Coronavirus Pah!
24 March 2020, 10:52 AM
#242
Some of ours are shutting down...
Problem is I’ve been advised we’re essential operations. In so far as maintaining and repairing private transport (especially given that people should not be using public transport). But no parts = no repairs.
Its a worry as two of the cars needing parts belong to a nurse and a policeman.
As an aside if we do shut down, I’m taking all my tools home; This side of the Midlands has been plagued with organised tool theft gangs, so I’m predicting the news that businesses being shut long term will mean rich and easy pickings. Police were under-resourced before all this to cope with the organised gangs round here, they most certainly will not cope now.
Problem is I’ve been advised we’re essential operations. In so far as maintaining and repairing private transport (especially given that people should not be using public transport). But no parts = no repairs.
Its a worry as two of the cars needing parts belong to a nurse and a policeman.
As an aside if we do shut down, I’m taking all my tools home; This side of the Midlands has been plagued with organised tool theft gangs, so I’m predicting the news that businesses being shut long term will mean rich and easy pickings. Police were under-resourced before all this to cope with the organised gangs round here, they most certainly will not cope now.
24 March 2020, 11:41 AM
#243
I've been working from home for nearly 2 weeks and along with everyone else, the BT exchange has been taking a battering in my area, connections are really slow. The kids are off now taking up more bandwidth with their online home schooling, tik-tok, youtube, Fortnight etc! I use to think working from home would be great, but the slow connection is doing my head in! We have 3 more weeks of this before the Government re-assesses the situation again.
Next door neighbours MOT is due next week and the garage has cancelled his MOT appointment, not sure how the situation stands with this; would he need to SORN the car or will there be some grace period when the situation go back to some sort of normalility. I'm sure many people will be in the same situation up and down the country, especially for those key workers that need to travel. The other worry is with the lock down and all shops closed indefinitely, I wonder if we'll see a rise in looting. Whilst people will stick to the lockdown initially, three weeks is a long time, there will inevitably be creep back into more people disobeying the rules.
Next door neighbours MOT is due next week and the garage has cancelled his MOT appointment, not sure how the situation stands with this; would he need to SORN the car or will there be some grace period when the situation go back to some sort of normalility. I'm sure many people will be in the same situation up and down the country, especially for those key workers that need to travel. The other worry is with the lock down and all shops closed indefinitely, I wonder if we'll see a rise in looting. Whilst people will stick to the lockdown initially, three weeks is a long time, there will inevitably be creep back into more people disobeying the rules.
24 March 2020, 12:19 PM
#246
Boris’s words said exactly this:
“People will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes....,
So unless my employer sends me home, shuts, either by force or their own voluition then I’m in work.
As said the list of Key worker/essential workers on the .gov website are not properly listed it is very vague...but journalists are listed. Ironically a job that can be done at home with ease...Yet last night ITV had Emily Morgan....a Health correspondent of all people was gallivanting around London with her production crew (cameraman, mic operator, lighting etc.
) in close proximity to NHS workers, Politicians, Going into offices, NHS call centres, sitting on park benches and then finishing up in the studio FFS.....every single thing she did could have been done via video calls from her home. What example is that sending? Every thing she did was what we’ve been told not to do but somehow she thinks its ok and is exempt?
I’m amazed twitter didn’t have a frenzy at her and ITV for allowing her...Peston had the right idea...video interview from home. Nearly registered myself to complain about it!
“People will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes....,
- travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.”
So unless my employer sends me home, shuts, either by force or their own voluition then I’m in work.
As said the list of Key worker/essential workers on the .gov website are not properly listed it is very vague...but journalists are listed. Ironically a job that can be done at home with ease...Yet last night ITV had Emily Morgan....a Health correspondent of all people was gallivanting around London with her production crew (cameraman, mic operator, lighting etc.
I’m amazed twitter didn’t have a frenzy at her and ITV for allowing her...Peston had the right idea...video interview from home. Nearly registered myself to complain about it!
Last edited by ALi-B; 24 March 2020 at 12:42 PM.
24 March 2020, 12:33 PM
#247
Nicola Sturgeon: "life should not feel normal", and if it did, you should ask "if you are doing the right things".
I’m a social introvert, so this feel perfectly normal...Months on end without having to mingle with the wider public feels like heaven
Am I doing it wrong then? 🤔
I’m a social introvert, so this feel perfectly normal...Months on end without having to mingle with the wider public feels like heaven
Am I doing it wrong then? 🤔
Last edited by ALi-B; 24 March 2020 at 12:35 PM.
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24 March 2020, 07:47 PM
#249
Today's e conference seemed to be far more positive than yesterday's and previous and they seem to be in control and knowing what is gonna happen.
