There is no range anxiety, if you drive within the capability of range. New leaf comfortably does 100miles at fast speeds. Will out accelerate most vehicles because it has 220ftlb torque from zero to top speed. Compare that to a A3 2.0tdi, max torque over only 1300 rpm, gutless above that.

 

That 350k a week to the NHS ,repeated endlessly, was a lie too !

 

Electric powertrains are definately the future id agree.

BUT, they probably wont be battery based until theres some bigger problems addressed. By that i mean at the moment alls well as take up of BEV's is small and therefore its problems arent obvious. When scaling up to replace all current ICE's they fall a long way short.

World supply of lithium and cobalt. (a fraction required)

Every motorway services needing its own powerstation.

Vehicles that end up being hugely innefficient due to the battery mass required for range.

It'll be really interesting to see how Dysons new EV gets on as hes pumped a stupid amount of cash into developing solid state batteries, however this isnt really an answer as theyre still lithium based and still very heavy.

 

I never saw it that way, just depends on your political slant.

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Air resistance increases with square of velocity - so you'd get there faster but it will take a lot more power.

 

Yes, I can see that.

 

Constructive comment there buddy.

 

I'm happy to drive a diesel car as well as a petrol performance car. I do not want to drive a silent, battery powered vehicle. And if you re-read my posts on this thread, you'll see I've not once said anything against EVs.

Maybe YOU should do some research on range/speed before criticising me.

 

Why not, what is your dislike to electric ?

Looking at what you said re the mileage from your A3 is approx 60 miles a day. More than achievable with an Electric car.

 

Having driven both he Model X & Model S Tesla,

I'd swap in a heartbeat if i could afford to,

Never felt performance like it.

Certainly the future as far as i can see it.

 

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Anyway, EV's are not exactly the best looking cars about.
I passed a leaf last night, and it certainly wasn't blessed in the styling department.
My neighbour has a yaris hybrid thing - fugly.

Each to their own and all that.

 

The '17 model was a bit odd, the '18 is very much more mainstream. It doesn't stand out in a car park, much like in design to the Honda Civic

 

WOW !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...-in-california

 

It should of happened in the UK aswell, lying f@ckers. I wont buy another German car until they remove/compensate the UK.

 

Routinely maintained. Suuuuuuurrrrrreeeee they are.

What could they possibly do with all those vehicles. Not a lot I expect. What a waste.

 

So , would this electric craze have taken off at all without VW / all the rest proabably.

All those cars have to be disposed of and heavy metals dug out the ground in DRC etc - in a hurry .
Think the environmental impact

 

It has certainly helped tip the balance. A much quicker disposal of diesel fuelled vehicles will happen across the world

 

No diesel is not dead, far from it.

There's new NOx reducing tech (ACCT) under development right now that's due on the roads within 5 years.

It's electric that is the deadend in the medium term - it uses too many rare elements that will become increasingly short in supply very soon.

The long term solution is the one proposed decades ago that the Japanese and South Koreans has just started to relaunch: the hydrogen fuel cell.

 

The theory behind hydrogen is good, fuel catalyst producing electric for a motor. The problem is the energy required currently to get liquid hydrogen. This makes it unattractive presently. Battery is leading the way and until Hydrogen is sorted will do so. 5 years for new diesel tech- too late, everyone is already ditching diesel for petrol or electric. Diesel is tainted now, customers will not be easilt swayed to move back to it like they were in the 90's. Those who want to be traditional will use petrol engines

 

Those who buy a direct injected petrol citing dieselgate as the reasoning are idiots.

What do they think a stratified charge engine's main pollutants are? After diesel gate, does anyone think these directed-injected petrol engines will continue to conform to their respective EU emissions criteria for their entire life?

I'll give them a clue; NoX storage cats and sensors don't last and the driver will be faced with one of two situations; an engine that pollutes just like a diesel, or a engine that guzzles fuel like an old fashioned petrol but without the performance or refinement (otherwise known as emergency homogenous operation)! Fail!

 

**** diesels, they freaking stink. Go to London then go to New York, London stinks.

 

A better choice is just don't go to London.

Is a higher salary really worth your health?

New York's nice...for a short holiday...you can take trips round the city on old London Buses

 

I don't do cities if I can help it. London is a **** hole for pollution. New York nearly as bad, just go up a tower and see the brown smog over the whole island. look south east out towards the open sea and it's clear, well much clearer. All the major cities are just the same in the UK and around the world. Beijing the apartments have filtration to help stop the smog entering the property. They don't go outside when it's really bad. Just aswell because they sometimes go weeks without being able to see the sun due to the dense smog. London will go like this unless we get a grip of polluting vehicles.

 

I've been in Beijing during a bad smog out and the apartments most definitely do not have smog filters, well not unless your extremely rich anyway. London is not even comparable to be honest pollution wise.

 

The worst city I visited for pollution was Bangkok, this was at the time when all the tuktuks were 2stroke and running oil-rich mixtures (which in effect causes a fuel-lean mixture, so not only does it increase hydrocarbon emissions, the increased temperatures causes even more NOXs ). That combined with old buses and HGVs and a load of underbones just made it unbearable. I was told by fellow travellers that only place worse at the time was India and probably still is next to China. London doesn't even come close.

 

fyi Andy, that' not quite how H2 works.

there actually aren't as many barriers to rolling it out as some would like us to believe.

 

My son's Girlfriend lived there for 6 years and they did have filters on their apartment . They didn't go outside when really bad .

 

Correct. Hydrogen tech is close to ready but needs the infrastructure.

Also, liquid hydrogen is a great way of storing round the clock renewable power so production costs will fall.

And regarding the death of diesel, there's no significant HGV solution at present, petrol produces higher CO2, EV sales still only made 1.9% of U.K. sales last year so even if sales doubled every year they'd still be less than a third of the (car) market by the time ACCT is fully rolled out.

 

How does london compare now to 1950's and Delhi now !

 

That was coal smog. It was dealt with by the clean air act. I can't see why a similar act to stop the most polluting vehicle from being used now. Pressure from charging extra duty and more stringent MOT with congestion charging for cities. But a specific piece of legislation to force these vehicles off the road would go along way