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Old 27 May 2017, 09:13 AM
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Ah right , I'm getting the feeling yo didn't get beyond 'o' level . Starting make sense
Old 27 May 2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
And...what's your point? What relevance does that have, if it is even true?
It's shows that what the edge said was true (to some extent) and that you were wrong.

Originally Posted by Kwik
I'll stick to my original opinion. That those of 'higher education' are generally thick.
Common sense is all well and could but if you don't have the intelligence to use it properly then it's just as wasted as being hyper-intelligent with no common sense.
Old 27 May 2017, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
It's shows that what the edge said was true (to some extent) and that you were wrong.


I asked what relevance it has, even if true!? I'll redirect you back to my first paragraph of post 201.

And I notice you've chosen to ignore Alcazar's question about the validity of the statistics.

You're just like all the other thickos in your NSR clique: you think you're very clever, but you're actually incredibly stupid; you ignore or deny facts; and when somebody asks you a question that highlights how clueless you are, you either ignore it or respond with something completely non-sensical, like your post above.

You've been exposed and you know it! Now answer my question or post on this thread no more.
Old 27 May 2017, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy


I asked what relevance it has, even if true!? I'll redirect you back to my first paragraph of post 201.

And I notice you've chosen to ignore Alcazar's question about the validity of the statistics.

You're just like all the other thickos in your NSR clique: you think you're very clever, but you're actually incredibly stupid; you ignore or deny facts; and when somebody asks you a question that highlights how clueless you are, you either ignore it or respond with something completely non-sensical, like your post above.

You've been exposed and you know it! Now answer my question or post on this thread no more.
I just told you what relevance it had to the conversation. You claimed the edges statement was "desperate remoaner garbage", in reality there was a survey reported in one of the papers that showed people with higher levels of education tended to vote remain. So your initial statement was incorrect. Is that enough relevance for you now?

As for ignoring Alcazars question, it didn't need discussing anyone with half an ounce of intelligence knows the ins and outs of dealing with statistical data. So it really didn't require discussion.
Old 27 May 2017, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
I just told you what relevance it had to the conversation. You claimed the edges statement was "desperate remoaner garbage", in reality there was a survey reported in one of the papers that showed people with higher levels of education tended to vote remain. So your initial statement was incorrect. Is that enough relevance for you now?

As for ignoring Alcazars question, it didn't need discussing anyone with half an ounce of intelligence knows the ins and outs of dealing with statistical data. So it really didn't require discussion.
Nope, you still haven't answered what relevance it has. See first paragraph of post 201.

I think I need to reinstate my self-imposed abstinence of posting on NSR; debating with thickos is exhausting!
Old 27 May 2017, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
Nope, you still haven't answered what relevance it has. See first paragraph of post 201.

I think I need to reinstate my self-imposed abstinence of posting on NSR; debating with thickos is exhausting!
Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
And since when has level of education been a criterion in determining whether somebody is deemed fit to vote? How democratic!

The first paragraph of post 201, that statement that nobody made yet you chose to get yourself all upset over anyways.
Old 27 May 2017, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Doesn't change the fact there's a statistical correlation between level of education/age and how they voted.
Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
What relevance does that have, if it is even true?
You've managed to go round in circles twice now, yet you STILL haven't answered the question. WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE???
Old 27 May 2017, 08:10 PM
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Christ alive you make this difficult







http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034

Here's the graph and the source with its analysis. Yes it's the BBC but you can find it from other sources to. So from the data available the statement made by Mrtheedge2u2 is true.
Old 27 May 2017, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Christ alive you make this difficult
Mange tout, Rodney, mange tout.

I didn't say prove it, show me the data. I asked for the RELEVANCE, as in... So what? What's your point? Why bring this up? What are you implying by stating this? That the vote of a less educated person is worth less than the vote of a more educated person? That the political views of more educated people are right and those of less educated people are wrong? Or maybe that less educated people shouldn't even be allowed to vote?

But then you know this is what I meant. And this is obviously what you were implying, which is why you've done everything you can to avoid answering the question, because you realise it was a vacuous thing to say. And don't go round in circles again by saying some nonsense like "if that's what you want to read into it".

Look, I'm not personally offended. I'm more than satisfied with my level of education. I just think it's an incredibly ignorant, arrogant, and undemocratic attitude. I also think making such a crass comment smacks of desperation, which was my original point.

