STI Brembos vs HiSpec 6 pots vs K-Sport 8 pots??
28 October 2016, 07:03 PM
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Best thing to do to get a good balance is to fit a bias valve, which you can adjust to suit various setups and driving styles. Although your limiting factor is then the rear brakes
Hope this helps!
28 October 2016, 07:18 PM
#34
Is is not the opposite of what you are saying, as the clamping force is a result of applied force divided by area, so the hi-spec has the smallest pad area, then brembo etc.
Best thing to do to get a good balance is to fit a bias valve, which you can adjust to suit various setups and driving styles. Although your limiting factor is then the rear brakes
Hope this helps!
Best thing to do to get a good balance is to fit a bias valve, which you can adjust to suit various setups and driving styles. Although your limiting factor is then the rear brakes
Hope this helps!
The brembos with effective heat managment generate one of the best clamping forces, if you can remove the heat from the caliper they are one of the most effective brake set ups out there.
28 October 2016, 07:40 PM
#36
And you will be good to go
,the Brembo caliper is a very good unit once you set them up properly and can be used into the 500bhp+ power range without much complications once set up right as above.SJ.
29 October 2016, 09:27 AM
#44
Brembos are proven on big power cars, Joe and Ade (Stone Jedi) both have alot of experience of this. You arent running enough power to need big brakes...
29 October 2016, 10:55 AM
#48
I'm a worrier. I just have to make sure I'm 100% happy with something before I commit.
I also didn't say that spending that sort of money isn't normal, just that I want to be completely sure I'm not missing a better option because once I buy those bits then that's it, I'm committed for at least the next six months. I'm sorry if that's rubbed anyone up the wrong way.
Currently only running about 330bhp but it's a forged 2.1 so there's definite 400-500bhp plans ahead. The power is kind of irrelevant though, it's getting the big heavy beast to stop quickly and consistently during track use that I'm interested in. I haven't ruled out the Brembos at all.
29 October 2016, 11:24 AM
#49
Bigger brakes arent going to change that? Infact discs and pads are going to be more expensive for the other styles of caliper.
Brembos are proven on big power cars, Joe and Ade (Stone Jedi) both have alot of experience of this. You arent running enough power to need big brakes...
Brembos are proven on big power cars, Joe and Ade (Stone Jedi) both have alot of experience of this. You arent running enough power to need big brakes...
If I stay Brembos will the two piece Godspeed discs be good enough or do I really need PF?
Last edited by Jay Cartay; 29 October 2016 at 11:26 AM.
29 October 2016, 12:07 PM
#52
The clamping force/torque is significantly less on the k sports etc compared to the brembo calipers you have.
If you have less braking torque the brakes are not as effective.
The reason why brembos fail or are not up to scratch is because they are a white alloy and suffer majorly with heat. With big cast rotors, alloy calipers etc the caliper acts as a heat soak which in turn heats the fluid and induces fade.
However with effective heat management they are better than most of the other calipers put there.
The only advantage with k sports etc is better heat disappation, so they will manage the temperature better, but you will have overall less braking torque. However you can lean on them harder for longer...
The downsides with cheap brake kits like k sports, they sucker you in with cheap initial costs, then when you need spares its almost as expensive as buying another whole kit.... they also mainly lack dust seals and some other important parts... You will find that on 8 pots etc the front on the pad wears alot faster than the rear due to the lay out of the pistons it is not possible to get full braking torque on the full face of the pad.
29 October 2016, 12:35 PM
#54
The difference with ap etc is spares are a 1/3rd lf the price and they have dust seals etc.
Even 6 pot aps do not give the same braking torque as the brembos. BUT, as with the k sports etc they will deal with elevated temperatures better for longer.
You either spend out for decent stuff or upgrade the brembos. For cost effectiveness I would be upgrading the brembo and maybe looking at driving style so you hit the brakes less and arent covering them etc while cornering. Progressive braking will help reduce heat as opposed to one stamp on the brakes into the corner
29 October 2016, 12:58 PM
#55
JGlanzaV any more advice and you will need to charge him Lol...To the OP you have been given a full explaination of how brakes that you have enquired about work with the right disc and pads set up,in all honesty their is not really much that can be added.....All the best with your final decision.SJ.
29 October 2016, 01:01 PM
#56
JGlanzaV any more advice and you will need to charge him Lol...To the OP you have been given a full explaination of how brakes that you have enquired about work with the right disc and pads set up,in all honesty their is not really much that can be added.....All the best with your final decision.SJ.
Is yours finished yet?
29 October 2016, 01:01 PM
#57
You wont get APs or alcons for 600 notes though.
The difference with ap etc is spares are a 1/3rd lf the price and they have dust seals etc.
Even 6 pot aps do not give the same braking torque as the brembos. BUT, as with the k sports etc they will deal with elevated temperatures better for longer.
You either spend out for decent stuff or upgrade the brembos. For cost effectiveness I would be upgrading the brembo and maybe looking at driving style so you hit the brakes less and arent covering them etc while cornering. Progressive braking will help reduce heat as opposed to one stamp on the brakes into the corner
The difference with ap etc is spares are a 1/3rd lf the price and they have dust seals etc.
Even 6 pot aps do not give the same braking torque as the brembos. BUT, as with the k sports etc they will deal with elevated temperatures better for longer.
You either spend out for decent stuff or upgrade the brembos. For cost effectiveness I would be upgrading the brembo and maybe looking at driving style so you hit the brakes less and arent covering them etc while cornering. Progressive braking will help reduce heat as opposed to one stamp on the brakes into the corner
29 October 2016, 01:18 PM
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