Type R

Im happy to prove the theory , at a Track day.

MooseRacer

Cossie well of course it is don't think anyone was suggesting otherwise.

What I was taking issue with was; in one of your posts you seem to be suggesting that the S2000 is so quick to 60 because of it's gearing. I'm still not convinced

Be that as it may, Type R, I'm sure your car is quicker to 60 than a std CTR, but unless your names Saxoboy it's pretty irrelevant.

JDMCTR

Moose - Just wondering but you do realise that Type R's CTR is not one new EP3 CTR but the old EK9 CTR right?

[Edited by JDMCTR - 12/17/2002 10:49:28 PM]

Type R

No need to get the claws out chap

I hardly post on hear any more so I don't know who he is, and the chaps on hear who do know me, know that I spend more time driving round tracks, than practising 0-60 etc.

I was adding wood onto the fire of the argument that less gear changes is quicker, and backing up my argument with facts, which you havent managed to as of yet .

Dracoro

For maximum performance, stay in gear until such time that there is more power to be had in the gear above. that may be at 5000rpm or 9000rpm depending on the car.

I had a golf gti 16v once (quite revvy in itself) but I'd change up around 5500rpm rather than 6500rpm (red line IIRC) as above that it's just making more noise and changing up meant being back in the decent power band. My Corrado VR6 was similar but had more power lower down so you didn't need to thrash it so much.

Now my S2000 it's best to change almost at the 9000rpm red line but that's just the nature of the beast. In other cars it can be best to change well short of the red line. To determine the exact gear change rpm etc. you need to look at the power/torque curves in a bit more detail (power band, gear ratio's etc.)

Cosworth427

Mooseracer


The S2000 wouldnt be so quick if it couldnt run up to 9000 RPM and never had the gearing to take advantage of it. This combination of short gears and wide RPM range gives you greater flexibility to stay in the lower gears for longer and therefore having maximum torque to the wheels which you want for best acceleration.

You're right about the point that its more than just the RPM and gearing that makes the S2000 quick. It's also the fact that it has a power to weight ratio of 180 - 190 HP per tonne and RWD.

MooseRacer

JDMCTR - yup. I did know that. You might even say it's a proper CTR

Type R - I wasn't getting my claws out, honest. It's just that, while I agree that in your car raising the rev limit is beneficial, I'm trying to say that this is not automatically the case. I think Dracoro has said it better than I obviously haveAnyhow, how did I start all this?

Oh, and I've yet to hear of an EK CTR driver who was a straightline merchant, so I defo wasn't trying to imply you were one!

Type R

Don't know

Thats all right then

JDMCTR

Not trying to stir the EP3 owners are we

[Edited by JDMCTR - 12/18/2002 3:40:23 PM]

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Ive had some muppet try to "outpace" me from 70mph, he had a 1.8 vtec, me, the scoob, i opened the car up in 5th! and left him he needed to down it a couple of gears and still couldnt keep up
Gutless comes to mind (the engine, naff all torque)

Tony