BMWhere?

The Aussies have been doing it pretty much from the start and seems to have worked well for them! The UK government is far too indecisive though when it comes to making sensible decisions on Covid policy!

IdonthaveaScooby

I got a feeling they ,media / fundraising , workload possibly too much for Capt Tom

ALi-B

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Lots of causes of pneumonia, traditionally it's due to flu or a bacterial infection (usually streptococcus). The awkward possibility he caught Covid whilst already ill off a carer or family member is the blunt reality of why restrictions and countermeasures need to be better understood (i.e social distancing in a enclosed room is pointless regardless of masks and a visor without a mask is useless).

Covid aside so many people really do not understand how easily a medically venerable person can succumb to something as recoverable as strep-throat. That's what finished off my gran....family member had it, transmitted it to her (as you do), dead in a month gasping for her last breath.


Anyway, I bet if you gave the guy a choice of how to spend the last 12months I don't think he'd have any regrets.

andy97

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Before Xmas Tom was flown to the Carribbean for a reward for his efforts.

Flying is never a good idea currently.

He was not available to have the the vaccine before caught pneumonia and not able to take it while being treated for pneumonia. The cockup was he could have had the vaccine early December, our neighbour got hers early December and she is 87.

ALi-B

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Awkward question is did he have his Flu jab? And is the current flu jab effective? There have been times in recent years it was no where as effective as it should have been. With global lockdowns affecting flu transmission it's possible the correct strains immunise against were not identified.

As for flying; When I was on certain asthma steroids I could guarantee you that I would get a cold after plane flight, especially a medium/long haul flight. As such I always question the effectiveness and maintenance regimes of aircraft filtration systems. It's only since Covid, carriers have been a little more transparent. Of course it's not just the aircraft, it's the halls, lounges, queues etc. Unless it's a private aircraft out of a private terminal it's probably the third biggest hotspot for virus transmission alongside hospitals, supermarkets/shopping centres, education establishments and public transport.

Wurzel

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Looks like no border closures for the UK then.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...-plan-12207519

BMWhere?

Wurzel

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Why are they so obscessed with getting kids, or should we give them their proper title "disease ridden snot monsters" back to school where they can associate closely with other disease ridden snot monster, and assume things will start to get back to normal?

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ister-12208197

andy97

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Predicted vaccine rollout for UK adult population

BMWhere?

The airports have no idea about the quarantine plan, the hotels have no idea about the quarantine plan. Presumably the government has know idea about the quarantine plan! What an absolute disaster!

Airports 'have no idea' how quarantine rules will work
Coronavirus: Hotels 'yet to hear anything' on quarantine plan

Wurzel

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You seem suprised Mr Brady, this is Boris and his bum chums remember, the Eton elite.

BMWhere?

Ah, you're right, the only thing that lot can organise is the pig for the student party!

andy97

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Even Germans think VDL is a muppet
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cines-disgrace

BMWhere?

Reported by the Bild newspaper, the German equivalent of the Sunday Sport
how's the border closures going Andy? you wouldn't want them having to vaccinate all them pesky foreigners!

andy97

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The surprising element was the Guardian reported it. They are the UK's toady to the EU. Everyone knew VDL was a poor(extremely polite) person for high office- yet the Germans installed her. Maybe its a part of a grand master plan to bring down the Eu from within by placing idiots to run it.

Borders should have been shut in the UK, USA and Europe completely, this has been a failure and allowed virus to spread rapidly. I always wanted total ban on movement of people. See Australia shining example.

IdonthaveaScooby

Our government too scared to make homecomers pay for their quaratine ( since they cant be trusted at home ) - lest they dont vote tory boy again

why ever they did last time , a complete mystery

andy97

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No mystery, they wanted UK to leave EU. That was the main theme of last election. The Tories win by a landslide.


Labour party have now decided after conducting surveys in several regions, they need to be alot more patriotic, flag waving of the Union Jack and smartly dressed. No more student grunge for Labour

mrtheedge2u2

Andy, you flip from Germany wanting to rule the whole of the EU to Germany wanting to destroy the EU. Take a position and stick to it.

mrtheedge2u2

Smartly dressed.....have you seen Boris???? I have seen smarter looking hobos

Wurzel

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Seems the UK Government does actually have a money tree afterall.

https://news.sky.com/story/free-scho...-deal-12208812

andy97

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You must live in Kensington/Mayfair borough

coupe_20vt

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BBC News just reported all over 50's will be vaccinated by May. Great news.

BMWhere?

That is good news!

In a sea of disasters managing covid, the Vaccination roll out is the single bit they seem to be doing well, although they're only really doing well issuing the first dose rather than both doses!

Tidgy

I knew you'd be critical somehow hahaha

You'll be pleased to know thag actuap science has proven a single dose makes a massive difference even at 12 weeks.

andy97

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Pretty much guarantees no death amd extremely unlikely to be hospitalised from catching a variant of Covid.

Another gaff from VDL. Likens UK to a speedboat whereas EU is a lumbering tanker. Doh

IdonthaveaScooby

There’s 45 year olds in hospital ... as many as 80 olds


Can’t quite see it as being great news - if other countries are closed
!?!

andy97

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EUs top diplomat seen kowtowing to Russia over Sputnik vaccine. Wait for EU to drop sanctions

IdonthaveaScooby

Oh - like all the sanctions we’ve applied lol

Sputnik is 90 % effective so why wouldn’t you

lots places around the world have

andy97

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Err!

Because buying a product from a rogue state that kills its political enemies, sends agents to poison Russian people in the UK with nerve agent is legitimising their actions. Effectively the EU are saying its ok what you have done by buying the vaccine. Sure the vaccine is useful but there are other supplies.

The French were slow again, UK has secured vaccines from Valneva, a French pharmaceuticals

IdonthaveaScooby

So if most of the world can only get hold of the Russian vaccine , they should just die rather than wait for UK to hand out something ?

you are using the virus to take aim at EU

just ridiculous