E10 .........sounds ****e !, you wouldt want to do that by mistake

how long before 98ron disappears

 

Chances are it'll make sod all difference to the average post 1990s supermarket shed. And for more desirable cars there will be ways to convert; I've already replace the fuel rail hoses on my Jag with ethanol friendly hoses and use a water dispersant additive when E5 came in (before I found out Esso supreme+ was still ethanol free).

Older Kias and Hyundai's that used metal fuel tanks were rotting through using E5 anyway (with rust powder making its way to the injectors and screwing them up). Same with Insignias that use mild steel for the fuel filler pipes which would rot regardless of the fuel used.

Went to Mallory Park last week where they were racing pre-war cars that were almost 100 years old and managing ok on current fuels...which is nothing like the Benzine they used to use.

Lawn mowers and old motorbikes on the other hand hate the stuff. My Tecumseh engined Qualcast with its £10 Chinese knock-off carb needs a good shake on the driveway to unstick the float needle that's corroded into the seat after not being used for two weeks! And my Kawasaki would just collect soupy black goop in the float chambers.

 

Gosh I wonder if this is why my 1980 mercury outboard carb is now refusing , i can’t even recall the last fuel I topped up external tank with.

 

Depends on how old the fuel is, what the tank and fuel pipes is made from and the way the tank is vented. As well as if there is any steel, rubber, cork or brass components in there. The water/goop separates in the bottom of the floats and in the fuel tank so thats what gets sucked in first when I try to run it.

One of the carbs off my Kawasaki after a winter lay-up on E5 (I stripped, cleaned and balanced them the previous summer ) : Brass had gone green, including the main and idle jets which had bunged up.

 

presumably 2 stroke ?

i dont think my fuel more than couple years old , but let down 50/1 with oil obvoiusly

i took the carb apart cos wanted it to idle better - fatal

This was after replacing the thermostat - which i discovered was missing ....

havnt touched it for these past 15years save replacing impellor

 

Two stroke but with oil injection so it doesn't use pre-mix.

Can always syphon some fuel from the bottom of the tank into a jar to see what it looks like, or transfer it to another tank to see what's swimming round at the bottom.

 

ill try that thanks

 

Pure EV outsold diesels in the UK last month- pace is gathering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...ds%20by%202035.

 

No getting people out of their petrol cars though ...

 

I suspect that 'EV's outselling diesel' may have something to do with the facts that:

1. Mild hybrid diesels are classified separately from 'just' diesel models, despite the fact that they are a 'hybrid' in the loosest sense, most manufacturers popular diesel models are now MHEV.
2. Many manufacturers are suffering from vehicle shortages but better availability on EV models. I work for Jaguar and the lead times are much shorter for PHEV and EV models, this is because the manufacturers are prioritising these models, not because of demand but so that the 'whole range' CO2 emission figures for all models sold look better at year end (and more importantly save them a fortune in 'fines')

In my part of the world, we are still selling 75% diesel models to private customers, most EV sales are to companies for tax benefits.

 

Any of you with electric vehicles self employed or run one as a company vehicle?

I am just wondering, as self employed it’s straight forward putting in my fuel usage as I pay for it at the pump and get a receipt.

If I were to switch to electric, what do I have to show how much I am spending to charge my vehicle?

If someone has a company car and a fuel card, and they switch to electric, what benefits do they receive for charging their company vehicle at home? Genuine questions, curious to know.

 

You can do it on milage 10k of miles equals £2000 rebate no need to keep receipts if you can prove milage.
Edit : 45p per mile up to 1000k then 20p per there after.

 

And what would I replace either my diesel car or motorhome with which I use either to tow a boat to/from the South West coast? EV's are clearly getting there, but options on a 290mile journey (each way) with the boat and trailer would seem limited, and I'm not aware of any electric motorhomes at all. I still think Hydrogen is the long term solution/winner unless there is a breakthrough in battery technology which seems unlikely.

 

So very true. Some of these mild hybrids are trickling into the workshop at work. They are an utter con and basically a tax avoidance swizz.

Most recent ones I dealt with was the Audi A4 35Tdi MHEV and to be frank you'll be hard pressed to notice any difference to a normal TDi, two obvious things was a box next to the battery and the super expensive 0w-20 oil it runs on. It even carried on idling in traffic, and still had more road noise than a Transit custom (the same fleet operator runs Transits as well, and it's a motorway trip to pickup/deliver...The Custom ply lined van is far less nauseating than a A4 rep mobile on the motorway If only they could map out the throttle lag/delay, they'd be awesome).

