Is the EU falling apart?
15 June 2017, 03:36 PM
#271
If you find a doer-upper being done, 7/10 Brits, 2/10 Dutch, 1/10 German.
I don't know of ANY done up by French. Not within 20 miles of me, anyway, which area I know well.
16 June 2017, 09:20 AM
#273
Scooby Regular
lol, this boll0x has even been trashed by Brexiteers - over 3 months ago
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86417
the EU referendum blog is run the avid Brexiteers for the last 40 yaers
and even they think Burrage is talking nonsense
"In an extraordinarily botched effort, even by his standards, Michael Burrage has again produced a Civitas report, this one purporting to show that, for the UK in the forthcoming Brexit negotiations, "it's quite OK to walk away" from a deal. Trading under WTO rules, he asserts, "is an acceptable solution for the UK".
To reach this astonishing conclusion, Burrage has to undergo quite remarkable intellectual contortions, comparing the export performance of countries with bilateral deals to those which, he says, trade only under WTO rules.
The point, of course, is that his selection criterion for the supposed countries trading under WTO rules is flawed. Burrage assumes that any country that does not have what he calls a "bilateral trade treaty" with the EU (and he identifies 111 of them) necessarily trade only under WTO rules.
Manifestly, this is not true, and at two levels. Firstly, Burrage is imprecise in his use of terminology, referring to the term "bilateral trade treaty" when he actually means "regional trade agreement", specific types of trade treaties which parties notify to the WTO. Such treaties involve the reduction of tariffs and quotas and must encompass "substantially all trade".
Secondly, Burrage is working on the false assumption that such trade treaties are a binary issue – that in terms of trade, countries either enjoy regional trade agreements or they have no agreements at all and therefore trade only under WTO rules. In other words, Burrage posits an "all or nothing" scenario.
In fact, according to the EU treaty database, the EU has concluded 928 bilateral and 263 multilateral agreements with countries throughout the world, making 1,191 in total. Of these, 440 are trade agreements or deal with trade-related matters. "
and it goes on
the WTO option is a nonsense that only the thick or clinically insane regard as advantageous to the UK trading
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86417
the EU referendum blog is run the avid Brexiteers for the last 40 yaers
and even they think Burrage is talking nonsense
"In an extraordinarily botched effort, even by his standards, Michael Burrage has again produced a Civitas report, this one purporting to show that, for the UK in the forthcoming Brexit negotiations, "it's quite OK to walk away" from a deal. Trading under WTO rules, he asserts, "is an acceptable solution for the UK".
To reach this astonishing conclusion, Burrage has to undergo quite remarkable intellectual contortions, comparing the export performance of countries with bilateral deals to those which, he says, trade only under WTO rules.
The point, of course, is that his selection criterion for the supposed countries trading under WTO rules is flawed. Burrage assumes that any country that does not have what he calls a "bilateral trade treaty" with the EU (and he identifies 111 of them) necessarily trade only under WTO rules.
Manifestly, this is not true, and at two levels. Firstly, Burrage is imprecise in his use of terminology, referring to the term "bilateral trade treaty" when he actually means "regional trade agreement", specific types of trade treaties which parties notify to the WTO. Such treaties involve the reduction of tariffs and quotas and must encompass "substantially all trade".
Secondly, Burrage is working on the false assumption that such trade treaties are a binary issue – that in terms of trade, countries either enjoy regional trade agreements or they have no agreements at all and therefore trade only under WTO rules. In other words, Burrage posits an "all or nothing" scenario.
In fact, according to the EU treaty database, the EU has concluded 928 bilateral and 263 multilateral agreements with countries throughout the world, making 1,191 in total. Of these, 440 are trade agreements or deal with trade-related matters. "
and it goes on
the WTO option is a nonsense that only the thick or clinically insane regard as advantageous to the UK trading
Last edited by hodgy0_2; 16 June 2017 at 09:22 AM.
