Bob Rawle and his attitude problem.
#211
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Just found this about the DeltaDash on the EcuTek website. Makes for some interesting reading, especially towards the end
http://www.ecutek.com/Products/Featu...d-Dyno-Testing
http://www.ecutek.com/Products/Featu...d-Dyno-Testing
#212
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I am happy for you man, I really am. I can’t help remembering though that when Bob mapped my Hatch a few years ago, he told me that it was making 480/480 on super unleaded on the Deltadash.
I was ecstatic with the quoted figures and it felt like I was piloting the bloody space shuttle. Then I noticed that stock M135i s, RS3s, AMG 45s etc were pulling my pants down at every opportunity. Not to mention that when the ambient temp hit anything above 20 degrees the power started dropping considerably on long runs. Never took the car on the track to be honest, as I knew what the outcome would be. Toyed with the idea of putting the car on a rolling road to confirm his Deltadash claims, but unfortunately never got around to it.
Come to think about it, I was never given a copy of the Deltadash which is a bit weird.
I have been driving a stock JDM Hawkeye for the last few months, which feels every inch as quick as the mapped Hatch did and is only rated 320/320 from the factory and I know for a fact that the Deltadash can massage the figures (especially if you enter the car’s weight incorrectly) as I have been playing with the software myself. Big figures mean happy customers.
Seriously though, even though I don’t know you, I am really happy for you. Just take these figures with a pinch of salt unless they are produced on a dyno, and enjoy your Hatch.
I was ecstatic with the quoted figures and it felt like I was piloting the bloody space shuttle. Then I noticed that stock M135i s, RS3s, AMG 45s etc were pulling my pants down at every opportunity. Not to mention that when the ambient temp hit anything above 20 degrees the power started dropping considerably on long runs. Never took the car on the track to be honest, as I knew what the outcome would be. Toyed with the idea of putting the car on a rolling road to confirm his Deltadash claims, but unfortunately never got around to it.
Come to think about it, I was never given a copy of the Deltadash which is a bit weird.
I have been driving a stock JDM Hawkeye for the last few months, which feels every inch as quick as the mapped Hatch did and is only rated 320/320 from the factory and I know for a fact that the Deltadash can massage the figures (especially if you enter the car’s weight incorrectly) as I have been playing with the software myself. Big figures mean happy customers.
Seriously though, even though I don’t know you, I am really happy for you. Just take these figures with a pinch of salt unless they are produced on a dyno, and enjoy your Hatch.
a rolling road and it’s made roughly the same, im
sure there are some differences in some cases just like different rolling roads make different figures. Who decides which figure to
believe? Do we believe rolling roads or road mapping figures??
surely low numbers mean more business? As the person will keep going back after doing more mods
But the car made 480bhp at engine tuner mapped by martyn on the standard tmic with meth injection. No issues with temps....martyn and Alan said the 2.5” exhaust system, the standard headers and up pipe were holding the car back and unable to surpass 1.5 bar because of it.
So I take the car home.....all good. Get new 3” exhaust, rcm unequal headers, Harvey up-pipe, 4 bar map sensor......get them all installed and take the car to bob for mapping and it makes the 525bhp and 568 ft lbs. I don’t think that’s such a surprise from where the car was at engine tuner and what it made then.
Just because we making this power doesn’t mean the car is faster than rs3’s etc those car engines are more modern/efficient plus dsg
People have been saying for ages that soon as you hit 350bhp you need a fmic....I didn’t want a fmic as I think they’re hideous so went the aquamist route and seems to be working well....the car doesn’t get tracked and is just used for a quick blast now and then anyways
#213
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Thanks....I understand what you’re saying but there are people who have used bob, took the car to
a rolling road and it’s made roughly the same, im
sure there are some differences in some cases just like different rolling roads make different figures. Who decides which figure to
believe? Do we believe rolling roads or road mapping figures??
surely low numbers mean more business? As the person will keep going back after doing more mods
But the car made 480bhp at engine tuner mapped by martyn on the standard tmic with meth injection. No issues with temps....martyn and Alan said the 2.5” exhaust system, the standard headers and up pipe were holding the car back and unable to surpass 1.5 bar because of it.
