“That” war is still going on btw

But of course it’s all a bit boring for you now

you’ve got a new villain concentrate on , in the 20 second interludes given over by endless Royal coverage

 

For real? After spending the last 30+ pages of this thread telling us you know exactly who and what is behind this conflict, you're now telling us you had no idea at all, all along?

You might have saved us all a very large amount of tedium and irritation if you'd said so from the start!

 

, I have said exactly this all along

but im glad you've have finally acknowledged it too

 

I've acknowledged no such thing. The rest of us (outside of planet wibble) aren't in too much doubt about who's behind this conflict.

 

Believe me they are depending on your ignorance

 

If you feel so strongly you should go out there and fight for the russians or who ever ! And stop posting crap behind your key board .
But sadly you wont because your a coward hiding behind your said keyboard .
Its my feeling that your bringing the whole forum down is that what you want ?

 

I do not mind being labelled a coward if it opens peoples eyes to the truth


Check out this list , its just mad isn't it ???


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._regime_change

 

Every single country will use every single opportunity to increase their sphere of influence! There is nothing new there and they would be stupid not to!

If you spent a little less time focusing on the nasty USA and NATO and a little more time looking at what Russia, China and countries on the other side also get up to, you arguments may be a little more balanced and we might stop thinking you're a crazy conspiracy nut and might start taking your posts seriously!

 

Every single country will use every single opportunity to increase their sphere of influence! There is nothing new there and they would be stupid not to!

​​​​​ I simply do not believe this to be the case

and I do believe that Nato original aim has been completely sidelined ( and we are being duped ) , it is now an attacking force not a defensive force


( in aid of preventing US financial collapse )

 

And you think we are the ones living in denial and unable to see the "real" truth!

Take your blinkers off! Every country is looking after its own interests - always!

...or at least the interests of those who run the country when not the interests of the country as a whole (e.g. Brexit)

 

So how many African/ hundred other peaceful countries are trying to tell you what to do / how to behave / who the enemy is

or are they they just not rich enough to count ?

I'm sure you are actually referring to Russia and China , and the built up perception that they want your blood

 

Would have been good day to invade uk yesterday. Think the whole of our army, navy and airforce were in London.

But it was cracking to see👍

sorry, off topic

 

Nail on head! If they are not rich/powerful enough then they have little influence, but they are all still striving to get richer and increase their influence! That's why they set up alliances such as the AfCFTA to help boost trade etc.

Of course Russia and China are up with the big boys and are able to assert far more influence on a level to rival the US. Just look at Chinas activities on the African continent! Russia more or less controls Belarus, has huge influences in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc. Is very pally with Turkey (a NATO member!). Russia has also been playing a much bigger role in the Syrian conflict than the US/NATO. They've also been active in Afghanistan. Oh, and up to 2014, they also had a puppet running Ukraine!

Yes, of course the US and NATO countries are supporting Ukraine, selling weapons and trying to assert their influence - although actually they are mostly giving them away! I'm not naive to western interference, but unlike you, I'm not naive to the Eastern interference either!

 

All those countries are on Russian borders , not half way across the world

Ukraines legitimately elected prime minister was ousted by a US backed coup d Etat

as has happen in countless countries around the globe , tacking advantage of corrupt situation and making it worse for all

China is building infrastructure in Africa with such risky repayment terms that they may as well be free - In exchange for free entry of Affordable goods

They are building processing plants ,in Africa,so as to sell on international markets

in contrast to the west which simply wants to steal resources

thankfully Zimbabwe has switched to a backed currency , gold, so will no longer be at the mercy of US dollar

 

US now has the highest income inequality


https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-inequality-debate


next to UK

 

IMF loans - always a tool to subjugate

https://mronline.org/2022/07/22/how-...ymyr-zelensky/

 

Amazing , the west insisted via zelensky , no Russians in Donbas permitted ( ethnic cleansing ) with lots of deaths

now Russia is holding similar referendum in these areas

and the west ( usa ) are telling them to **** off once again

 

Russia has also been playing a much bigger role in the Syrian conflict than the US/NATO.


yeah right .. corse it has


Just type in 'USA Stealing Syrian oil " see what you get

this is google btw - completely censored content !

 

There goes your money straight into hands military industrial complex weapons to be traded on the black market with every group thugs available in Ukraine

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...e-25059884.amp


what had it got to do with us ?!

 

Hi all, I am a new member of this forum

 

I take it you never heard about the Cuban missile crisis then? And you never heard about Russian interference in the US to get trump elected? Or Russian interference in the Brexit vote? How naive are you to think that Russia hasn't been meddling all over the world?

Seriously? I assume you're referring to the ousting of Victor Yanukovych who was very much a Putin puppet and corrupt beyond belief! I guess you forgot about that elaborate Presidential Palace that he built, complete with pirate ship on the lake!

So I guess you missed the whole bit about China securing water supply rights in many African countries as security on those risky loans then!
Yeah, China is just acting on pure good will, investing billions in risky African countries and wants nothing in return!

 

Do you not realise Cuba was a long time ago now , I personally cannot imagine
russia being allowed anywhere near these days

It doesn’t matter who is in power USA - they are all subservient to military industrial complex

Iv not heard Chinese diverting water for themselves, like the Israelis do , you’ll need come up with a source. There are US companies that steal mineral water stopping locals getting any


the Chinese need a market in Africa with little restriction

of course they are not doing it for free

 

zelensky is even doing video conferencing with US companies - telling them they can have any part of the economy

( they all ready have control 90 % of the wheat harvest )

 

I have a much better idea. How about you go back through the dozens if not hundreds of unsubstantiated claims and comments you've made since this thread started, and provide a source for those?!

 

Oh dear , sounds like you’re starting to feel the heat !

 

Staggering how blinkered people are , but this is what you get if you just sit there and watch the news

 

gosh channel 4 has a real person to commentate



Otherwise business as usual , the common man getting fcuked on as a result US absurd sanctions

and your leaders hemorrhaging cash to military mafia

 

Biden of course gives zero ***** cos hes not first in the firing line , we are

 

Yep, it really is staggering how blinkered YOU are! But this is what you get if you just sit there and get your news from social media!

 

Will you be saying this when and if Putin gets nuclear is the question here

hes almost exhausted all other avenues imvites to come round the table

its not what US wants so it aint going to happen , apparently