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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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i have fitted 2 flamer kits in last few weeks, one to my MY95 wrx with full de-cat and a VTA and i get flames at almost every gear change(some go as high as the spoiler on over run).

also fitted one to a MY99 uk turbo with full de-cat and VTA and that gets no flames!

anyone any idea why???

both kits are fitted properly.

the only thing i can think of that is i use NF octane booster.

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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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Got my kit thru this morning

Stoopid question tho, where did you guys fit the spark plug, before the bb or in the tailpipe itself? I've got a Hiper if that helpeth

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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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I think that the kit reccomends that you put the plug in the tailpipe as close to the back box as possible.

I have made up my own kit and have put two plugs in the tail pipe. I also found that having the plug gap set as wide as you can gets better results. With one plug turned on you get some pretty consistent large flames but with two on you need to have the fire brigade folowing you( thats when their not on strike!)
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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Yeah thats the problem, I reckon it would look odd having a spark plug stuck in the tail-pipe of a big bore exhaust like a Hiper or Nur Spec.

Can you mount it before the BB or would that screw up the system / exhaust / both?

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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Well I got mine in the post today, well done SCC Performance.
Its a very straight forward install, exactly as described in earlier posts......
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Edited to say a BIG thanks to Mikey too

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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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Not quite sure what angle your exhaust comes out but on my exhaust i have put the plug in the top of the tailpipe, from behind you can hardly even see it, its only if you get on your hands and knees that you can. The further down the exhaust system you put the plug, the smaller the flame will be

For example when/if you curently get small flashes that is because some of the fuel has ignited in the downpipe due to heat and has had to travel the entire length of the exhaust,

I think the blitz is a straight through system so you could try putting the plug the input side of the back box as opposed the tailpipe.
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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James,

Exactly what I was thinking, the Hiper has a 4 or 4.5" in tailpipe if mem serves me right, put a spark plug in there and the whole world and his mother will see it

Not willing to drill a hole in a hiper to fit a kit that anybody can see.
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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is the hiper kit straight a straight through design??
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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For those of you who've come to this a little late, like me, it's still possible to get one.

I spoke to Richard at SSC this afternoon (mentioned Scoobynet groupbuy) and he infomed me that it's still possible to get them for £80 each. Sadly I didn't think to ask if that would stand for everyone else but I can't imagine why not...

For more info. look here http://www.sccperformance.com/ or give them a call.

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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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Everybody’s talking about where to stick it or will it work or not but am I the 1st one to get a producer for "HUGE flames which we could see for a mile" policeman’s comment...

Well this time it was just a producer, but is it illegal to have the flamer? I'm not asking whether it's legal but is it illegal to have one as the nice man in uniform couldn't get me for racing the car which I was just following turned it all on the flamer but wasn't sure at all in his voice as they normally are when telling you that you were speeding.

So is it illegal or not?
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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Its illegal for road use. You can have one on your scooby but your only meant to use it off road or on track days
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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It's a deliciously GREY area Rob as money has said, it's not illegal to have one fitted to the car, it's just frowned upon using it on the road. Funny how the copper said bugger all about a full decat Oh sorry..another grey area

Incidentally, did you have your kit fitted?

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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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lol
yes i did and thats why i got pulled over, they were hiding behind a bridge so we didn't see them and at 2am the visibility of big yellow falmes is great

well did produced the producer today so all clean again ....

lets flame some .... hmmmm what ever
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 05:05 PM
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Come on boys, you are all talk. Get your flame pics up on scoobynet.
Anyone damaged any paintwork yet?
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Hello all.

I've spoken to a couple of scoobynet users in the past couple of days, who both expressed interest in the kit, but were afraid they'd missed the group buy price.

Just to let you know, we're able to extend the group buy to scoobynet users until the end of the first week in January (to allow for xmas spending, and NYE drinking!)

If anybody wants a kit, then register your interest here, and mail me at richard@sccperformance.com.

