I think you’ll find the amount of USA in Ukraine is the issue here

 

Ukraine as a sovereign democracy is free to to decide how it cooperates with other countries and choose its own path - you and the Russians may not like it, but its the choice that Ukraine was free to make for better or worse!

Russian invaded and illegally seized Ukrainian territory. There is absolutely NO justification for that!

 

How much choice as citizens do we get on nato membership

 

Who cares?

 

clearly you

 

If we had the choice, we would choose to be in NATO.

 

Thats you and the missus ?


its now a commercial tool to counteract china and russia

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...e-21st-century

 

“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” --William Casey, former director of the CIA

 

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director

 

That's not really a very good argument. We don't get choices on many policy decisions, that's why we elect our government to make them for us. You know, like the government that wanted wanted to stay in the EU because they knew it was good for us, but a minority of people managed to persuade the public it wasn't. This is why we don't ask the general population questions very often, they are mostly gullible.

You could argue that NATO membership was not directly put to the public like the EU ref, but their opinion was sought, and it was overwhelming in support. I imagine there are few now who would think it was a bad idea to be in NATO.

 

 

So essentially the people Niger and neighbouring countries have wised up to the western lure of investment ( which never actually happens ) in exchange for a plundering of their rescources .
it took Wagner to get rid of them

 

Nato all out for killing as many civilians as possible in the war with Russia

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-conscription

 

What's NATO got to do with it? Its Russia that invaded and its Russia that is killing Ukrainians!

 

So where do you suppose all the money/ weaponry is coming from !

 

Various western governments are supporting Ukraine some of which are NATO member, but NATO itself as an organisation, owns no military hardware, has no money/budget to purchase military hardware, and has no ability to supply military hardware or finance Ukraine or anyone else.

NATO as an organisation is nothing more than a committee to coordinate joint military operations and strategy, and share a limited amount of military intelligence between the members governments.

If you actually understood anything about NATO as an organisation you might actually realise how much of the conspiracy cr@p you're consuming on YouTube and Facebook, and further blurting out here, is totally false and just makes you look like an idiot!

 

Nato / US/ UK ( Boris ) has INSTRUCTED Zelensky that there must be no kind of compromise on anything whatsoever


maybe you missed this ?

 

Oh dear looks like Prigozhin’s been offed. I think we all seen that coming.

 

Hmm, his aeroplane accidentally dropped out of the sky. Quite elaborate really, theses people normally just accidentally fall out of a window! No doubt in IDHAS mind, NATO / US / UK ( Boris) will have been responsible for this!

The big question is, was he actually on the plane, or was it just a diversion and he has now fled Russia via another route? He does have form for diversion flights!

 

Yes that maybe the case, as some reports are suggesting he is not amongst the bodies and was not on this plane but was on a second plane.

 

Planes generally don't fly very well after being hit by 2 air-defence missiles.... lol - eye-witness reports saw 2 missile vapour trails from the ground.
Fairly blatant 'state sponsored assasination' by IDHAS's bezzie mate.

 

Easily replaced, I suspect

 

For sure he will have anticipated this. I just wonder if he has left orders to his forces in the event of his death. Could well see another uprising from the Wagner group against the state.

 

This could also have consequences for Russin influence in Africa which up to now has largely been done via the Wagner group. Will be interesting to see if Putin can gain control of the group, if the group will retaliate or simply collapse.

 

Like we all knew anyway . Well maybe not the gullible ones here . Along with huge increase in US market share supplying us .



https://www.globalwitness.org/en/cam...hs%20of%202023.


of course all a total coincidence lol

 

I had money on Prigozhin 'accidentally' falling from a great height.

Usually its balconies/windows, didn't expect his plane to fall out of the sky.

Assuming he hasn't faked his death; doubt there's much left to identify him.

 

The DNA test results confirm all people on the passenger list were indeed on the plane and have been killed! At least according to the Russian investigation which of course can been completely relied upon!

 

So are you saying Russia might be telling porkies then?

 

I'm not ruling out that possibility

 

Still unwilling to counter the possibility zelensky is sacrificing Ukrainians on an epic scale in order to please the yanks though