I may be wrong but have been feeling very negative last few days ,seeing as I'm a self employed carpenter with high London rent etc our work has literally dried up overnight.
I've not really been following the figures for us or spain and Italy.
are they similar in terms of cases and deaths and similar stages?
are we really going to hit the infection and death rates of spain and Italy because going by tonight's conference they seem to be in control.
I may be wrong but have been feeling very negative last few days ,seeing as I'm a self employed carpenter with high London rent etc our work has literally dried up overnight.
I've not really been following the figures for us or spain and Italy.
are they similar in terms of cases and deaths and similar stages?
are we really going to hit the infection and death rates of spain and Italy because going by tonight's conference they seem to be in control.
24 March 2020, 08:59 PM
#251
I've not really been following the figures for us or spain and Italy.
are they similar in terms of cases and deaths and similar stages?
are we really going to hit the infection and death rates of spain and Italy because going by tonight's conference they seem to be in control.
are they similar in terms of cases and deaths and similar stages?
are we really going to hit the infection and death rates of spain and Italy because going by tonight's conference they seem to be in control.
Spanish hospitals are a far cry from ours: Traditionally (due to understaffing), basic nursing tasks and care needs like feeding and washing etc. was done by family members, not nurses. And when the nurses clock off for the night, weekends or national/local holidays there is no cover...family is expected to provide that cover.
Obviously as a result of this care arrangement a lot of people are suffering. And as such survival rates of those without private care cover will be worse than the UK.
Reports of elderly care homes being abandoned by care staff, and the dead left in their beds is a sobering insight of how bad it’s going.
Last edited by ALi-B; 24 March 2020 at 09:02 PM.
25 March 2020, 01:25 AM
#252
And yet we currently have a guest to a holiday cottage that we run who is insisting that we should be open for his holiday this Friday. We are closed, and have offered all our guests a deferment until next year, despite standard t&c's that there are only refunds for cancellations before 10wks. We also strongly recommend travel insurance to all guests. This bellend, despite being warned twice in the last 2 weeks not to come from London, now says he is already in Cornwall, so not a risk, but that his return train ticket is not until 3rd April, and if we don't let him stay we are risking his health by forcing him to return early on public transport ?? He also told us we shouldn't be shut because the government haven't shut holiday lets.
This is with one major hospital in the whole of Cornwall with 15 icu beds, all currently full. We have at risk nieghbours, and I have a broken rib.
I'm not playing a violin for myself as this crisis is going to be catastrophic for so many people, but as self employed we have lost all this years income, and this **** refuses to cancel because he failed to insure himself, and believes he has the right to cross the country on holiday. From his behaviour we also suspect he intends to squat there.
Selfish feckwits like this are why this is going to become far worse than it should be. He's not alone down here.
Apologies for the rant.
Maybe I should let him come; we are surrounded by mine shafts and high cliffs.....just saying.
This is with one major hospital in the whole of Cornwall with 15 icu beds, all currently full. We have at risk nieghbours, and I have a broken rib.
I'm not playing a violin for myself as this crisis is going to be catastrophic for so many people, but as self employed we have lost all this years income, and this **** refuses to cancel because he failed to insure himself, and believes he has the right to cross the country on holiday. From his behaviour we also suspect he intends to squat there.
Selfish feckwits like this are why this is going to become far worse than it should be. He's not alone down here.
Apologies for the rant.
Maybe I should let him come; we are surrounded by mine shafts and high cliffs.....just saying.
25 March 2020, 01:06 PM
#254
Scooby Regular
After reading the entire thread, I happen to agree with you. There is a balance to be struck between maintaining an economy and securing public health. The government will always be criticised by some as they are 'the man' who need to be taken down a peg or two.
My only gripe is that messages from government should be more direct / precise, leaving people with no doubt as to what they should / should not be doing.
My only gripe is that messages from government should be more direct / precise, leaving people with no doubt as to what they should / should not be doing.
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25 March 2020, 03:24 PM
#257
This is a quandary; We’ve failed two cars for major defects, one is a Fiat 500 with lower arms ready to drop off...worn to the point the car changes direction when you accelerate/brake.
Granted it got here under its own steam but should it allowed to carry on full well knowing that it could cause an accident? That’s a worry, even if the owner and driver remains leagally responsible for roadworthyness, this needs hammering home. Garages are still open...if someone need their car and it doesn’t drive/feel/sound right, either do not drive it or get it checked for everyone’s safety. Otherwise it’s postentally an accidentally waiting to happen and less beds in a hospital as a result.
Also when the exemption is lifted we’ll endure a influx of cars with MOTs due in the same month. It’s bad enough as it is in March and August when the new car reg numbers come out.
