So ... flat earthers
19 May 2018, 12:08 PM
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If you read my post properly, you will see I have not said the earth is flat. There is no absolute evidence to say it is. But what I said was that if you look at some of the videos and interviews, it does make you think. Thinking is good. Questioning stuff it good. Just being a complete sheep and believing everything you are told is not good.
19 May 2018, 01:44 PM
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And right there is your problem. You've somehow managed to convince yourself that the reason all or the majority of people who believe the world is round do so because "it's just what they've been told, and they're too pathetic and/or weak-willed to question it". What evidence have you got though that this is the case? Have you conducted any research or commissioned surveys to actually establish this? Have you even considered the possibility that the actual reason most/all people believe it is because the basic scientific facts supporting it make overwhelmingly better sense than any of the marginal notions that in some twisted kind of way vaguely point to the Earth possibly being flat? Everything you've posted here so far seems to suggest you haven't. So here's my suggestion for you. Why don't you go away and find some actual evidence that the primary reason people believe the Earth is round is because they're sheeple, and we might have something to discuss. Otherwise, I'll maintain that the case is proven that you're just stirring the conspiracy pot for the sake of stirring, or because of some unspoken agenda, but most certainly not because of some desire to enlighten the rest of humanity. And on that bssis, the best advice I could offer you or anyone else doing the same is to go and stick your spoon somewhere the sun doesn't shine. Clear enough?
Jesus Christ, are you for real? Or maybe I should ask, is Jesus Christ real?
For the sake of having to explain to an idiot again. I've NOT SAID the earth is Flat. Can you understand that point? FFS
All I have said is some of the evidence makes you think that they maybe something behind it. I will believe the earth is round, until I see absolute evidence that it is not.
But for all those saying the Flat earth theory is for nutters, then I want proof, absolute proof of certain things that they believe in.
Proof of God
Proof of Jesus
Proof of the Big Bang
When anyone can prove those things, then they can call people who may believe the earth is flat, total nutters.
Most of the planet (see I said planet and not flat earth) believe in a god (many gods in fact) without one single shred of evidence. We are told from birth that there is one. But how many gods are there? as every different religion believes in a different god. So just how many gods did create the earth? One? Twenty one? Maybe in was a committee?
Wars have raged, and still happen over religion. Wars started all because of some blind faith that their god is the only god that exists. A god that somehow exists with no actual proof.
Maybe all these flat earthers should crowd fund to build a big telescope. Sit it on the coast and point it towards land that should be impossible to see if the earth was indeed round.
If you can see it, the earth is flat.
If you can't, then the earth is round
But just believing everything you are told is stupid. Though you have at least proven that to be true.
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19 May 2018, 10:16 PM
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20 May 2018, 12:02 AM
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Jesus Christ, are you for real? Or maybe I should ask, is Jesus Christ real?
For the sake of having to explain to an idiot again. I've NOT SAID the earth is Flat. Can you understand that point? FFS
All I have said is some of the evidence makes you think that they maybe something behind it. I will believe the earth is round, until I see absolute evidence that it is not.
But for all those saying the Flat earth theory is for nutters, then I want proof, absolute proof of certain things that they believe in.
Proof of God
Proof of Jesus
Proof of the Big Bang
When anyone can prove those things, then they can call people who may believe the earth is flat, total nutters.
Most of the planet (see I said planet and not flat earth) believe in a god (many gods in fact) without one single shred of evidence. We are told from birth that there is one. But how many gods are there? as every different religion believes in a different god. So just how many gods did create the earth? One? Twenty one? Maybe in was a committee?
Wars have raged, and still happen over religion. Wars started all because of some blind faith that their god is the only god that exists. A god that somehow exists with no actual proof.
Maybe all these flat earthers should crowd fund to build a big telescope. Sit it on the coast and point it towards land that should be impossible to see if the earth was indeed round.
If you can see it, the earth is flat.
If you can't, then the earth is round
But just believing everything you are told is stupid. Though you have at least proven that to be true.
For the sake of having to explain to an idiot again. I've NOT SAID the earth is Flat. Can you understand that point? FFS
All I have said is some of the evidence makes you think that they maybe something behind it. I will believe the earth is round, until I see absolute evidence that it is not.
But for all those saying the Flat earth theory is for nutters, then I want proof, absolute proof of certain things that they believe in.
Proof of God
Proof of Jesus
Proof of the Big Bang
When anyone can prove those things, then they can call people who may believe the earth is flat, total nutters.
