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Old 04 June 2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Time for more candlelit vigils, hashtags and more PC liberal BS. That's show them
i wonder how long it will be before they target a vigil ?
Old 04 June 2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Just for the record, Joz, I think this has everything to do with religion, but that's a bit like blaming politics for the tens of millions murdered at the hands of National Socialism and Communism during the 20th Century. I think we have to be more specific. The religion here is Islam and more accurately Sunni Islam. To break that down further the perpetrators were almost certainly Salafist and within that branch we are dealing with Jihadi Salafists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism

I'm a little disappointed you didn't engage your brain on this one, Joz.

Here's me discussing it 7 years ago:

https://www.scoobynet.com/863727-swe...ml#post9763961

lol I wasn't (necessarily) agreeing or disagreeing...

I was ONLY pointing out to Peedee that you'd already posted, that's all* (as I guessed who Peedee was referring to).

That's it. No 'agenda', here.


You know me JT, I don't (usually) do online 'arguments'.


* But I understand how my post 'looked'

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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Just for the record, Joz, I think this has everything to do with religion, but that's a bit like blaming politics for the tens of millions murdered at the hands of National Socialism and Communism during the 20th Century. I think we have to be more specific. The religion here is Islam and more accurately Sunni Islam. To break that down further the perpetrators were almost certainly Salafist and within that branch we are dealing with Jihadi Salafists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism

I'm a little disappointed you didn't engage your brain on this one, Joz.

Here's me discussing it 7 years ago:

https://www.scoobynet.com/863727-swe...ml#post9763961
everything to do with religeon spot on cause of all evil in one way or another try reading this then ,
While Corbyn seems to be saying that Britain's foreign policy is the reason the United Kingdom is being targeted by Islamists, this view seems to be at odds with what the Islamists themselves have said. The Islamic State's propaganda magazine, Dabiq, explained perfectly clearly: "The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam, and there is the problem THEY HATE US AND WON'T CHANGE NO MATTER HOW MUCH TALKING PRAYING AND HAND WRINGING YOU ALL DO

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Originally Posted by joz8968
lol I wasn't (necessarily) agreeing or disagreeing...

I was ONLY pointing out to Peedee that you'd already posted, that's all (as I guessed who Peedee was referring to)*

That's it. No 'agenda', here.


You know me JT, I don't do online 'arguments'.


* But I understand how my post 'looked'
Old 04 June 2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
everything to do with religeon spot on cause of all evil in one way or another try reading this then ,
While Corbyn seems to be saying that Britain's foreign policy is the reason the United Kingdom is being targeted by Islamists, this view seems to be at odds with what the Islamists themselves have said. The Islamic State's propaganda magazine, Dabiq, explained perfectly clearly: "The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam, and there is the problem THEY HATE US AND WON'T CHANGE NO MATTER HOW MUCH TALKING PRAYING AND HAND WRINGING YOU ALL DO
Solution?
Old 04 June 2017, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Solution?
stop fvcking about and deport or imprison the known 23000 that are known to hate us, simples if other countries can do it why can't we ?
Old 04 June 2017, 11:39 AM
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Exactly, how hard can it be? England to scared to do anything.
Old 04 June 2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
stop fvcking about and deport or imprison the known 23000 that are known to hate us, simples if other countries can do it why can't we ?
As soon as we're free from the EU Human Rights Convention we'll be able to, but until then liberals have got their back.
Old 04 June 2017, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
As soon as we're free from the EU Human Rights Convention we'll be able to, but until then liberals have got their back.
There is no such thing as the "EU Human Rights Convention". There is, however, the European Convention on Human Rights, which is nothing to do with the EU, and was originally proposed by that well-known liberal lefty Winston Churchill. The signatories of the convention are members of the Council of Europe, which the UK joined decades before joining the Common Market. Our leaving the EU will not affect our membership of the Council Of Europe.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
As soon as we're free from the EU Human Rights Convention we'll be able to, but until then liberals have got their back.
true thier time will come, the libtards will run out of fingerprints sooner or later
Old 04 June 2017, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
There is no such thing as the "EU Human Rights Convention". There is, however, the European Convention on Human Rights, which is nothing to do with the EU, and was originally proposed by that well-known liberal lefty Winston Churchill. The signatories of the convention are members of the Council of Europe, which the UK joined decades before joining the Common Market. Our leaving the EU will not affect our membership of the Council Of Europe.
I'm aware of that, however Teresa May had previously stated leaving the ECHR would be central to her 2020 campaign (this was before calling the early election), so we can assume moves will be made to leave this in the near future.