Last edited by ALi-B; 25 March 2020 at 03:29 PM.
25 March 2020, 03:29 PM
#258
After the pandemic finally diminishes guess who will benefit?
F' ing China !
Small nations will have their economies crippled as we slip into a global recession-These nations will not be able to service their debts to China.
As a result China will insist on "favours" by these unfortunate nations , in the form of relinquishing sovereign territory to China.
Its a tactic China has already employed successfully -Sri Lanka harbour development for example.
So not only is this nation responsible for this pandemic , but it will go on to profit from it and extend its global influence.
The USA economy will be crippled as early infection and death figures are indicating a runaway situation by an unprepared administration
Could the outbreak in Wuhan have been intentional?
F' ing China !
Small nations will have their economies crippled as we slip into a global recession-These nations will not be able to service their debts to China.
As a result China will insist on "favours" by these unfortunate nations , in the form of relinquishing sovereign territory to China.
Its a tactic China has already employed successfully -Sri Lanka harbour development for example.
So not only is this nation responsible for this pandemic , but it will go on to profit from it and extend its global influence.
The USA economy will be crippled as early infection and death figures are indicating a runaway situation by an unprepared administration
Could the outbreak in Wuhan have been intentional?
25 March 2020, 03:52 PM
#259
Could the outbreak in Wuhan have been intentional
The downfall of Western economies and public hysteria has a whiff of the third stage (crisis) of Bezmenov’s ideological subversion.
That, and reports that virus research suggest that the SARS-Cov-2 virus which what causes the disease covid-19 is a hybrid/mutation of two separate viruses. This suggest that it was created in two ways; By an animal already with one virus being simultaneously infected with another...and/or it being created in a lab.
Also note how media and governments downplay that covid-19 is caused by a SARS virus. Why?
25 March 2020, 04:31 PM
#260
Scooby Regular
The Conspiracy Theorist in me, and I'm the most forgiving person on the planet!, does find this a little too coincidental 
"Wuhan Institute of Virology. The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses. The institute is linked to Beijing’s covert bio-weapons program."
Source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...program-possi/
"Wuhan Institute of Virology. The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses. The institute is linked to Beijing’s covert bio-weapons program."
Source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...program-possi/
Last edited by Dr Hu; 25 March 2020 at 04:33 PM.
25 March 2020, 05:42 PM
#261
The Conspiracy Theorist in me, and I'm the most forgiving person on the planet!, does find this a little too coincidental
"Wuhan Institute of Virology. The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses. The institute is linked to Beijing’s covert bio-weapons program."
Source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...program-possi/
"Wuhan Institute of Virology. The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses. The institute is linked to Beijing’s covert bio-weapons program."
Source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...program-possi/
25 March 2020, 08:32 PM
#262
Scooby Senior
So what you're hinting is the coronavirus is a biological weapon developed by the most advanced virus research laboratory in China that is linked to Beijings covert bio-weapons program?.......and then gave their secret bilogical weaponised coronavirus' genetic code to microbiologists at UK's high security military research lab at Porton Down?
26 March 2020, 03:27 AM
#264
So what you're hinting is the coronavirus is a biological weapon developed by the most advanced virus research laboratory in China that is linked to Beijings covert bio-weapons program?.......and then gave their secret bilogical weaponised coronavirus' genetic code to microbiologists at UK's high security military research lab at Porton Down?
26 March 2020, 01:36 PM
#267
Scooby Senior
Dammit! 
My company has decided to close down for two weeks and everyone has to take holidays or use up flexytime. I was looking forward to having a few weeks off at home and finally getting round to all those odd jobs at home and sorting out for moving house in a few months time.
Now I've just been told, my project is business critical, so the closure doesn't affect me and I still have to work
My company has decided to close down for two weeks and everyone has to take holidays or use up flexytime. I was looking forward to having a few weeks off at home and finally getting round to all those odd jobs at home and sorting out for moving house in a few months time.
Now I've just been told, my project is business critical, so the closure doesn't affect me and I still have to work
26 March 2020, 10:24 PM
#270
Also known as daz
Nicola Sturgeon: "life should not feel normal", and if it did, you should ask "if you are doing the right things".
I’m a social introvert, so this feel perfectly normal...Months on end without having to mingle with the wider public feels like heaven
Am I doing it wrong then? 🤔
I’m a social introvert, so this feel perfectly normal...Months on end without having to mingle with the wider public feels like heaven
Am I doing it wrong then? 🤔
For me it's like Christmas come early, people seem to be losing their heads, whilst I'm loving it.
They should make it a yearly thing.