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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
I thought the general idea of a debate was to try and convince people of your point of view, not make yourself look 100 times less credible than you did before
Don't be daft , its all about debate - none of us have the answers

other than categorically for certain the military industrial complex and mafia therein will be pushing for as much polarisation and mayhem as possible on all sides in oder to line their own pockets
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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 06:56 PM
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and it certainly is scary that we have been sucked into this **** , just about every other country bullied blooded bribed and bowed to yankee oppression has had to give in

but Russia , OMG - its just not going to happen like that
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 03:28 AM
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So I’m not mad at all , someone else thinks same


https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...ervative-power
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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I see we are sending 8000 troops and a load of tanks on ‘exercises’ as are a load of other European countries
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https://archive.globalpolicy.org/nat...2003/03oil.htm

US cannot survive massive inflation as a result of less than 4 times as many dollars spent abroad than at home


pootin attempting to sell oil in local currency is all too much

I can't see them offing pootin like they did gadaffi or Saddam

without us getting blown to pieces

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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Liz truss should be trussed up for suggesting doubling down on supplying weapons to all x soviet countries , no two ways

there really is no end of evil here
Are you a Russian shill or an appeaser? Asking for a friend.

Sending more help is dangerous and could protract and or escalate the war, but I'm not clear what you are suggesting is the best way forward?
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Western countries are mostly democracies of sorts, where Russis is an autocratic regime that imprisons those who dare to show decent and allows power to be centralised in one person with no checks and balances.

That is why they are not afforded equivalency in my view.
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Im sure Marks got it all under control
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Western countries are mostly democracies of sorts, where Russis is an autocratic regime that imprisons those who dare to show decent and allows power to be centralised in one person with no checks and balances.

That is why they are not afforded equivalency in my view.
dissent , presumably

China seems to be doing very well , with an autocratic leader in control

besides which we are living under the aspiration of democracy , but decisions are taken above us by zionist elite that own and control everything

The US has more people in prison than anywhere else , including Guantanamo

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Originally Posted by matt-c
Are you a Russian shill or an appeaser? Asking for a friend.

Sending more help is dangerous and could protract and or escalate the war, but I'm not clear what you are suggesting is the best way forward?
the best way fwd would have been for the country to stay neutral

US was never going to allow this to happen
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
dissent , presumably

China seems to be doing very well , with an autocratic leader in control

besides which we are living under the aspiration of democracy , but decisions are taken above us by zionist elite that own and control everything

The US has more people in prison than anywhere else , including Guantanamo

Dissent yes, brain fade moment.

Define doing well? It's citizens are not doing well in concentration camps and whole cities closed for 1 case of covid.
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
the best way fwd would have been for the country to stay neutral

US was never going to allow this to happen
Which country?
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
but decisions are taken above us by zionist elite that own and control everything
This is something you believe without evidence, so can be ignored in the context of any debate.
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
the best way fwd would have been for the country to stay neutral

US was never going to allow this to happen
Neutrality - aka appeasement is a failed strategy. If you give them an inch they will take a mile.

Perfectly illustrated by the result of the wests meek response to the annexation of Crimea.
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Western countries are mostly democracies of sorts, where Russis is an autocratic regime that imprisons those who dare to show decent and allows power to be centralised in one person with no checks and balances.

That is why they are not afforded equivalency in my view.

So this does sound to me like you've decided its time to remove pootin ? attack Russia


so nothing to do with protecting Ukraine
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Neutrality - aka appeasement is a failed strategy. If you give them an inch they will take a mile.

Perfectly illustrated by the result of the wests meek response to the annexation of Crimea.

So what do you suppose is going to happen now as a result of a strong front


presumably some kind of Mexican standoff

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Lets just prey this is actually what happens
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So this does sound to me like you've decided its time to remove pootin ? attack Russia
so nothing to do with protecting Ukraine
I haven't decided anything, not in a position to decide anything. Attacking Russia sounds like a terrible idea.
Do I wish he was not there directing death to Ukranians and risking global peace, of course, although it's not guranteed a sucessor would be better.
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So what do you suppose is going to happen now as a result of a strong front


presumably some kind of Mexican standoff
I think the war will continue for now, unfortunately we need to find a way to allow VP out of this without losing face in order to end the needless bloodshed.

VP goes on about Russian security, yet he has nukes that in theory gurantee Russian security. It just shows, everyone knows they cannot be used.

Real reason for the war is presumably the incredible richness in natural resources that there is in that land, plus a bit of punishment for cozying up to the west.
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by matt-c
I think the war will continue for now, unfortunately we need to find a way to allow VP out of this without losing face in order to end the needless bloodshed.

VP goes on about Russian security, yet he has nukes that in theory gurantee Russian security. It just shows, everyone knows they cannot be used.

Real reason for the war is presumably the incredible richness in natural resources that there is in that land, plus a bit of punishment for cozying up to the west.

The real reason for it is because of the mahooooosive gas fields in East Ukraine that once operational would be in direct competition to the Russian monopoly on supplying gas to Europe.
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From what I can source Ukraine has a potential 1% of world gas ???

quite a bit smaller than Russia



its not quite like US going into Iraq oil

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They have loads of metal deposits and other rare elements.
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They have loads of metal deposits and other rare elements.
They also have huge amounts of scrap Russian steel that is getting bigger everyday
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Originally Posted by matt-c
This is something you believe without evidence, so can be ignored in the context of any debate.
You can say the same about virtually everything he ever posts here.
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They also have massive quantities wheat growing potential and good knows what all


but then so does Russia !
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Where else on earth will you find such powerful rabid christian zionist lobby groups , the worst of the lot...

The actual jewish people can't stand them

https://www.vox.com/2014/7/24/5929705/us-israel-friends
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The last post from Fuji was back end February

wtf is going on
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Butt licking is part of diplomacy, they all do it. Nothing new here.
Also something thats not new, is your really tedious and boring and offensive.

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Russia threatening uk strikes

is that old hat as well ?


USA v Russia , which is what this has always been about - with us in the middle will be far from boring and not in a good way

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