What you clearly fail to see in your conspiracy based analysis is that everything you accuse America and the West of being guilty of, Russia and China do on an equal level - they are all trying to increase their sphere of influence through whatever underhand tactic they see fit! Russia has been meddling in Ukrainian politics since the fall of the USSR, but never managed to get a tight enough grip on it as they do with Belarus. How much the West was involved in the 2014 Maidan revolution is not really relevant, there was clearly enough desire throughout Ukraine to push for independence from Russia that such a huge number of people stood against the government and forced political change peacefully without having to take arms against the government - that doesn't happen without the will of the majority! Since then, the annexation of Crimea and the Donbas regions and now the war, have all been about Putin trying to regain his previous proxy control of the region.

Pehaps while you're so busy climbing down the rabbit hole of anti-west conspiracies, you forgot about the fact that your beloved Russia shot down flight MH17 over Ukraine! How would you justify your bizarre theories to the families of the passengers on that flight who were murdered by the Russian state? or what about the family of Dawn Sturgess who died from Novichok nerve agent after finding and using the perfume veil used in the Salisbury poisonings?

Sure, the West may not be squeaky clean, but they are no worse than Russia! You should remember that and perhaps invest as much time looking at some of the stuff that Russia gets up to as you spend researching the evil west!

 

5 minutes research will tell you the US HAS to produce weaponry on a large and ongoing level and that NATO is not a defensive organisation

 

It’s all ready been stated the aim isn’t to drive Russia out of Ukraine

it’s to drive Russia out of existence , since it challenges US world market domination

 

Every hole is a goal mate

 

Really? Who by, where, when? What exactly did that person(s) say?

 

dont 😅

 

 

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This was right there on everyday news. ! ....


as say people are comatose , it just all washes over them

while they sit there stupefied by glossy 10 minute footage of one or two families stories

 

Stop expecting everybody else to do your dirty work for you. If you're so convinced "drive Russia out of existence" was all over the news, you should have no trouble finding a couple of stories stating that. So off you go, find us some, if you can.

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=394779472540554

you keep lapping it up

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...austin-ukraine

 

This was also on British Bull**** Cooperation , all over it when US delegates went to Ukraine a few weeks ago !


nobody in the world does disinformation and bankrolls it like US/UK/Isreal

 

What other conflict EVER have leaders from west met up in the capital of a country at war



you carry on lapping up the rhetoric that the whole world is now against the evil Russians

( while the vast majority isn't or isn't interested )

 

Mind you stick your hand in your pocket to donate to the US senators 40bn dollar military mafia arms splurge earnings while your at it


and hoist that damn great Ukrainian flag bottom the garden , show your 'solidarity'

 

Not seeing anything there that comes remotely close to "driving Russia out of existence". Have you given up already?


Oh, and btw:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61484222

Are you telling us NATO, the "US arms industry", or the Western media paid that retired colonel off, to say what he did?

 

So, you think the Russian arms industry doesn't want to sell weapons to anyone who will buy them and isn't fully supported by the Russian state?

If NATO is not a defence organisation, then how many wars have they started? To my knowledge, they have only "gone in" in the Bosnia/Serbia war which was already ongoing between the ex-Yugoslavian states and in Kuwait which had been invaded by Saddam/Iraq. In either case, not started by NATO. Other NATO actions have been either triggered by article 5 of the NATO treaty such as the response to 9/11 attacks or on request of the UN as a peach keeping force following conflict resolution.

 

Somalia Libya Afghanistan ??

peacekeeping my ****

 

Afghanistan was in accordance to Article 5 "An attack on one nation is an attack on all nations" in response to the 9/11 attacks on America!

 

and of course they've nothing to do with the 'peacekeeping' in Yemen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...meni_Civil_War

 

Theres actually only 3 countries in the world NATO ( US) has NOT invaded or had a military presence within

 

Pakistan and Ukraine since then ....!

 

Just imagine how many less terrorists there would be in the world if that 'peacekeeping' just hadn't happened

 

Still no answer, to your unfounded "drive Russia out of existence"?

What a surprise.

 

Erm, the US is NOT the same as NATO.

 

Also, on that list, some countries appear more than once and there are significantly more countries in the world than on that list, so there are way more that 3 countries! FFS, there are more than 3 countries in the British isles and the US has not invaded any of them!

 

I'm guessing you didn't bother googling how many wars Russia has been involved in? Perhaps you should before you repost your Russian propaganda!

 

US is at the top of NATO

 

Propaganda ?

havnt even mentioned Russia , just pulled off the web - anybody can find it lol

 

They’re on there twice cos they’ve come back to have another go !

 

It’s Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein btw