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Old 04 June 2017, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
stop fvcking about and deport or imprison the known 23000 that are known to hate us, simples if other countries can do it why can't we ?
Deport them where?
Old 04 June 2017, 12:52 PM
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omfg you would never march would you left left left just don't work .
any country that will take them, if not all of them to the last main isis stronghold
Old 04 June 2017, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
omfg you would never march would you left left left just don't work .
any country that will take them, if not all of them to the last main isis stronghold
So you'd consider giving a load of enemy combatants to the enemy or intern 1000s of Muslims for thoughtcrime. This is your solution?
Old 04 June 2017, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
So you'd consider giving a load of enemy combatants to the enemy or intern 1000s of Muslims for thoughtcrime. This is your solution?
By the looks of this thread, the internment camps will be for the 'liberals'!
Old 04 June 2017, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
So you'd consider giving a load of enemy combatants to the enemy or intern 1000s of Muslims for thoughtcrime. This is your solution?
oops sorry did i forget the mention bombing the hell out of the stronghold after dropping them off, violence is the only thing these things understand, trying to reabilitate then just isn't going to work, bit like pedophiles 96% of them have been proven to be incapable of changing thier ways
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
By the looks of this thread, the internment camps will be for the 'liberals'!
whats the problem we allready have thought police on here
Old 04 June 2017, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
By the looks of this thread, the internment camps will be for the 'liberals'!
Gypsies, gays..
Old 04 June 2017, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
oops sorry did i forget the mention bombing the hell out of the stronghold after dropping them off, violence is the only thing these things understand, trying to reabilitate then just isn't going to work, bit like pedophiles 96% of them have been proven to be incapable of changing thier ways
Again, return violence with violence - great solution.
Old 04 June 2017, 01:14 PM
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Oh, looks like backup has arrived
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Oh, looks like backup has arrived

Pete, you can be such a dick sometimes.


So far on this thread you've barely mentioned Islamic terrorism, extremism etc. But instead used this as an excuse to flog your old hobby horse about liberals. I find this fairly shameful.


I suggest you switch off Fox News (which you've starting parroting), and go out into the real world.
Old 04 June 2017, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Solution?


Mental asylums specifically for Jihadists.

To condone random and indiscriminate killing of individuals via suicidal acts should tick enough boxes to satisfy that these people are mentally unwell. To certify them insane is the least we can do. We already have fairly good policies in place for incarcerating mentally unwell people if they are considered a risk.

It's a policy that liberals would find hard to argue against (although they are the champions of arguing against any political policy); You cannot have someone with insane beliefs being allowed full freedom on the principal of free speech/thought. Those principals can only ever be valid for people of sound mind.

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Mental asylums specifically for Jihadists.

To condone random and indiscriminate killing of individuals via suicidal acts should tick enough boxes to satisfy that these people are mentally unwell. To certify them insane is the least we can do. We already have fairly good policies in place for incarcerating mentally unwell people if they are considered a risk.

It's a policy that liberals would find hard to argue against (although they are the champions of arguing against any political policy); You cannot have someone with insane beliefs being allowed full freedom on the principal of free speech/thought. Those principals can only ever be valid for people of sound mind.
as the mp's say HEAR HEAR
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Mental asylums specifically for Jihadists.

To condone random and indiscriminate killing of individuals via suicidal acts should tick enough boxes to satisfy that these people are mentally unwell. To certify them insane is the least we can do. We already have fairly good policies in place for incarcerating mentally unwell people if they are considered a risk.

It's a policy that liberals would find hard to argue against (although they are the champions of arguing against any political policy); You cannot have someone with insane beliefs being allowed full freedom on the principal of free speech/thought. Those principals can only ever be valid for people of sound mind.
Are they insane though? They are simply doing what they believe their religion / god wants them to do, but they interpret it in a different way to other people.....what's insane about that? To us they are insane, but in the eyes of Allah, they are doing the right thing, and there of thousands of other muslims who think the same. Yes, there are thousands of muslims who are the opposite, but then they would be considered 'insane' by the extremists. That's the fundamental problem with religion, it's completely open to interpretation, and unless Allah pops his head through the clouds and tells it exactly how it is (can't see it happening), nothing will change.

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Mental asylums specifically for Jihadists.

To condone random and indiscriminate killing of individuals via suicidal acts should tick enough boxes to satisfy that these people are mentally unwell. To certify them insane is the least we can do. We already have fairly good policies in place for incarcerating mentally unwell people if they are considered a risk.

It's a policy that liberals would find hard to argue against (although they are the champions of arguing against any political policy); You cannot have someone with insane beliefs being allowed full freedom on the principal of free speech/thought. Those principals can only ever be valid for people of sound mind.
Well, at least Madscoob thinks this is a good idea.
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Insanity, legally speaking is defined as someone with an inability to comprehend right from wrong.

Rational thought would say killing random people indiscriminately in the name of a "God" can never be justified as right no matter how you try and argue it. It's up there with Hitler's genocide. Was Hitler sane? People have argued that for years, but tell me this, what rational person could justify killing indiscriminately and as being the "right" (sane) thing to do?

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Insanity, legally speaking is defined as someone with an inability to comprehend right from wrong.

Rational thought would say killing random people indiscriminately in the name of a "God" can ever be justified as right no matter how you try and argue it. It's up there with Hitler's genocide. Was Hitler sane?
Have you read the Qur'an?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
By the looks of this thread, the internment camps will be for the 'liberals'!
Nah the camps will be for those who threaten our way of life, so quite a few of our more right leaning members will be off too.
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Had to suppress a wry smile when Mrs. May placed the blame for these attacks on "Islamist extremists". She can't say Salafists of course, because that indicts Saudi Arabia to whom she sells billions of pounds worth of arms. Look up Wahhabism and you'll find it and Salafism are synonymous and are being spread across the globe by the House of Saud's petrodollars. Next time you fill up your Scoob, remember you're funding terrorism. Welcome to the merry-go-round.
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London terror attack: Donald Trump’s aides ‘discussing UK trip to show solidarity’


Trump just gets weaker with every passing week

What has the second amendment anything to do with us

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