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Old 20 March 2017, 10:54 PM   #61
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So you buy cars just to look at them then? Isn't driving the main point when it comes to buying these type of cars and what makes us car enthusiasts? If I was looking to buy something pretty to sit on my driveway/garage, a Subaru wouldn't even make it on the list. I can understand wealthy collectors buying specific cars and keeping them in storage as 9 times out of 10 they drive something exotic as their daily. If you're a collector, money is no object. You can buy anything you want no matter what the price is. For us mere mortals, money matters.

I'm a car enthusiast; I know the Impreza (not only the 22B) is an iconic car, hence why I bought my first one many years ago.
And there it is - "an iconic car".
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Old 21 March 2017, 12:12 AM   #62
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We know the IMPREZA is an iconic car not JUST the 22B. None of you guys know WHY 22Bs command silly prices. I guess I could buy one, resell by plucking a figure out of the air and some mope will buy it 'bcoz its a 22b innit?'
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Old 21 March 2017, 08:56 AM   #63
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The old car market is a strange thing. Some cars are worth far more than they should be. Mk1 escorts are crap but now worth loads. Vw campers are terrible but get a mint early one and it's getting on for 50k.
People who were teenagers in in the 90's are the ones who now have the money to buy the cars that they dreamed of at the time and the Impreza was the king of the rally world and the street then. The 22b is the ultimate classic Impreza and is very limited in numbers so will command a high price.
Yes the price for this one (150k in total) seems excessive but is justified by its history and mileage and will only help drive the price of 22bs and other imprezas, mainly 2 doors at first but then others like ra's rb5's etc up.
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Old 21 March 2017, 09:01 AM   #64
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Eh??

We know exactly why they command such high prices, because we understand the market for them.

I'll spell it out yet again - it's a bespoke model that's based on a WRC winning rally car. History shows these cars always appreciate massively in value. But the crucial part is the global appeal - not just one country.

It's got **** all to do with whether it's any better than any other car you want to compare it to.
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Old 21 March 2017, 10:20 AM   #65
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Thing with items of value, is that it's a perceived value, at a particular moment or period of time.

It [can] transcend rationale.
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Old 21 March 2017, 11:34 AM   #66
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Eh??

We know exactly why they command such high prices, because we understand the market for them.

I'll spell it out yet again - it's a bespoke model that's based on a WRC winning rally car. History shows these cars always appreciate massively in value. But the crucial part is the global appeal - not just one country.

It's got **** all to do with whether it's any better than any other car you want to compare it to.
The wide body 22B chassis never won a WRC Championship.

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Old 21 March 2017, 12:26 PM   #67
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The wide body 22B chassis never won a WRC Championship.


True, but the 22B is probably still the most iconic Subaru WRC car.
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Old 21 March 2017, 12:29 PM   #68
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The wide body 22B chassis never won a WRC Championship.
No , but they did win WRC events , mine won Argentina in 99
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Old 21 March 2017, 03:01 PM   #69
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Seems to good to be true surely ?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01703203478494
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Old 21 March 2017, 07:23 PM   #70
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Not really on a UK Pooh.5 engine.
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Old 21 March 2017, 07:23 PM   #71
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No , but they did win WRC events , mine won Argentina in 99
and I have touched it.

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Old 22 March 2017, 02:11 AM   #72
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Why are they priced substantially higher than a type R, P1 or any other special/limited production model? The way some people harp on about the 22B, you'd think it was light years ahead of any other variant Subaru have produced. I just want to know WHY people think they're worth 100k+? I have nothing against people desiring to own one, just want to get to the bottom of why people think they're worth 5x more.
it call "market forces", supply and demand my friend
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Old 22 March 2017, 03:08 AM   #73
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Seems odd as you say. Low miles too and car data wrong - 296bhp etc. Scam?
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:08 PM   #74
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Seems odd as you say. Low miles too and car data wrong - 296bhp etc. Scam?
Pooh.5 about to sh*t it's pants.
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:26 PM   #75
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The guys lost his licence and is after a quick sale beastie. Someone will snap that up if it's the real thing.
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:31 PM   #76
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If he lost his licence he has all the time in the world to sell it. Seems a little suspect to me.
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:52 PM   #77
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I though exactly the same brownpants. The advert isnt very good to be honest
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Old 23 March 2017, 02:39 PM   #78
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for less than half the price found one for sale in Japan

http://auction.pacificcoastjdm.com/s...id=225363130&s

Huge mileage though and still going to be 70K landed in the uk
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22B with 25k miles sold at auction in Japan this morning for hammer price of 87k.

About 115k imported to UK.
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22B with 25k miles sold at auction in Japan this morning for hammer price of 87k.

About 115k imported to UK.
It was actually just over 77k hammer price (11,280,000y) but still over 100k landed in UK if its coming over here..
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I didn't actually look at the yen price, just the conversion on Japan Partner
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Old 14 May 2017, 08:39 AM   #82
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it call "market forces", supply and demand my friend
Actually it's called ''speculative asset price bubbles''

See also ''Tulip Bulbs'' and ''Railway Mania'' for other examples and how things pan out.

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A little slow to the thread today
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