Peedee

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*yawn*, standard police-basher........until he needs them, then it'll be straight on the phone asking for assistance.

I personally have literally no issue with the police. I have a darn sight more respect for the police than I do the fire service, that's for sure. I'm not a copper, not have I ever been a copper, however, my mum takes 999 calls for the police, and, although not without their faults, they're up against it. A combination of budget cuts and general scummy ar$eholes drinking too much (hint hint) makes their job a lot harder than it should be.

gazney101

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My tools were stolen out of my van this time last year, I didn't even bother phoning the coppers.
8 other vans were done the same night in the same area. Some phoned and police came out and said there's not much they can do apart from keep an eye out. The copper actually said to my mate that they know who it is (some lads from a nearby area) the coppers were wrong, however I found out a few weeks later who it was.

I thought about vigilante means but the type of people they are it really wouldn't of been worth the grief that would come of it.
the 3 lads (who are still doing it) are part of a wider gang that branches across the county, the law means nothing to them and they can round up a small army of nasty little ******* in no time. Windows out car smashed up, drive an old banger into your house kind of tactics. I've seen this with my own eyes.

They peddle all the drugs in the area and have protection from the right people.

The ring leaders get raided every month yet find nothing and the ***** just laugh and take the **** out of the coppers.

The cars these people ride around in would make you think they were premier league footballers yet not one of them have had a job since leaving school.

After a night out my mate was walking home and saw a senior member of this gang having what looked like a friendly meeting with a plod in a local school carpark at 5am on a Sunday.

To me, the police are useless.
Infact they're worse than useless, they are a hindrance.
They think they know everything, some are even clairvoyant apparently.

All this and my dear old mam got a speeding ticket for doing 34 in a 30.
Top job plod!
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sunny1989

Agreed.

alcazar

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Not at all.
I narrate what I have experienced, or had recounted to me personally.

You then say it's not happening because you/your force don't do that.

alcazar

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If that's aimed at me, not so.

I am of the demographic that OUGHT to support the police wholeheartedly.
Sadly, I no longer can.

And I ALWAYS look for alternatives before ringing them..

Felix.

And how do you know its them? Or are you wanting to abandon the old 'innocent until proven guilty' thing?
How do you know none of them have ever worked? etc etc etc

Tell your mum to slow down a bit then.

Felix.

No I'm saying that I/we don't do or have not done it.
You seem to imply that because you have witnessed it (or had it recounted to you) that it happens all the time, everywhere.

tarmac terror

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The current NADC, supplied by Northgate - the HO have spent the last 4 or 5 years trying to replace it, have thrown millions at it's replacement and have nothing to show for it but an inherently flawed architecture. They have to keep propping-up the ancient NADC system (I think its about 13 years old now) until a replacement can be found, meanwhile UK forces continue to be deprived of real time alerting and analytical tooling that could have been supplied at a fraction of the cost. The solution employed by the Met as the 'olympic' back office or "National CT ANPR System" is significantly more capable than the current national solution, and is currently in use in over half the UK forces as regional capability, and is capable of interconnection to provide a resilient distributed architecture. The HO & Met want all the data to exist in a 'single version of truth' which if they have their way will see all local forces loose their local ANPR back office, under the auspice that the new (but not fit for purpose) central solution will deliver savings to all forces.

The police innovation fund was rifled to deliver the new replacement a few years ago, after forces were asked to give up their ANPR budget for vapourware and most refused. Any sign of your new solution and the promised advanced analytics? Honestly, I doubt it will ever get delivered, or as usual it will be a heavily functionally reduced version of what was contracted for, with the contractor shamelessly holding out a hand for more money to try to develop it further.

https://www.northyorkshire-pcc.gov.u...national-anpr/

Have a read at your current ANPR strategy it is evident that Messers Mandeville, Kennedy and Winterbourne are not confident the NAS will be delivered quite as it was promised!

Wont discuss further on here, PM if you like.

Fabioso

I think the police do a hard job and I wouldn't want to do it for a living. If you were unfortunate enough to be caught up in some horrible terrorist event and the police arrived with their mp5's and all kitted out to save your backside, you may have a different level of respect for them.

gazney101

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The guy who bought them told me who sold him them. Once he said the name I knew he wasn't lying because the same lad was sitting in a car with his cronies the day before around the corner from my house.
I know the lad well. He bags up paracetamol, chalk, hair and nails phormula in snap packets and sells as grams of cocaine to idiots in bars clubs and pubs and nobody would dare ask for there money back.
he would steal from his own grandmother no problem.
The same lad broke into my next door neighbours shed and stole his motorbike, and I know this because my nextdoor neighbour went to his house and drilled the locks out while he was out and his motorbike was in the kitchen.

​​​​​​When he realised, he messaged my neighbour on social media saying he wanted a grand off him for the bike or he was gonna burn his house down while he and his family were asleep.
he paid.


