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Old 19 July 2002, 11:41 PM
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Bang goes my holiday money My Sti was new 1st April and I managed to get my PPP ordered (by dealer) on first service 3rd week of april so should be cooked by now

Dave T-S,

Did you say PPP comes with ***** extension great I hope it doubles it I could do with 3" LOL

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whoooops forgot to say Tesco's insurance said between 73 and 125 pounds increase in premium if under 20% increase of power. As the were uncertain of components Etc. of PPP yet

Nobody bought a UKSTi7 because of it's standard performance. I like many imagined the performance with PPP. And a great car would become a fantastic car or did I just want PPP for better fuel economy LOL
Old 20 July 2002, 08:20 AM
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Old 20 July 2002, 05:47 PM
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rang 3 dealers today and they've all had the e-mail, but seem to be saying mid august dealer fit!
Old 20 July 2002, 07:12 PM
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Dave,
Hope you get yours sone sorry about my sense humour it's being a country boy (whoooooops Old boy)

Phil thanks for the E-mail

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Old 20 July 2002, 09:06 PM
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No probs - fairly apparent by now my sense of humour is warped too...
Old 21 July 2002, 05:05 PM
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Paid my dealer £2000 or there abouts ordered on friday, will be here sometime in August, included fitting. i asked about there being a long wait as so many will be wanted by all us wannabe Makkinens, and he said as far as he understood it, one of the reasons for the delay in releasing the PPP was because prodrive were wanting to get in as many parts aspossibly so they could supply as many as possible, and they must know roughly how STI7 have been sold. Souinds like a fair point. Also he had no figures of torque or bhp, butt like most said he thinks it`ll be 300bhp. That doesnt matter to me just as long as it picks up quicker than it does at the moment.
Old 21 July 2002, 05:07 PM
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sorry for all the spelling errors was a very long night!
Old 21 July 2002, 09:03 PM
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VFM is in the eye of the beholder. If it goes like the development car, then IMHO its good value. If you're a tecchie, doubtless you can do better for less money and no warranty.... but being a tecchie, doing it'll be part of the fun

mccltd - My Insurance expected to be +12.5% and, yes, You've spoken to Tony too, clearly!!

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Old 22 July 2002, 12:30 AM
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303 bhp clamed in jap performance mag makes the car a resonable replacement for my sti type r in the future. the shape has still got to grow on me a bit though
Old 22 July 2002, 01:07 AM
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Power Engineering tested an STI7 with PPP on friday.......
Must say good results!! better than i thought he would get...
Rob
The owner hovers this board, i will leave it for him to post figures......
Also, i know that PPP has not been released for joe public but sometimes circumstances cannot be posted, this was a genuine PPP car...
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If PPP is as good as Mike Woods there is 3 STi7 owners thinking about changing to a EVO 7 stage 11 who may secome to PPP.

Edited because it looked good last night while under the influence this morning sober read it and it was Total B*ll**k Whoops


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Old 22 July 2002, 12:39 PM
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When you sell the car with a PPP pack on it, does it get taken into account on the value by the dealer?

Also what is the difference between the Prodrive pack and what Litchfield were doing on their imports as I cannot find their specs anymore?
Old 22 July 2002, 01:20 PM
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PPP always *should* be taken into account by a dealer (assuming some of them even know what it is ).

Difference between PPP and Litchfield performance bits are that PPP is authorised by IM
Old 22 July 2002, 01:50 PM
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Dave,

A rumour trail Email recieved the weekend said dealers should have, or will have by Friday, a PPP kit or kits already on site.(for thier Demo I assume
so maybe a try before you buy

So I rang my dealers( Listers) this morning they said everyone who has ordered or have taken an interest in PPP will be informed officially on Friday and release date is August

Tony

I can smell PPP
Old 22 July 2002, 01:51 PM
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Dave T-S,

.....and in my view the PPP will probably add or not detract from resale value whereas anything else is more likely to soften the value of the car. PPP is just safer and more of a known and quantifiable modification.

Tang
Old 22 July 2002, 02:24 PM
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I phoned my dealer this morning to be told that there was one ordered with my name on it!! I was on holiday last week and he couldn't get hold of me so he just ordered it

Should be delivered mid to late august. I can see me having to take a couple of days off work for its arrival.
Old 22 July 2002, 03:05 PM
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Just ordered mine from my local dealer - due in August (do I go on Holiday first or wait 2 weeks?). Price <£2k including VAT!!!


My car is only 5 days old therefore subject to 4k rev limit until Thursday after next. Really pleased with the feel of the whole machine, much better engineered than my old MY00 turbo. Still learning how to change gear with the 6 speed box - don't always find the correct gear changing down. I have a black non-prodrive number - I must say it looks stunning and I even like the gold wheels with this colour. Also had Toyo's fitted free of charge this weeken by the dealer's tyre agent. Feels much smoother and more like the old fabled SO2's

Old 22 July 2002, 06:33 PM
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There is a Prodrive engineer in South Africa for the launch of the New Forester. He brought a PPP kit with him for our STi's. They have it on the only STi demo in the country. Apparently consists of full turbo back exhaust, ECU, replacement restrictor. Extra 20kw , flatter boost curve from full boost to redline, better throttle response. Unfortunately they will be testing them first here for a month on crap 93RON which is the highest octane fuel in Johannesburg before they release them. In Cape Town we have 97RON but only get what works for the whole country!!! We had to sign an indemnity that if we drove to Johannesburg in our STi's and used there fuel and broke our engines Subaru South Africa wouldn't have to fix our engines!!
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THIS IS NOT FAIR!!! There's no real tuning that can be done to the JDMSTi as no replacement ECU has been perfected yet.I'm going to end up with a car slower than you UK boyz!!!!!
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Old 23 July 2002, 02:50 PM
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Power Engineering tested an STI7 with PPP on friday.......
That's interesting, as NO customer STi7 PPP's have been released yet.......sure it wasn't an ECUtek prototype?
Old 23 July 2002, 03:47 PM
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My dealer said that subaru want a £1000 deposit for the STI PPP, and they dont even seem to be that specific about what it will be, or when available. I do want one ASAP but theres no way im handing over a grand now.
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Dave... it might have been their demo, so that they could quote repeatable torque figures on this one
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They want £1000 deposit against your ECU, which is on an exchange
basis.
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Dude...

But if you dont, you'll be last on the list.....

If you do they'll have your dosh based on a "promise" of an August delivery date.

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I think I will wait, Ive alreay spent a load this week on it. Ive had those horrible gold wheels recoated in anthracite, new springs ( - 35mm ) , and carbon repeaters. For £700 it looks like a new car ( Its a blue prodrive STI UK ) . I will get a photo when I get a chance.
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What a rip off £2k for an extra 20bhp, and not to mention further increases in running costs. by a p1 and save ££££££££££££ after all I havre owned both and i belive the p1 is a better car.
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But they do look a bit dated now dont they
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There was also a report on another post( the one tested at PE ) that the B/Box was of a weird/ strange design

Deposit of a £1K for PPP It's only money, but then you'll only have to part with a £1K next month How much interest on £1K for 1 month 80 pence

You know you want it and the car needs it

All you need to do is find where your wife hides the money she syphons out of the house keeping and bingo it's free LOL

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