Any other enquiries or anything you wish to know, then I'm on 01727 867 747 anytime between 8.30 a.m. and 5.30 p.m. Mon-Fri

As for the legal issue, it would appear to be a VERY VERY grey area. The same legal topic would cover the use of Nitrous on the road, and whilst fitted, there's nothing to prove you were actually using it. Some of the big bhp cossies flame anyway when the run massively rich........

A word of warning - DO NOT fit the kit into or before the backbox. The kit fits into the tailpipe as per the instructions.

Richard (SCC Performance)

[Edited by RichardPON - 12/12/2002 9:59:26 PM]
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 04:06 AM
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hey Richard

thanks for the feedback...

and officialy thank you for the fitting SCC have done for me as every single time I see the yellowish light behind me just puts a grin on my face
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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Guys, have been reading what has been said about the flamer kits, but am a bit apprehensive- about setting my *** on fire!!!!
Doesn't it singe and wreck the paintwork on your rear bumper??? I only ask because although i've got a performance exhaust, it sits in line, or even a little deeper than the bumper above it. Heat rises, as do flames..... voila! the perfect flambe' d rear end.

Anyone accidentally lit up like this or does it not cause a problem? one other question - how heavy/ large is the kit, ie the coil?

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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 02:15 AM
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well as you drive the flame is draged with the "wind" so it goes behind and not up, but you can always put the "metalic" plaster on to protect the bumper

it fits in the spare wheel bay next to the wheel which stays inside (caoil with a small box), sorry but have no idea about the weight.

hope this helps
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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How do you post up a vid as i have taken some on my digi camera.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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If you want to e-mail the video I can host it and post it on the BBS for you.

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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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I want a flamer kit!!!

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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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HOW DID YOU MAKE YOUR OWN KIT? DID YOU USE A STANDARD COIL AND SPARK PLUG? WHAT GAP DO YOU USE ON THE SPARK PLUG?

THANKS
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Come on boys, you are all talk. Get your flame pics up on scoobynet
It's not a scooby, but here's my car......











[Edited by RichardPON - 12/16/2002 11:15:52 PM]
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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Yeah i used a coil from a Nova, I found a ignition live in the car and tapped into it . Ran it through a switch, through an inline fuse and bolted it into the spare wheel well. Took a earth off the coil and atatched this onto the bolt that holds the boot lock mechanism.

Then used a long coil lead and ran it through the grommet in the boot.

Removed back box from car and drilled a hole slightly smaller than the plug,then tapped a thread in and screwed in the plug and connected the coil lead on.

Hey presto, flames for very little.

I have changed my system now and am using a professional mbile coil pack. The inlaw owns his own garage and has this black box that enables cars to run without an ignition module but puts out a serious amount of voltage meaning i can have a very large gap.

Am going to do a few runs tonight and will post my videos/pics later on tonight

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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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Let's see these vids then

I can't believe how many hits this thread has had
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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thanks STI4, i was thinking along those lines myself. lets see some pictures please.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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The spark

Alittle one to start with


Getting there


Mental

Nearly got burnt by this one and i am not joking !

The picture were taken tonight on a frosted wooden bridge in lincolnshire and this is what it looked like after

I have some high res pics if anyone wants them

Videos to come very soon



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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 01:07 AM
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And here is the video!

Click Here for Video

The Video is 150kb in size, and plays in Windows Media Player. Right Click and choose Save Target As.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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Got one fitted to the Evo.

Made by Mr. 323GTR from here. Total cost (including coil from old Fiesta): £30.

Works a treat.

Richard, just out of interest, do you have any tips for people when they start to try drilling through stainless tailpipes.

Good luck is the first thing I'd say but be warned that you normally need special drill bits if you're going to drill through a HKS Hiper or any other stainless tailpipe. Your standard drill bits will just blunt too quickly.

Another thing Richard,
I notice that you mention not to put it before or inside the backbox. Have you had people who have blown their bb's apart from this?

Andy
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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