Like I said, you've been exposed!
Old 27 May 2017, 11:07 PM
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oh for **** sake.
Old 12 June 2017, 11:53 AM
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Lucid.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/06...-of-a-fantasy/
Old 12 June 2017, 03:47 PM
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Nope, just more American fantasists.
Old 12 June 2017, 04:17 PM
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Apparently it was junkers who asked her to get confirmation she was doing the right thing by the countries people pulling out

And well, obviously , we've seen what the answer is
Old 12 June 2017, 04:50 PM
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With the results of the French parliament first round elections yesterday being overwhelming for Macron and his Pro-EU and EU reform policies and the FN even more disastrous results, it looks like the EU is far from falling apart, but rather coming together to to reform and strengthen the union.

If Brexit has achieved anything, it has focused the remaining 27 member states and their people to see the good sides of the EU and realise the negative sides of not being a member. Reform was certainly needed, and now it also looks like its coming!

Perhaps the more prevalent question for this thread... "Is the UK falling apart?"
Old 12 June 2017, 05:03 PM
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The worst turnout in more than 60 years for the French elections. They are turning their back on politics. Macron will be judge on how he can turn around the French economy, or he sells it all to Germany in ever intertwined EU project.
Old 12 June 2017, 05:18 PM
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As much as Marine emplored young to actual vote

They still didn't vote for her ?
Old 12 June 2017, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Nope, just more American fantasists.
Finton O'Toole is not American

lol,
Old 12 June 2017, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Ah right , I'm getting the feeling yo didn't get beyond 'o' level . Starting make sense
I'm 37, no o levels I don't think they existed 'when I were a lad'. But it's spelt 'you' not 'yo'. I did learn that.

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Old 12 June 2017, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
It's shows that what the edge said was true (to some extent) and that you were wrong.



Common sense is all well and could but if you don't have the intelligence to use it properly then it's just as wasted as being hyper-intelligent with no common sense.
I have the intelligence to know the phrase is 'all well and good'. Common sense certainly isn't your strong point either.
Old 12 June 2017, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Deeply and depressingly so. Good find
Old 13 June 2017, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Finton O'Toole is not American

lol,
No, an Irishman writing for an American publication...so American fantasies.
Old 13 June 2017, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I have the intelligence to know the phrase is 'all well and good'. Common sense certainly isn't your strong point either.
Thanks for your contribution, it was nice of you to point out a spelling mistake in a post from 3 weeks ago.
Old 13 June 2017, 08:49 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fintan_O%27Toole


Part time contributor "American fantasist"

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Old 13 June 2017, 08:56 AM
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Finally it's happening. After a year of belligerence, sound bites and spin, I'm starting to hear the Brexiteers talk about taking into account the views of the half of the country that didn't vote for this madness.


Is sanity breaking out?
Old 13 June 2017, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Finally it's happening. After a year of belligerence, sound bites and spin, I'm starting to hear the Brexiteers talk about taking into account the views of the half of the country that didn't vote for this madness.


Is sanity breaking out?
Nah, I think its more to do with the reality of less money in their pockets slapping them in the face!
Old 13 June 2017, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Finally it's happening. After a year of belligerence, sound bites and spin, I'm starting to hear the Brexiteers talk about taking into account the views of the half of the country that didn't vote for this madness.


Is sanity breaking out?
Just the remain camp now to get their head out of the sand, but that'll never happen.
Like a child kicking and screaming on the floor until it gets its own way.
Old 13 June 2017, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Just the remain camp now to get their head out of the sand, but that'll never happen.
Like a child kicking and screaming on the floor until it gets its own way.

Having your voice heard is a bad thing?
Old 13 June 2017, 10:58 AM
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I'm not sure its actually sunk in at all yet that we wont get free trade without open borders
Old 13 June 2017, 11:08 AM
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Of COURSE we won't. Now go and have a lie down.

What part of "this is the politicians posturing, the trade is done by big business, who won't posture, but NEED agreement" are you not understanding, pray tell?
Old 13 June 2017, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Of COURSE we won't. Now go and have a lie down.

What part of "this is the politicians posturing, the trade is done by big business, who won't posture, but NEED agreement" are you not understanding, pray tell?

Only the other day you said you wanted us to go to WTO rules, make your mind up



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