Most of the planet (see I said planet and not flat earth) believe in a god (many gods in fact) without one single shred of evidence. We are told from birth that there is one. But how many gods are there? as every different religion believes in a different god. So just how many gods did create the earth? One? Twenty one? Maybe in was a committee?
Wars have raged, and still happen over religion. Wars started all because of some blind faith that their god is the only god that exists. A god that somehow exists with no actual proof.
Maybe all these flat earthers should crowd fund to build a big telescope. Sit it on the coast and point it towards land that should be impossible to see if the earth was indeed round.
If you can see it, the earth is flat.
If you can't, then the earth is round
But just believing everything you are told is stupid. Though you have at least proven that to be true.
Or quite likely a combination of both ...
20 May 2018, 07:23 AM
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What is the conspiracy that the 'globe gang' are hiding from us? It must be massive as the whole of physics has had to of be distorted in order make us believe the earth is spherical.
21 May 2018, 09:04 AM
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Watch some of the evidence on YouTube. Not saying it's fact, but it makes you think. And that is all I've said.
But while you're at it, can you show me one bit of evidence in the existence of God?
21 May 2018, 10:06 AM
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But, none of the stuff I have seen on youtube comes close, which is why I asked you to point me to a piece of evidence which made you think it may be flat.
21 May 2018, 12:30 PM
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Just to reiterate to those who are hard of reading. I have not said, and never will say the earth is flat. I have said some of the stuff posted on YouTube saying this is the evidence, make you think. As some of the stuff looks plausible.
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to 911, make you think
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to the Moon landings, makes to think
Maybe I should just believe everything I'm told, without question?
Waits for someone else to tell me I've said the earth is flat .............
21 May 2018, 12:53 PM
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Just to reiterate to those who are hard of reading. I have not said, and never will say the earth is flat. I have said some of the stuff posted on YouTube saying this is the evidence, make you think. As some of the stuff looks plausible.
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to 911, make you think
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to the Moon landings, makes to think
Maybe I should just believe everything I'm told, without question?
Waits for someone else to tell me I've said the earth is flat .............
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to 911, make you think
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to the Moon landings, makes to think
Maybe I should just believe everything I'm told, without question?
Waits for someone else to tell me I've said the earth is flat .............
21 May 2018, 01:49 PM
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21 May 2018, 01:58 PM
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21 May 2018, 03:17 PM
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Just to reiterate to those who are hard of reading. I have not said, and never will say the earth is flat. I have said some of the stuff posted on YouTube saying this is the evidence, make you think. As some of the stuff looks plausible.
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to 911, make you think
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to the Moon landings, makes to think
Maybe I should just believe everything I'm told, without question?
Waits for someone else to tell me I've said the earth is flat .............
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to 911, make you think
Just like when looking at the evidence relating to the Moon landings, makes to think
Maybe I should just believe everything I'm told, without question?
Waits for someone else to tell me I've said the earth is flat .............
It's a simple enough request?
21 May 2018, 03:41 PM
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The point being (and you know fine well) is that most of the world have `blind` faith that there is a God. Many Gods in fact, based on nothing more than being told there is a god. No proof, just `There is a god`.
Wars have started because of religion. People are getting shot, knifed, and blown up, in the name of a God. A God, that I have yet to see one single shred of evidence that exists.
Yet, most people who believe in these Gods, are saying anyone who believe that the earth is flat, is some sort of nutter.
So, you can't call people nutters for believing in something, when you believe in something yourself that has no proof.
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21 May 2018, 03:45 PM
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I'm not hard of reading, you have said that some of the stuff on Youtube makes you think, or is 'plausible', whereas I have never seen anything on Youtube for 9/11 or flat Earth, which is plausible, so again, can you point me at something which you thought plausible?
It's a simple enough request?
It's a simple enough request?
Well, all I can say is that you haven't watched anything of any significance then. Especially 9/11.
Continue with your closed mind. The heard is going that way ----)
21 May 2018, 03:48 PM
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The point being (and you know fine well) is that most of the world have `blind` faith that there is a God. Many Gods in fact, based on nothing more than being told there is a god. No proof, just `There is a god`.
Wars have started because of religion. People are getting shot, knifed, and blown up, in the name of a God. A God, that I have yet to see one single shred of evidence that exists.
Yet, most people who believe in these Gods, are saying anyone who believe that the earth is round, is some sort of nutter.
