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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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You could do the same with the GSM network....and reprogram it from the beach

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Now you're talking.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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We had Orange in on Friday helping with a web seminar for us. The new 3G technology supports a 2Mb net connection from one of their PDA's. A laptop or PC connected in-car and some simple remote PC software and you could do it easily

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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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You can in theory do it now.

GPRS connected lappy and use r/c software to control it from the comfort of your armchair @ home.

No more sweating about the ability of the driver of the car you're mapping, when you just drop the lappy in the car, connect it up & send him off with instructions
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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I wouldn't want to put my laptop in the car either - just use a mobile phone data connection to extend the length of the serial cable. Would work OK for reading, but I wouldn't want to try and write over such a dodgy connection......there's not much error control on Flash99

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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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I wouldn't want to put my laptop in the car either - just use a mobile phone data connection to extend the length of the serial cable. Would work OK for reading, but I wouldn't want to try and write over such a dodgy connection......there's not much error control on Flash99

Richard
plus the trailing cable might trip up pedestrians or get run over by cars!!

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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P1 suspension fitted. The ride quality is improved over Eibachs/MY00 dampers IMHO, the handling is excellent - ideal for fast road.

All leaks of vital fluids now stopped for the time being.

The extra compression seems to require a couple of degrees retard but it is still quite advanced and feels at least as quick.

iON turbo awaited.

Need to crack on with altering the coolant temperature signal to help cold start with a resistor. Also need to map this MAP converter and get the air filter changed.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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John, what are the specs regarding the ion turbo i.e size/fitment, power(nothing too technical ) gonna get my car running on the 05/06 first but will probaly be looking at another turbo towards the end of the year, may as well push for a little bit more now i have the internals & higher rev limit

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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It is I believe a GT30R based turbo with an IHI P20 exhaust housing to allow bolt on. It is rated at 450 BHP.
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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What is the BHP rating of the 05/06??

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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400
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Thanks John

Small but substansional step then.

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Ratings, schmatings
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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That attitude is probably why I break things Don't tell T-uk I said that
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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LOL..

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Only rated at 400 John ?

434 BHP (at 1.27 bar), 395 lbft (at 1.4 bar) at Star today.

Standard MY02 WRX did 212, P1 did c.270 as benchmarks.
Add a bit compression and remove your inlet restriction and you never know, it might just top the 440bhp it made on a 2.0

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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For plain pump fuel with capacity to spare, running cool I was thinking Andy?
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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440BHP sounds cool
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Was going to map with the MAF sensor disconnected today, but I took my last license and ECU and they fried when programmed.

With no live adjustability (have to pull in and map it each time) and other requirements I think it is finally time to get a standalone, I think the OEM ECU could do it, but the programming in car with the number of flashes I have to do is getting impractical when you need whole new maps from scratch with a MAP sensor.

So time to move onto another ECU I think (standalone). Wondering about plug in MoTeC or GEMS. Individual cylinder trimming, wideband input are required, plus ideally some knock control.

Thought about a PowerFC but the lack of laptop software and datalogging, plus keeping the MAF put me off.

With GEMS I presume you can connect a charge temperature sensor even if the original car doesn't have one?
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Think Motec would most suit John.

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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I have a Motec M48R Pro and find it excellent to use, only issue I am having at the mo is getting a decent cold start. Almost there!

The new Motec ecus are meant to be superb though. Though I quite like using the dos software tbh!

Motec will do everything you asked there.

ChristianR is selling his m48r pro with software at the mo too.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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It is wire in though isn't it? Trying to find info on the plug in versions.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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Mine is a plug in Motec ECU.

Fits into the standard ECU case. Bought from Autosportif.

GroupN spec ECU and I think the rules are you have to be able to plug in a standard ECU and it will start.

Hence my setup!
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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John M800. Appears to be the weapon of choice.

Had considered this for my car.But price had deemed this avenue a dead end

But I'm sure you knew this already

Steve.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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John, I would'nt entertain the Motec its far too expensive for road use and doesnt have that many more features than other alternatives. Been down the GEMS route and wasnt impressed, the software is not user friendly to say the least, lots of hidden menus and the fuel table is spread across 6 different places i.e. cranking fuel table, cold fuel table, cold fuel decay table, additional cold fuel table etc etc. It also requires a charge temp (post intercooler) sensor connecting.

I am going to use a DTA system on my project car, the software is free, easy to use and the ECU has all the features you will require (bar knock control I think) with spare PWM's to control other items like water Injection (and Nitrous if you like). The only thing to sort out is the crank pickup wheel and splicing it into the loom (but I know you like doing things like this anyway). It uses hall effect or optical sensors as well. A bargain at £800 ish for the M8 Pro, better priced than GEMS and much better than Motec. I have seen it working on loads of bikes and also on my friends turbo charged Civic (250 HP @TW), works very well.

Have a gander at...

DTA


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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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On and While I remember its got launch control, antilag and the Lambda software doesnt cost £400 to get switched on for a few days like Motec, its there all the time.

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Must admit, I liked the look of the DTA although I remember Mark saying that Dave Wild did not like it at all. Not sure why ?
Only drawback I see is the loom adaptor (or lack of it)

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Looks interesting Conrad, but I would prefer plug in rather than wire in. The hassles people have had with wire in systems are huge and there are a load of connections to fail on you.

Doesn't look like the D-Jetro version of the PowerFC is available but I've made some enquiries.

GEMS does look good, been playing with the software and it doesn't look so bad. I could always get Steve or Bob to give me a mapping session so I have something to later modify. Then hopefully all the finer details will be well on the way to start with?
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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What about EFI?
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Just had a look Job, looks good, but again wire in only.
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