 

What is needed is range extended electrics with geofenced combustion engine operation in urban areas. It's kind of getting there but the prime mover is still the combustion engine. It really would be good if it was the other way round like the i3 was, which had the right idea but the tech wasn't there to make it any good.

A constant speed flat twin engine, diesel or petrol as a secondary power could work; it doesn't need to be powerful to maintain speed; You only need about 30bhp to maintain 70mph. And this is exactly what Briggs and Stratton did in the 80's with their prototype hybrid petrol-electric car! (It's on Jay Lenos garage if you're interested).

It's either that or a built in fuel cell to charge the batteries when away from any charging source or to assist a slow/32amp charger

 

So UK's CO2 emissions has now dropped below that of levels emitted in the 1990s. ***

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/...mal/23691.jpeg

BuT wE hAVe A CO2 sHoRtAgE

Couldn't make it up. If only there was a way of filtering CO2 from cars and boilers into soda stream canisters

***I am aware it includes CO2 equivalents, which isn't solely CO2, but inclusive of it

 

My dad used to work for a company called Air Products that used a mahoosive turbo fan to suck in air and then turn it into Oxygen, Nitrogen, Argon, Hydrogen, Helium, CO2 and all the other stuff that makes up air, bottle it and sell it so why are we having a CO2 crisis when there is apparently to much in the atmosphere already?

 

don't worry, they're turning the coal power back on because it's cheaper than gas! With Imperial measurements coming back and fuel rationing, the return to the sunlit uplands of 70's Britain is almost complete!

 

The chuckle brothers have appeared on this thread now

 

With current technology, it would take insane quantities of industrial plants, energy, and reactive agents to directly capture CO2 from the atmosphere in quantities that would halt its current growth-rate in its tracks:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...to-capture-co2

 

Today I have seen for the first time an advantage of electric cars - no queuing at petrol stations because of selfish w****** this country is full of.

 

As soon as I saw the news I thought yep, flids are gonna panic buy, even though the shortage doesn't affect other fuel companies. But it will now as everyone races to the pumps.

They're probably also buying up all the bog roll again

 

As long as I remember, there have been times when I've arrived at a fuel station to find it out of a type, or out altogether. No big deal, move to the next. I'm firmly in the camp that the media are entirely to blame for the last few days, their actions in creating the panic buying were and are nothing short of reckless. It's irresponsible what they've done.

 

i agree, my wife and i went morrisons yesterday expecting to see empty shelves, nothing could be further from the truth, the shelves were stacked and they had everything we needed.
**** the media

 

Is this the smug emoji

 

This is smug

Just wait until they ban combustion engines and everyone starts fighting over charging points or the national grid fries itself when too many 9to5ers plug in at the same time as well as flicking on their heat pumps and kettles after getting home from work.

 

Was only 3 cars i filled up saturday eve , was petrol though - prettty much normal

no dlesel till monday or tuesday though

a lot quicker than plugging in


lol

 

I live in the EU, so no deliver issues and no panic buying here!

 

It happened in France in 2019 during their annual protests season. It also happened in 2017 and 2016 etc (yellow vests etc.).

Last time I got caught up in it it was a protest at one refinery that caused the whole country to panic buy until the stations ran dry, despite there being no actual shortage (other refineries operated normally).

I had to drive through France at the time...but luckily one jerry can and a full tank can get me 700miles which is enough to go the entire length from Spain to UK without refuelling

It was the third time this has happened to me, first time I just took the Bilboa Ferry. The interesting thing is Uk news doesn't always report it (including ferry/tunnel being blocked by protesters).

 

I've lived in Germany for over 20 years, there hasn't been a single case of fuel shortages or panic buying of fuel!

It did happen in the UK a few years ago with blockades of fuel depots IIRC

It's all very well blaming the press for triggering panic buying for reporting the FACT that BP and other fuel suppliers were rationing fuel deliveries due to HGV driver shortages. You could also blame the fuel companies for issuing the press releases to the fact. However you also have to blame Brexit for causing the HGV driver shortage which lead to the need of BP and others to ration deliveries in the first place!