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01 July 2003, 09:05 PM
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Sounds an interesting comparison. Top Gear recently did Supercars verses an old Jag XJS running nitrous. The Jag won...
How about both going to a Run what ya brung day at Santa Pod?
How about both going to a Run what ya brung day at Santa Pod?
01 July 2003, 09:05 PM
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man that car is one plain characterless blob
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Fine.
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anyway, the other day you said you didn't own one of these mycrock special sorers and yet today you seem to be claiming you do.
more rubbish?
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No, you just can't read things very well it seems.
It is more accurate than you posting times from a 2002 car instead of the 1996 car... you are the fool here little fella... no offence...
man that car is one plain characterless blob
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Fine.
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anyway, the other day you said you didn't own one of these mycrock special sorers and yet today you seem to be claiming you do.
more rubbish?
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No, you just can't read things very well it seems.
It is more accurate than you posting times from a 2002 car instead of the 1996 car... you are the fool here little fella... no offence...
01 July 2003, 09:13 PM
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I'd like to give it a go... but a ford escort?
Yeeeuck... there is no kudos in beating that...
It aint the same as 'I humiliated a Diablo' is it... 'I thrashed an Escort'... yeah right 1.1 or 1.3... that would be humiliating in my circle of friends...
Barge, I thought you had a CAR not a JOKE!
Yeeeuck... there is no kudos in beating that...
It aint the same as 'I humiliated a Diablo' is it... 'I thrashed an Escort'... yeah right 1.1 or 1.3... that would be humiliating in my circle of friends...
Barge, I thought you had a CAR not a JOKE!
01 July 2003, 09:15 PM
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What does it matter what the other car is.
Race a 1/4 mile at somewhere like Santa Pod. Your racing your own reactions and the stopwatch. You then compare times over a beer, bought by the loser, with mutual respect...
Race a 1/4 mile at somewhere like Santa Pod. Your racing your own reactions and the stopwatch. You then compare times over a beer, bought by the loser, with mutual respect...
01 July 2003, 09:17 PM
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I've been doing some maths.
Without accurate information on the gearbox/final drive ratios it's a bit of guesswork, but a 400bhp Soarer is good for at least 185mph. I can't get it to do 12 sec 1/4 mile on paper though, low 14's at best.
Just for clarification of someone's earlier post, weight has no effect on top speed, only acceleration. For top speed 3 things count: aerodynamics, power and gearing.
If someone could provide the correct gear ratios I'll work out what I think are accurate top speed and 1/4 mile times on paper *may not be achievable in the real world.
I beleive the cd figure is 0.31, any ideas on the frontal area?
Without accurate information on the gearbox/final drive ratios it's a bit of guesswork, but a 400bhp Soarer is good for at least 185mph. I can't get it to do 12 sec 1/4 mile on paper though, low 14's at best.
Just for clarification of someone's earlier post, weight has no effect on top speed, only acceleration. For top speed 3 things count: aerodynamics, power and gearing.
If someone could provide the correct gear ratios I'll work out what I think are accurate top speed and 1/4 mile times on paper *may not be achievable in the real world.
I beleive the cd figure is 0.31, any ideas on the frontal area?
01 July 2003, 09:22 PM
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No, the figures are simple and on here... re-do your maths... the exact math figure is 192.3mph... being an Auto with a final ratio of 26.7mph/1000... the car is geared for power more than economy...
01 July 2003, 09:26 PM
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from my brochure
standard gearingL
Soarer 2.5 TT manual
1 3.251
2 1.955
3 1.310
4 1.000
5 0.753
r 3.180
F 4.083
2.5tt AUTO
1 2.804
2 1.531
3 1.000
4 0.705
R 2.393
F 4.083
standard gearingL
Soarer 2.5 TT manual
1 3.251
2 1.955
3 1.310
4 1.000
5 0.753
r 3.180
F 4.083
2.5tt AUTO
1 2.804
2 1.531
3 1.000
4 0.705
R 2.393
F 4.083
01 July 2003, 09:59 PM
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I'd like to see a showdown as it were, however, I get the impression Mycroft is not willing to drive down a straight bit of tarmac against a Ford.
Notorious- What program are you using to model the performance?
If they won't meet in reality, the next best thing is to provide figures (with suitable evidence) for gearing, power / torque curves, weight, drag factor, frontal area etc., and compare the results from your computer.
Notorious- What program are you using to model the performance?
If they won't meet in reality, the next best thing is to provide figures (with suitable evidence) for gearing, power / torque curves, weight, drag factor, frontal area etc., and compare the results from your computer.
01 July 2003, 10:07 PM
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I can't get the gearing to match Mycroft's mph/1000rpm figure though, standard auto gearing is 19.52mph/1000 rpm.
The figures I showed earlier are based on the manual version as it's better geared (allows another 6mph over the too-long auto). I suspect maybe the FD ratio quoted on the previous page isn't quite right.
The figures I showed earlier are based on the manual version as it's better geared (allows another 6mph over the too-long auto). I suspect maybe the FD ratio quoted on the previous page isn't quite right.