dpb

The saddest result i can see is the residents of Goldthorpe, voting for Farridge

how fcuked up is that

Felix.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but both the Conservatives and Labour had manifestos to respect the result of the referendum and get us out of the EU. Therefore:

Brexit (31.7%) Lab (14.1%) Con (8.7%) UKIP (3.6%) = 58.1%
Lib (18.5%) Green (11.1%) SNP (3.3%) Change (2.9%) = 35.8%
Others (6.1%)

Does this not suggest the majority of people are wanting to leave?

ALi-B

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Election Map on BBC is a interesting sight when you ‘Labour only’ is selected.....the biggest concentration of Labour majorities are within London and little where else! (Ignoring the ‘Labour ‘till I die because that’s what me da’ and granda’ voted areas...Liverpool/Cardiff and lesser Birmingham etc. ).

Meanwhile biggest conservative concentration was Dumfries and nowhere else!

The other parties had a mostly even spread across the country.

Looking at the Lib dem and Brexit party’s successes, the leave/remain split is still very much too close for any form of landslide one way or the other if another referendum was called, although we do have a 63% silent majority which if invoked could vote for anything!

ALi-B

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Sadly we had 63.3% who did not vote, we have no idea which way they would vote.

Sad Weevil

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As I said, the percentage of remain/leave votes within the Labour and Conservative results is unknown. You are assuming all Labour and Conservative voters were leavers. That's a big assumption. The turnout was so small that no real conclusions can be drawn. Democracy only has a chance of working if people meet their responsibility to use their vote.

Felix.

And you have a right to not vote as well remember.

Are people also assuming that all Lib Dem, Greens and SNP voters were remainers - that must also be an assumption.

dpb

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...esults-tell-us

BMWhere?

Thats about as safe an assumption as all Brexit party voters are leavers!

Dr Hu

BOOM!!

dpb

Ones reminded Trump’s inauguration pics

Sad Weevil

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A pretty safe assumption, seeing as how this was the central issue of their position. Just as it's pretty safe to assume that the Brexit party voters were all leavers. Your assumption that all Labour and Conservative voters were leavers is less valid.

BMWhere?

Brexit party won 31% of the vote from a 37% turnout, so that means just 11% of the electorate actually supported them. Such a low turnout is not really representative!

Tidgy

you do realise this wasn't some random online poll?

dpb

I think most people here can read

Felix.

Its in their manifesto

You can also argue that the Green party voters didn't really care if we were in or out of Europe, as environmental issues were top of the list. Same for the SNP with independence.

ALi-B

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Sadly this is the way it is and will remain for the foreseeable, for a long time the vocal minority have persistently been those who paved the direction of our politics.

This site is a bit propagandist but this article highlights the issue eloquently: http://www.votenone.org.uk/real-election-results.html

Felix.

Or the majority of people aren't really bothered either way and are happy to go with what ever the result brings.

Sad Weevil

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And? I think we know that Lab and Cons are both divided over this issue, within their membership and respective cabinets. As I said, the proportion of leave/remain votes among the two big parties is unknown.

Very unlikely. If you knew anything about the Green Party, you'd know that remaining in the EU is their top priority, in order to work alongside other green parties in the European Parliament to try and bring about meaningful change. With the SNP, remaining in the EU is a top priority, in order to make independence a feasible possibility from an economic point of view.
I could argue, along similar lines as you, that the Brexit party supporters don't really care if we're in or out, but just wanted to vote against the established parties, which is equally unlikely.

Felix.

You could argue all sorts to be honest - i bet people voted for other parties because they just don't like Nigel

I overheard a conversation at a bus stop in 2016 between a group of older people who thought they were directly voting for Boris to be PM or not.

Mix into this pot the people who always vote Labour, Tory etc no matter what. But can you also argue that all these will average each other out?

andy97

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80% of Tories voted brexit party this time, a true kicking

Felix.

where's that figure from?

Road Warrior

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I'd say more like 80% of UKIP voters voted brexit party this time...

dpb

You could argue all sorts to be honest - i bet people voted for other parties because they just don't like Nigel


Can you blame them , when they hear his main objective of 'Stick it to the establishment'

What does that **** even mean

Linksfahrer

At least "most" of you got a chance to vote , over in Germany I did not , they failed to get me my UK EU vote onto the council list,
when I arrived at the poll station Sunday I was asked to register again at the council. I have been on the register since 1991 !!

The same happened to an Austrian friend of mine , and locally in the county of Hessen around 4000 Rumanian's turned up to vote where the polling cards were
but half of them were unable to do so as they had underestimated how many wished to vote and ran out of forms.

The whole EU voting system is Fake news in my opinion,

BMWhere?

I also knew a few people here (not just Brits) who were not on the list for the European elections. Since the last vote (or before last vote) they have introduces a system to ensure you can't be on the list in two countries, so many people who were previously on the list in the Germany were removed. I registered a few weeks ago as I wanted to make sure I would get my vote in Germany as I can no longer vote in the UK!

BMWhere?

This is worth a read as an analysis about who voted what, where and Leave vs Remain

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48402593