And Prodrive layth their hands upon my Scoob
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nathan L:
<B>Can Mike Wood or anyone answer this question please?
Will MY01 WRX's have to be taken to Prodrive by their owners as the price has reduced, or does the £1600 cover transport by the local dealerships ?
To be honest I'd rather take it there myself and enjoy the drive home
Nathan..[/quote]
The £2000 never did include the cost of transportation to Prodrive
<B>Can Mike Wood or anyone answer this question please?
Will MY01 WRX's have to be taken to Prodrive by their owners as the price has reduced, or does the £1600 cover transport by the local dealerships ?
To be honest I'd rather take it there myself and enjoy the drive home
Nathan..[/quote]
The £2000 never did include the cost of transportation to Prodrive
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by STI-Man:
<B>So taking it to Prodrive and getting the performance pack fitted gives it 245 BHP (ish)?
How is that better than the 280 BHP that the P1 chucks out?[/quote]
The drivability of the standard engined car with PPP is superior to the P1.
This fact is widely acknowledged!
<B>So taking it to Prodrive and getting the performance pack fitted gives it 245 BHP (ish)?
How is that better than the 280 BHP that the P1 chucks out?[/quote]
The drivability of the standard engined car with PPP is superior to the P1.
This fact is widely acknowledged!
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Scooby - that's a statement and a half....have you driven both?! 
As I recall the PPP has more torque low down, but by 5k the P1/STi variants are ahead and stay that way.
Re. the exhuast noise; nice, isn't it! Sounds like extreme air-to-air violence. I'd love to know how long the designers had to 'tune' it to get it just so!
Richard (my00 PPP)
As I recall the PPP has more torque low down, but by 5k the P1/STi variants are ahead and stay that way.
Re. the exhuast noise; nice, isn't it! Sounds like extreme air-to-air violence. I'd love to know how long the designers had to 'tune' it to get it just so!
Richard (my00 PPP)
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Scooby:
<B> The drivability of the standard engined car with PPP is superior to the P1.
This fact is widely acknowledged![/quote]
mmmmm.... I had a 'modded' MY99 PPP (downpipe, straight through centre, induction kit, SS BB, intercooler 'splitter') and drove it back to back with a P1. The 'drivability' advantage sub-5000 rpm was definitly in my car's advantage, 3rd gear 'grunt' acceleration made the dealer who's P1 it was swear many time
, but once the P1 is at c5500rpm it had the advantage over the PPP.
All in all mine was faster, just, but also had 40/50hp up on the standard PPP! But the 'low-mid-range' advantage of the PPP is nulified by the 'high-mid-range' and rev-hungry nature of the P1.
Also drove a STi4 with similar mods to mine (330hp) that was similarly rev hungry, but felt a lot faster
<B> The drivability of the standard engined car with PPP is superior to the P1.
This fact is widely acknowledged![/quote]
mmmmm.... I had a 'modded' MY99 PPP (downpipe, straight through centre, induction kit, SS BB, intercooler 'splitter') and drove it back to back with a P1. The 'drivability' advantage sub-5000 rpm was definitly in my car's advantage, 3rd gear 'grunt' acceleration made the dealer who's P1 it was swear many time
, but once the P1 is at c5500rpm it had the advantage over the PPP.All in all mine was faster, just, but also had 40/50hp up on the standard PPP! But the 'low-mid-range' advantage of the PPP is nulified by the 'high-mid-range' and rev-hungry nature of the P1.
Also drove a STi4 with similar mods to mine (330hp) that was similarly rev hungry, but felt a lot faster
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The operative word here gentlemen is "drivability".
Sub 5000RPM being where the majority of owners operate their machines for the majority of the time.
If it were pure ***** out high revving stuff, then I would probably favour another marque entirely.
Sub 5000RPM being where the majority of owners operate their machines for the majority of the time.
If it were pure ***** out high revving stuff, then I would probably favour another marque entirely.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Scooby:
<B>The operative word here gentlemen is "drivability".
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Completely agree with you - thats what prodrive do best -improve the drivability with bags more torque.
