrous. The Jag won...

How about both going to a Run what ya brung day at Santa Pod?

 

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man that car is one plain characterless blob
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Fine.

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anyway, the other day you said you didn't own one of these mycrock special sorers and yet today you seem to be claiming you do.
more rubbish?
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No, you just can't read things very well it seems.

It is more accurate than you posting times from a 2002 car instead of the 1996 car... you are the fool here little fella... no offence...

 

my car has spent many many miles/hours at the pod

more than willing to spend some more time

 

A 1000hp Escort is still an Escort... POS no matter what you do...

 

sorry cant make 1000 bhp

still want to race you & the mighty 400 bhp 190mph 12 second SS 1/4 car


oh my car also has a flip fiber glass front end

 

Toyota-Ford badge snobbery aside...

Barge seems man enough to accept losing...

 

said it before

I race for run, if I lose I lose if I win I win

its a game

its real

its who is the BS monkey & who is real


we gona race or not

 

right kids

you play nice I have work to do






we gona race or not ?

 

I'd like to give it a go... but a ford escort?

Yeeeuck... there is no kudos in beating that...

It aint the same as 'I humiliated a Diablo' is it... 'I thrashed an Escort'... yeah right 1.1 or 1.3... that would be humiliating in my circle of friends...

Barge, I thought you had a CAR not a JOKE!

 

P reg?... remember that?

 

What does it matter what the other car is.

Race a 1/4 mile at somewhere like Santa Pod. Your racing your own reactions and the stopwatch. You then compare times over a beer, bought by the loser, with mutual respect...

 

I have no respect for Escorts... sorry... too ''Max Power'' for me... a bloody Escort

 

I've been doing some maths.

Without accurate information on the gearbox/final drive ratios it's a bit of guesswork, but a 400bhp Soarer is good for at least 185mph. I can't get it to do 12 sec 1/4 mile on paper though, low 14's at best.

Just for clarification of someone's earlier post, weight has no effect on top speed, only acceleration. For top speed 3 things count: aerodynamics, power and gearing.

If someone could provide the correct gear ratios I'll work out what I think are accurate top speed and 1/4 mile times on paper *may not be achievable in the real world.

I beleive the cd figure is 0.31, any ideas on the frontal area?

 

Juan P-reg... you did read it didn't you?

 

No, the figures are simple and on here... re-do your maths... the exact math figure is 192.3mph... being an Auto with a final ratio of 26.7mph/1000... the car is geared for power more than economy...

 

My car will do 145mph in 'third'

 

397hp at 7170rpm...

 

from my brochure

standard gearingL
Soarer 2.5 TT manual
1 3.251
2 1.955
3 1.310
4 1.000
5 0.753
r 3.180
F 4.083

2.5tt AUTO
1 2.804
2 1.531
3 1.000
4 0.705
R 2.393
F 4.083

 

standard peak power 260ps @ 5400rpm
peak torque, 36.0kgm @ 4600rpm

not sure of exact weight - but probably somewhere around 1650-1700kg with driver

 

Yes, hello

 

Thought so...

 

Iain, whats your torque figure?

 

So just to clarify, are you racing or not? What car would you deem an acceptable opponant?

 

I'd like to see a showdown as it were, however, I get the impression Mycroft is not willing to drive down a straight bit of tarmac against a Ford.

Notorious- What program are you using to model the performance?

If they won't meet in reality, the next best thing is to provide figures (with suitable evidence) for gearing, power / torque curves, weight, drag factor, frontal area etc., and compare the results from your computer.

 

Good work.

 

Pumpkin, I'm using Patrick Glenn's Car Test 4.5, so accuracy not to be relied upon, however it's not too shabby.

 

Notorious - I thought that may be the case. I've played with that myself.

 

What figures do you need to get acceleration? Is the cd\frontal area only required for top speed?

 

I can't get the gearing to match Mycroft's mph/1000rpm figure though, standard auto gearing is 19.52mph/1000 rpm.

The figures I showed earlier are based on the manual version as it's better geared (allows another 6mph over the too-long auto). I suspect maybe the FD ratio quoted on the previous page isn't quite right.

 

FD figures checked against two Soarer brochures, 1992 and 1994