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13 June 2019, 12:18 PM
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Just imagine It , the ruling elite will make sure he gets in and then he'll just put his feet up till end of Autumn while uk goes hell
This is what that the million extra wanted presumably
This is what that the million extra wanted presumably
18 June 2019, 10:04 PM
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Fortunately I missed it!
Raab is now out, that's definitely a good thing!
I was expecting Stewart to go to, but he did surprisingly well, can't see the members voting for him if he does get through to the last two though, which is a shame as out of all of them, he's the conservatives best hope at winning a general election.
If Johnson gets the job, I can see a number of Tory MPs resigning the whip. They are already a minority government and would only take a couple to go then a general election is inevitable!
Raab is now out, that's definitely a good thing!
I was expecting Stewart to go to, but he did surprisingly well, can't see the members voting for him if he does get through to the last two though, which is a shame as out of all of them, he's the conservatives best hope at winning a general election.
If Johnson gets the job, I can see a number of Tory MPs resigning the whip. They are already a minority government and would only take a couple to go then a general election is inevitable!
19 June 2019, 08:16 AM
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Naked ambition ( at the behest that extra million ) and with help the elites , over the benefit of party country and the world
Stewart had sensible ideas , but thats not what the public want or the party
Stewart had sensible ideas , but thats not what the public want or the party
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19 June 2019, 12:10 PM
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Currently the Lib Dems are beating the Conservatives in the polls. They lost Euro-skeptic Conservative voters to UKIP/Brexit party many years ago, now they are losing the moderate masses to the Lib Dems which will harm the party in a general election far more than the hand-full of Euro-skeptics.
If they elect a a hard-line Brexiteer as leader, then I predict a waft of resignations from the Tory party and a general election is inevitable and they will be lucky to come in 3rd place! Sadly, there seems to be no sense left in the party or the membership who will select our next prime minister. There is no chance in hell they will select Stewart, yet he is seemingly the only candidate who seems to see the bigger picture and the mess they are in!
19 June 2019, 01:39 PM
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He made such great job being foreign secretary ..!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...766.html%3famp
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20 June 2019, 04:22 PM
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He's the only one who is being realistic about the reality of a minority government trying to implement Brexit. The others are all living in a fantasy world!
Currently the Lib Dems are beating the Conservatives in the polls. They lost Euro-skeptic Conservative voters to UKIP/Brexit party many years ago, now they are losing the moderate masses to the Lib Dems which will harm the party in a general election far more than the hand-full of Euro-skeptics.
If they elect a a hard-line Brexiteer as leader, then I predict a waft of resignations from the Tory party and a general election is inevitable and they will be lucky to come in 3rd place! Sadly, there seems to be no sense left in the party or the membership who will select our next prime minister. There is no chance in hell they will select Stewart, yet he is seemingly the only candidate who seems to see the bigger picture and the mess they are in!
Currently the Lib Dems are beating the Conservatives in the polls. They lost Euro-skeptic Conservative voters to UKIP/Brexit party many years ago, now they are losing the moderate masses to the Lib Dems which will harm the party in a general election far more than the hand-full of Euro-skeptics.
If they elect a a hard-line Brexiteer as leader, then I predict a waft of resignations from the Tory party and a general election is inevitable and they will be lucky to come in 3rd place! Sadly, there seems to be no sense left in the party or the membership who will select our next prime minister. There is no chance in hell they will select Stewart, yet he is seemingly the only candidate who seems to see the bigger picture and the mess they are in!
If the Tories don't deliver Brexit then Tory voters will vote for New UKIP in the next General Election and the Tory Party will be lucky to achieve 100 seats.
It's why they've been falling over themselves to show their ultra-macho hard Brexit credentials.
In reality though, after a decade of austerity, the Tories are finished in government for the next 10 years, regardless of who the leader is.
20 June 2019, 08:58 PM
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The other contenders know that it will be virtually impossible to implement Brexit by end October but they realised that they are in an existentialist fight for the survival of the Tory party because most Tory voters (not most of the public) are insistent on getting Brexit anyway and anyhow.
If the Tories don't deliver Brexit then Tory voters will vote for New UKIP in the next General Election and the Tory Party will be lucky to achieve 100 seats.
It's why they've been falling over themselves to show their ultra-macho hard Brexit credentials.
In reality though, after a decade of austerity, the Tories are finished in government for the next 10 years, regardless of who the leader is.
If the Tories don't deliver Brexit then Tory voters will vote for New UKIP in the next General Election and the Tory Party will be lucky to achieve 100 seats.
It's why they've been falling over themselves to show their ultra-macho hard Brexit credentials.
In reality though, after a decade of austerity, the Tories are finished in government for the next 10 years, regardless of who the leader is.
20 June 2019, 10:46 PM
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Its not true that all Tory voters are in favour of Brexit. Many more moderate Tory voters have never supported Brexit but were willing to accept it for the sake of democracy. They are now losing those voters to the Lib Dems and that is what will cost them in an election. Many of the Brexit supporting Tories they had anyway lost to UKIP years ago!
If what you say above is true then both Conservative Central Office, the Parliamentary Tory Party and I have misread the European election results.
Not one leadership contender has offered any olive branch to tempt any Liberal voter.
This leadership election is to elect a leader who will out-Farage Farage, deliver Brexit and bring hordes of defecting leaver votes back form Farage's party.
If the new leader fails to deliver Brexit before the next GE, the Tories know that they will lose badly because of the votes taken by Farage's New UKIP party as well as by the general public punishing them for 10 years of austerity.
Most of the Tory hierarchy already accept that they probably won't win a majority at the next election. The issue is over how badly they would lose.
If they have to fight Farage's party because they haven't yet delivered Brexit then there's a good chance they won't even muster enough seats to become Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition.
The Tory Party is fighting for its existence.
21 June 2019, 08:19 AM
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Youre slightly late to the party , she's stepped down 
Now we have spectacle of Boris making a fool of himself next few months before never being heard of again
Now we have spectacle of Boris making a fool of himself next few months before never being heard of again
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21 June 2019, 04:57 PM
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Why are you blaming Labour for this?
Brexit is whole and solely a Tory catastrophe. They've spent the past 35 years pulling themselves apart over it ably assisted by Farage, UKIP, New UKIP and the DUP.
Now they've managed to split the country.
But this mess is nothing to do with Labour (useless as they are).
Brexit is whole and solely a Tory catastrophe. They've spent the past 35 years pulling themselves apart over it ably assisted by Farage, UKIP, New UKIP and the DUP.
Now they've managed to split the country.
But this mess is nothing to do with Labour (useless as they are).
Late reply but I never blamed Labour. I said labour caused mayhem. Politics in general is broken and as far as I am concerned they are all to blame.
21 June 2019, 05:23 PM
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Just too easy to trot that line out im afraid.
Means zilch
Presumably you mean the possibility Johnson shutting down parliament just like the Irish,to enforce the "Will of the people"
Means zilch
Presumably you mean the possibility Johnson shutting down parliament just like the Irish,to enforce the "Will of the people"
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24 June 2019, 02:17 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48742881
25 June 2019, 05:56 PM
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The reality will soon hit hard! Johnson career as PM will be short lived!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48742881
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48742881
He's admitted he'd got nothing Nothing at all new as a strategy
other than foppy haired appeal to Tory middle aged women
( Presumably)
25 June 2019, 10:08 PM
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