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There is no range anxiety, if you drive within the capability of range. New leaf comfortably does 100miles at fast speeds. Will out accelerate most vehicles because it has 220ftlb torque from zero to top speed. Compare that to a A3 2.0tdi, max torque over only 1300 rpm, gutless above that.
Regarding handling, the electric cars are very impressive with low centre of gravity. The leaf isn't a sports car but does ride and corner well.
There is nothing not to like about an electric car, they are going to get faster, more range, more charging stations. (currently as many charge stations as fuel stations) Most owners of electric charge at home.
The ICE is now at the point where it's popularity will fall. commuting and local journeys will be done by electric vehicles in not too many years.
Electric powertrains are definately the future id agree.
BUT, they probably wont be battery based until theres some bigger problems addressed. By that i mean at the moment alls well as take up of BEV's is small and therefore its problems arent obvious. When scaling up to replace all current ICE's they fall a long way short.
World supply of lithium and cobalt. (a fraction required)
Every motorway services needing its own powerstation.
Vehicles that end up being hugely innefficient due to the battery mass required for range.
It'll be really interesting to see how Dysons new EV gets on as hes pumped a stupid amount of cash into developing solid state batteries, however this isnt really an answer as theyre still lithium based and still very heavy.
Yep all things to consider long term. However I've no idea on range when flooring a Tesla, I mean would it reduce range going at full speed vs pootling at 50mph? Or would you get the same range and simply get there faster?
I honestly have no idea.
Air resistance increases with square of velocity - so you'd get there faster but it will take a lot more power.
I hear that all the time. Oh electric can NEVER replace diesel because of the torque, actually electric can and often does have more. Or, oh electric is slow and crap, really? Better tell all the Tesla drivers their cars are slow then?
Lack of research every time.
I'm happy to drive a diesel car as well as a petrol performance car. I do not want to drive a silent, battery powered vehicle. And if you re-read my posts on this thread, you'll see I've not once said anything against EVs.
Maybe YOU should do some research on range/speed before criticising me.
I'm happy to drive a diesel car as well as a petrol performance car. I do not want to drive a silent, battery powered vehicle. And if you re-read my posts on this thread, you'll see I've not once said anything against EVs.
Maybe YOU should do some research on range/speed before criticising me.
Why not, what is your dislike to electric ?
Looking at what you said re the mileage from your A3 is approx 60 miles a day. More than achievable with an Electric car.
Anyway, EV's are not exactly the best looking cars about.
I passed a leaf last night, and it certainly wasn't blessed in the styling department.
My neighbour has a yaris hybrid thing - fugly.
Anyway, EV's are not exactly the best looking cars about.
I passed a leaf last night, and it certainly wasn't blessed in the styling department.
My neighbour has a yaris hybrid thing - fugly.
Each to their own and all that.
The '17 model was a bit odd, the '18 is very much more mainstream. It doesn't stand out in a car park, much like in design to the Honda Civic
The theory behind hydrogen is good, fuel catalyst producing electric for a motor. The problem is the energy required currently to get liquid hydrogen. This makes it unattractive presently. Battery is leading the way and until Hydrogen is sorted will do so. 5 years for new diesel tech- too late, everyone is already ditching diesel for petrol or electric. Diesel is tainted now, customers will not be easilt swayed to move back to it like they were in the 90's. Those who want to be traditional will use petrol engines
Those who buy a direct injected petrol citing dieselgate as the reasoning are idiots.
What do they think a stratified charge engine's main pollutants are? After diesel gate, does anyone think these directed-injected petrol engines will continue to conform to their respective EU emissions criteria for their entire life?
I'll give them a clue; NoX storage cats and sensors don't last and the driver will be faced with one of two situations; an engine that pollutes just like a diesel, or a engine that guzzles fuel like an old fashioned petrol but without the performance or refinement (otherwise known as emergency homogenous operation)! Fail!
I don't do cities if I can help it. London is a **** hole for pollution. New York nearly as bad, just go up a tower and see the brown smog over the whole island. look south east out towards the open sea and it's clear, well much clearer. All the major cities are just the same in the UK and around the world. Beijing the apartments have filtration to help stop the smog entering the property. They don't go outside when it's really bad. Just aswell because they sometimes go weeks without being able to see the sun due to the dense smog. London will go like this unless we get a grip of polluting vehicles.
I don't do cities if I can help it. London is a **** hole for pollution. New York nearly as bad, just go up a tower and see the brown smog over the whole island. look south east out towards the open sea and it's clear, well much clearer. All the major cities are just the same in the UK and around the world. Beijing the apartments have filtration to help stop the smog entering the property. They don't go outside when it's really bad. Just aswell because they sometimes go weeks without being able to see the sun due to the dense smog. London will go like this unless we get a grip of polluting vehicles.
I've been in Beijing during a bad smog out and the apartments most definitely do not have smog filters, well not unless your extremely rich anyway. London is not even comparable to be honest pollution wise.
The worst city I visited for pollution was Bangkok, this was at the time when all the tuktuks were 2stroke and running oil-rich mixtures (which in effect causes a fuel-lean mixture, so not only does it increase hydrocarbon emissions, the increased temperatures causes even more NOXs ). That combined with old buses and HGVs and a load of underbones just made it unbearable. I was told by fellow travellers that only place worse at the time was India and probably still is next to China. London doesn't even come close.
The theory behind hydrogen is good, fuel catalyst producing electric for a motor. The problem is the energy required currently to get liquid hydrogen. This makes it unattractive presently. Battery is leading the way and until Hydrogen is sorted will do so. 5 years for new diesel tech- too late, everyone is already ditching diesel for petrol or electric. Diesel is tainted now, customers will not be easilt swayed to move back to it like they were in the 90's. Those who want to be traditional will use petrol engines
fyi Andy, that' not quite how H2 works.
there actually aren't as many barriers to rolling it out as some would like us to believe.
I've been in Beijing during a bad smog out and the apartments most definitely do not have smog filters, well not unless your extremely rich anyway. London is not even comparable to be honest pollution wise.
My son's Girlfriend lived there for 6 years and they did have filters on their apartment . They didn't go outside when really bad .
there actually aren't as many barriers to rolling it out as some would like us to believe.
Correct. Hydrogen tech is close to ready but needs the infrastructure.
Also, liquid hydrogen is a great way of storing round the clock renewable power so production costs will fall.
And regarding the death of diesel, there's no significant HGV solution at present, petrol produces higher CO2, EV sales still only made 1.9% of U.K. sales last year so even if sales doubled every year they'd still be less than a third of the (car) market by the time ACCT is fully rolled out.
How does london compare now to 1950's and Delhi now !
That was coal smog. It was dealt with by the clean air act. I can't see why a similar act to stop the most polluting vehicle from being used now. Pressure from charging extra duty and more stringent MOT with congestion charging for cities. But a specific piece of legislation to force these vehicles off the road would go along way
28 March 2018, 03:55 PM
Fail!