So I take the car home.....all good. Get new 3” exhaust, rcm unequal headers, Harvey up-pipe, 4 bar map sensor......get them all installed and take the car to bob for mapping and it makes the 525bhp and 568 ft lbs. I don’t think that’s such a surprise from where the car was at engine tuner and what it made then.
Just because we making this power doesn’t mean the car is faster than rs3’s etc those car engines are more modern/efficient plus dsg
People have been saying for ages that soon as you hit 350bhp you need a fmic....I didn’t want a fmic as I think they’re hideous so went the aquamist route and seems to be working well....the car doesn’t get tracked and is just used for a quick blast now and then anyways
a rolling road and it’s made roughly the same, im
sure there are some differences in some cases just like different rolling roads make different figures. Who decides which figure to
believe? Do we believe rolling roads or road mapping figures??
surely low numbers mean more business? As the person will keep going back after doing more mods
But the car made 480bhp at engine tuner mapped by martyn on the standard tmic with meth injection. No issues with temps....martyn and Alan said the 2.5” exhaust system, the standard headers and up pipe were holding the car back and unable to surpass 1.5 bar because of it.
So I take the car home.....all good. Get new 3” exhaust, rcm unequal headers, Harvey up-pipe, 4 bar map sensor......get them all installed and take the car to bob for mapping and it makes the 525bhp and 568 ft lbs. I don’t think that’s such a surprise from where the car was at engine tuner and what it made then.
Just because we making this power doesn’t mean the car is faster than rs3’s etc those car engines are more modern/efficient plus dsg
People have been saying for ages that soon as you hit 350bhp you need a fmic....I didn’t want a fmic as I think they’re hideous so went the aquamist route and seems to be working well....the car doesn’t get tracked and is just used for a quick blast now and then anyways
this thread is just pointless really
#214
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No, you don’t need a FMIC over 350/350, but you may need a larger TMIC at your level as the stock one is way too small. Possibly a Wagner or an ETS or a Grimmspeed. Mine was running significantly cooler on one of those.
Until it lifted its cylinder heads
Until it lifted its cylinder heads
#215
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free flowing and pulls a lot better so the figures are bang on as far as im concerned
#216
what about the clinic's attitude problem when caught with proper video evidence purposely smashing a customers car through pot holes.
but the fanbois forget this.
i remember their attitude when exposed stunk even more,to the point of the clown that did it still being employed by them.
but the fanbois forget this.
i remember their attitude when exposed stunk even more,to the point of the clown that did it still being employed by them.
#217
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Originally Posted by wrx2005
what about the clinic's attitude problem when caught with proper video evidence purposely smashing a customers car through pot holes.
but the fanbois forget this.
i remember their attitude when exposed stunk even more,to the point of the clown that did it still being employed by them.
but the fanbois forget this.
i remember their attitude when exposed stunk even more,to the point of the clown that did it still being employed by them.
#218
everybody makes mistakes, the clinics was proved with video evidence.
I'm yet to see any evidence of bob's mistakes apart from one mans ramblings.
for the record though i do think the clinic's work and knowledge is not in question, its just the irony of the title saying "attitude problem" given the clinics pot holing video.
#219
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but my point is.
everybody makes mistakes, the clinics was proved with video evidence.
I'm yet to see any evidence of bob's mistakes apart from one mans ramblings.
for the record though i do think the clinic's work and knowledge is not in question, its just the irony of the title saying "attitude problem" given the clinics pot holing video.
everybody makes mistakes, the clinics was proved with video evidence.
I'm yet to see any evidence of bob's mistakes apart from one mans ramblings.
for the record though i do think the clinic's work and knowledge is not in question, its just the irony of the title saying "attitude problem" given the clinics pot holing video.
Just saying.
Otherwise I agree with your comments about everyone making mistakes. It's really how you deal with those issues that counts.
#220
Technically there are at least 2 people who have had issues as this thread was not started by Gary aka RAGGY DOO, but by someone else with issues.
Just saying.
Otherwise I agree with your comments about everyone making mistakes. It's really how you deal with those issues that counts.
Just saying.
Otherwise I agree with your comments about everyone making mistakes. It's really how you deal with those issues that counts.
as for its how you deal with them that counts, is calling the man with a video a liar then trying to belittle them on social media and still employing the clown that purposely damaged a customers car is the acceptable way to deal with it?
not for me its not.
i have seen no evidence of bob's wrong doing so far either just two people claiming things with no evidence. you know like a video
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