Just look at the low rev figures - wicked stuff. I commute in my car - that grunt equals fantastic overtaking ability - thats what im after - not a high reving car. Ill settle for second to the STI and P1 people when i do the odd track day.
According to Pete Croney, the old PPP responded well to a new downpipe - so it should be interesting to see what a combination of both will do.
I just spoke to my insurance company - and they wont insure a PPP!!!! Any one recommend a PPP freindly insurer?
Jza
<B>The operative word here gentlemen is "drivability".
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Completely agree with you - thats what prodrive do best -improve the drivability with bags more torque.
Just look at the low rev figures - wicked stuff. I commute in my car - that grunt equals fantastic overtaking ability - thats what im after - not a high reving car. Ill settle for second to the STI and P1 people when i do the odd track day.
According to Pete Croney, the old PPP responded well to a new downpipe - so it should be interesting to see what a combination of both will do.
I just spoke to my insurance company - and they wont insure a PPP!!!! Any one recommend a PPP freindly insurer?
Jza
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Hi JZA
I got mine through A-Plan (01494 677776).
They got me a quote so competitive that when I was ringing around other insurers some of them refused to even look up how much they could do me for!!!!
PS: I had mine fitted also as part of GregHs deal - and it really is as fantastic as everyone says! I can only describe it as feeling as I did when I got my first scoob! All of a sudden I keep going out for drives again - especially when theres no need ;-) And the noise is fantastic!
I'va already emailed him but thanks again to Greg for organising it!
Nick
I got mine through A-Plan (01494 677776).
They got me a quote so competitive that when I was ringing around other insurers some of them refused to even look up how much they could do me for!!!!
PS: I had mine fitted also as part of GregHs deal - and it really is as fantastic as everyone says! I can only describe it as feeling as I did when I got my first scoob! All of a sudden I keep going out for drives again - especially when theres no need ;-) And the noise is fantastic!
I'va already emailed him but thanks again to Greg for organising it!
Nick
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I have had a MY99 PPP with a falkland d/p and ITG filter on my car for over a year and can say there is not much out there that can humble my car.....also out of personnal experience, against a well run in P1 with a upgraded back box...there was not much in it on accelaration and right to the top end....in fact my car always had a very slight edge....even at the top end.....
The only problem with this car is what can i possibly get next.........
Bash
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The only problem with this car is what can i possibly get next.........
Bash
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Damn !!! Now you've done it again !!! I'm gonna have to stop visiting this site, or I'm gonna be broke pretty soon.
Have had my Scooby for 3 weeks, and feel that I will get the PPP inspalled in it ...
But I have a question though... How hard is it to install ? I'm asking because the official importer in Portugal doesn't have the most competent mechanics I know of, and I am scared of portuguese amateurship taking over.
So, how hard is it to put in ? Is it a process of take one out, put one back in (Like a Lego), or are there more complicated things to do ?
By the way, where can I get a list of what mods are done when installing a PPP ?
Thanks guys, and keep having fun ! Love the spirit of this site !
Have had my Scooby for 3 weeks, and feel that I will get the PPP inspalled in it ...
But I have a question though... How hard is it to install ? I'm asking because the official importer in Portugal doesn't have the most competent mechanics I know of, and I am scared of portuguese amateurship taking over.
So, how hard is it to put in ? Is it a process of take one out, put one back in (Like a Lego), or are there more complicated things to do ?
By the way, where can I get a list of what mods are done when installing a PPP ?
Thanks guys, and keep having fun ! Love the spirit of this site !
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Just to say that I am also delighted with the results of having the PPP on my car. (98 MY Wagon) Since having it fitted I have also noted a much better spread of torque and the fact the car now pulls all the way up to the red line. I also think the engine is smoother - this was also noticed by a regular passenger in my car and as Greg has already mentioned the car starts more easily and my car now starts after a stall. Very glad I have had this fitted.
I would firstly like to thank Greg for organising the group buy and secondly to Mike Wood and others at Prodrive who looked after me while I was there.
Regards
Robin
I would firstly like to thank Greg for organising the group buy and secondly to Mike Wood and others at Prodrive who looked after me while I was there.
Regards
Robin
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