So, you can't call people nutters for believing in something, when you believe in something yourself that has no proof.
Wars have started because of religion. People are getting shot, knifed, and blown up, in the name of a God. A God, that I have yet to see one single shred of evidence that exists.
Yet, most people who believe in these Gods, are saying anyone who believe that the earth is round, is some sort of nutter.
So, you can't call people nutters for believing in something, when you believe in something yourself that has no proof.
I don't have a blind faith in god, so I'm still not sure why that relevant
Interestingly the flat-earth belief has it's roots in Christianity, although even the creationist has disowned them
The fact that earth is round, isn't a matter of belief. I don't believe it's round, I know it is.
21 May 2018, 04:38 PM
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As for flat Earth, not as much, but what I have seen is also bollocks. Are you avoiding answering because in your heart of hearts you know it's utter rubbish?
All I am asking is for something that you saw that made you question the accepted view.
21 May 2018, 05:15 PM
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I watched **** load of stuff on 9/11, and it's nonsense. I don't have a closed mind, just closed to bollocks.
As for flat Earth, not as much, but what I have seen is also bollocks. Are you avoiding answering because in your heart of hearts you know it's utter rubbish?
All I am asking is for something that you saw that made you question the accepted view.
As for flat Earth, not as much, but what I have seen is also bollocks. Are you avoiding answering because in your heart of hearts you know it's utter rubbish?
All I am asking is for something that you saw that made you question the accepted view.
Sounds very much like you have a closed mind to me.
21 May 2018, 05:24 PM
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No, if I had said " I refuse to watch any of those videos as I blindly believe the official line", then you would have a point. But I didn't, so you do not.
None of the stuff is remotely plausible, not because I am closed minded, or blindly believe, but rather because they fall apart when given the slightest rational appraisal. They are usually self contradictory with other parts of the same conspiracy, rely on pseudo science, lack of understanding or just plain wishful thinking!
You are obviously avoiding the answer now, which is a disappointing, because you never know, you may have actually come up with something which was quite interesting!
Hey ho
None of the stuff is remotely plausible, not because I am closed minded, or blindly believe, but rather because they fall apart when given the slightest rational appraisal. They are usually self contradictory with other parts of the same conspiracy, rely on pseudo science, lack of understanding or just plain wishful thinking!
You are obviously avoiding the answer now, which is a disappointing, because you never know, you may have actually come up with something which was quite interesting!
Hey ho
22 May 2018, 10:36 AM
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No, if I had said " I refuse to watch any of those videos as I blindly believe the official line", then you would have a point. But I didn't, so you do not.
None of the stuff is remotely plausible, not because I am closed minded, or blindly believe, but rather because they fall apart when given the slightest rational appraisal. They are usually self contradictory with other parts of the same conspiracy, rely on pseudo science, lack of understanding or just plain wishful thinking!
You are obviously avoiding the answer now, which is a disappointing, because you never know, you may have actually come up with something which was quite interesting!
Hey ho
None of the stuff is remotely plausible, not because I am closed minded, or blindly believe, but rather because they fall apart when given the slightest rational appraisal. They are usually self contradictory with other parts of the same conspiracy, rely on pseudo science, lack of understanding or just plain wishful thinking!
You are obviously avoiding the answer now, which is a disappointing, because you never know, you may have actually come up with something which was quite interesting!
Hey ho
Maybe all their experiment equipment was faulty?
Maybe, you should email them and tell them all their experiments mean nothing, as when you were little, you were told it was round. Santa Claus and the tooth fairy was real, and they should take their results to God and shown him. As when you were little, you were told God created everything.
With an open mind, these experiments make you think.
With a closed mind, you just keep believing everything you are told, and continue eating your Curlywurly
Just to be clear (Yet again) I am not saying categorically, the earth is flat. All I have said all along is that watching experiments like these, it makes you think. But, I'm sure you'll reply saying I'm a flat earth fanatic
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22 May 2018, 11:34 AM
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How do flat earthers explain the spherical images of the earth gathered from the cameras attached to Felix Baumgartner when he jumped from the edge of space in 2012 ?
22 May 2018, 12:45 PM
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How do flat earthers explain the spherical images of the earth gathered from the cameras attached to Felix Baumgartner when he jumped from the edge of space in 2012 ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw
Fisheye lenses.
and then apparently without
22 May 2018, 12:47 PM
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22 May 2018, 12:55 PM
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