I live in a village with a population of about 1000 people, 40 percent of this gang are from this village. I went to school with most of them, juniors and comprehensive.

There's half a dozen other pit villages around us and all went to the same comprehensive school, everyone knows everyone.

I know these people very well. I'm even related to one of them.

And my mam is the slowest driver in the history of the world. The one time she goes to fast, there's a plod with a speed gun.

lozgti1

lol. Standard forces response same as estate agents would defend their own.

To all the officers I have upset. Apologies. However, everyone is entitled to an opinion. I just simply have been disappointed in a massive change in the focus and attitude of the police just recently.

I'm sure there might have been directives, shortage of manpower etc etc.

Just saying it is not the force I recognised and respected once upon a time.That's all Anyway, i'll leave it be. My post was only triggered by watching one of those many police documentaries and they were all overly nice to the criminals. Again, apologies to the touchy boys

lozgti1

And no. That is the whole point. They would not be my first port of call

1509joe

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If I could type I could tell you some stories about the most corrupt organisation in the world THE POLICE. They lie make up complete bull**** to basically frame someone so their statistics look good and who is the Judge taught to believe even if there is no evidence or fabricated evidence THEM. Their sneaky good for nothing a******es. If something involves work or a bit of danger they run the other way. Seen it been involved in it and watched people get prosecuted knowing for a fact it wasn't or couldn't of been them. Scumbags every single one of them.

1509joe

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Just to add 90% of it is a money making exercise.

Felix.

So, you're including me in that statement then?

And how is it a money making exercise?

Felix.

You expect us to just wind them up to the point they all just kick off?

And are these the 'criminals' who have just been arrested - so have not been found guilty at court yet. So they might be completely innocent and you expect us not to be nice to them for the sake of it.

1509joe

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Would be if you are or were one. Once a policeman always a policeman. Money making exercise is go out prosecute as many generally law abiding citizens for trivial misdemeanours to bring in funds for the every bit as corrupt Government we have.

Felix.

So, you're taking things into your own hands and not involving any police. Burglary, blackmail, threats to kill, handling stolen goods, PWITS carry jail terms - but you prefer to tackle this in your own way without informing police. That's fine, you just can't blame the police for lack of action if none of this was reported.


Obviously not, or she wasn't on that particular stretch of road.

Felix.

I don't collect or gather funds. I work on emergency response and have no targets to collect or make any amount of money. I also don't have any targets to 'bag' as many motorists as possible.

Where does your 'money making' ethos fall with sudden deaths, missing from homes, mental health emergencies, domestic abuse, alarm activations, child abuse etc etc

1509joe

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As I say once a policeman always a policeman night now I'm away to my cell.

salsa-king

have I missed the bit about Police retiring just at 50 and getting huge lump sums and final salary pensions.... that mere morals could only dream about?


Other than that, I couldn't deal with the nesbits that the police have to deal with day in day out.

madscoob

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last one i had dealings with was told
behave son i am old enough to be your dad and it's SIR to you not mr ? and while you are at it just because you have a few hairs around your mouth, doesn't entitle you to talk like one , treat me with contemp and you will get it back, he soon calmed down and was more polite
trafic plod are the worst think they know it all he was told to go and read the 1988 rta properly before he try's bothering me again

lozgti1

Felix, there are gentle ,police by the book officers like you. But I much prefer the honest Gene Hunt kind. I really do Not the follow the book officers. Real,proper police officers. Not the desk job statistic kind

Felix.

You mean the corrupt ones who grabbed anyone off the street and forced a confession out of him, innocent or not - it doesn't matter?

Felix.

lol - where have you been? That's all changed, no retiring at 50, no huge lump sum and no final salary pension.
I'm due to go at 60, although that might change and increase. Its average earned pension but we also pay about 15% of our salary into it. We also pay for our own works insurance in case we get inured on duty.

A lot of people I know are on non-contributory pensions and are set to come out with more.

Martin2005

I'm not sure that 'miserable old twonk' is a demographic

Peedee

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What makes you think you should be called 'sir'? Do you have a knighthood? Queens commission perhaps? Thought not. Unless you have one of those (and even then, I'd struggle to refer to Rod Stewart as 'sir), nobody deserves to be called Sir.

You calling him 'son' because you're older than him and then telling him to go and read the 1988 rta makes you sound like one of those idiots you see on 'road wars'. Perhaps if you hadn't of been driving like a **** in the first place, you wouldn't have been pulled. But let me guess, you got pulled for absolutely no reason, right?

alcazar

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Nope...I say it happens.

Your response is always, "Well, I've never seen it..." as if that makes it OK.

Who cares if it goes on everywhere? If it happens at ALL it's disgusting.

alcazar

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Oh, the irony....and that from a plod who supports the current anti-speeding scammers.

Yoiu couldn't make it up. Now I know coppers are thick.

alcazar

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Ah...our resident insulter with no arguments is here.
Hi Martin. did that make you feel better?