ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

NTSB will find out. But it's a good example of what happens if the rebar is not up to job.

^Qwerty^

When I was a school Governor I recall the funding for each child being around the 5-6k area. Different areas of the country receive different funding and this has been raised and discussed in parliament more than once. No idea what the higher funding rates are, but I know my area (East Yorks) was one of the lowest in the country. Looks like that is being fixed or broken depending on your POV.

https://fullfact.org/education/spend...hools-england/

I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where if you put your child through private education, you can 'opt out' and take the 5-6k and make up the difference yourself? Not really Brexit related, but an interesting concept and question anyway. By removing your child from state education, the schools lose the child payment, but you still pay the same tax and council tax, so where does the money go?

Dingdongler

But why import more poor people?

dpb

Let them eat cake , who needs poor people at all

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...m-over-russian

lozgti1

Just kill this thread. Give me the dignitas number. Never read such utter tripe from armchair warriors

ray54

Martin2005

Isn't that the wrong question?

Dingdongler

Seriously? Do you ever answer the question when it doesn't suit your rigid agenda?

Let me spell it out for you again.

We live in a society which means those who by luck or skill do better in life pay more tax so that the others can have a chance to catch up ie free healthcare, education, help with housing etc.

And thats exactly how it should be.

However, what is the point of allowing more unskilled people into the country who are a net drain on resources? And then complain that our infrastructure is failing?

I'm sorry but even my 10 year old son would tell you that it's a recipe for economic failure and social strife.

I'm sure you see it as well, but you just can't bring yourself to admit it....because all immigration is good, right?

hodgy0_2

can you provide a source for that claim

thanks

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

simples just check in your local benefits office and see how many languages all the forms are printed in, that aint cheep now throw in a few translators get the picture,

dpb

You're a regular then presumably Madscoob ?

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

presumption is the mother of all fvck ups no ime not as it happens clever b0llocks i left school at 15 and am now 52 and have never signed on, i had to take my 22 year old autistic son in for a pip interview, there are claim packs there in so many languages its like a airport

Martin2005

Surely the question here should be. At a time of technical 'full employment', how many unskilled migrants does the economy need?

The NHS argument is a red herring. Our aging population is causing the strain on its resourcing not largely young and healthy migrants.

Martin2005

What does that prove?

dpb

id suggest he's frustrated with tory gov welfare fcukups

madscoob

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our ageing population are the ones that have paid tax and ni all thier lives not the immies on min wage and zero hours contracts picking up child benefit and childrens tax credit, i can tell you now if you have 3 kids and get min wage you will get more cb than you pay in tax in a 4week period, so the only immigrants that could possibley contribute are the single ones who are working not going to the doctors,etc and not using any goverment services

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

it proves immies cost local services EXTRA MONEY you donkey do you have any idea how much a local goverment translator earns, OH WAIT A MINUTE THERE SHOULDN'T BE THE NEED FOR THEM BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOU AND SEVERAL OTHERS ALL IMMIES WORK AND CONTRIBUTE

Martin2005

which is a very large proportion of migrant workers

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

CORRECT asking a autistic person to attend a pip interview WTF is that all about ? the questions they ask are fvcking stupid a few examples as follows
CAN YOU CATCH A BUS
WHAT IS THE PLANET WE LIVE ON CALLED
after answering the world daniel was told no the other name daniel repled earth
SHE THEN ASKED CAN YOU SPELL THAT WORD BACKWARDS
WHAT IS 7 AND 9 daniel replied numbers not 16
get the picture

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

when was the last time you went to the doctors then ? sit in the waiting rooms and listen to the conversations taking place

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

so if a very large percentage of them are working WHY THE NEED FOR TRANSLATORS IN THE BENEFITS OFFICE THEN ?

Martin2005

For those that aren't obviously

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

CORRECT and because of that they can't afford people trained to deal with people with mental health issues, see my post about PIP questions and the person asking them, when she asked him about getting on a bus i said love a monkey could get on a bus, but wouldn't know what stop to get off at, what sort of a question is that

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

Yes, the whole PIP thing is a total mess, unfair, and cruel. Thing is, this is not because immigrants are draining resources (they aren't, and there's plenty of figures and statistics to show this). It's because we have a Tory government that is incompetent, and actively chooses to treat people in this way. And it suits them that people in your unfortunate situation wish to blame their predicament on "immies" rather than their political doctrine and failures.

Dingdongler

Can you provide robust evidence that proves otherwise? And I'm not talking GDP measurements, because any fool knows that's flawed in this context.

Dingdongler

Just because you keep saying that there are statistics and figures to show that 'recent' immigrants aren't a net drain on resources doesn't make it true.

Please show all of us the robust stats that prove that the millions who have come over here in the last ten years pay more in tax than they take out.

I'm pretty sure you can't. As I said to Hodgy, an increase in GDP proves nothing.

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

Perhaps you could show all of us the robust stats that prove the opposite? And then correlate them with the gov's implementation of PIP assessment?

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

well its not hard to do is it
anyone immigrant or not with kids on min wage don't pay thier way the cb and ctc per 4 weeks will be more than they pay in tax and ni now throw in housing benefit for good measure plus free school meals and bus, i could post up a copy of my wage slip but for the sake of argument tax 122.40 and ni 114.41 thats on a wage of 1625.45 per month 1625.45 devided by 21x8 (no of working days in month = 9.67 per hour i can tell you the cb and ctc is more than i pay in tax and ni and as you can see i aint on min wage, so how the hell can someone on min wage with kids be paying thier way

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

So how many immigrants are on minimum wage and have kids then? What about the ones who are fit and young earning good money? What about the ones who are running businesses and employ people? What about the ones who are working for the NHS? In my area, there are lots of skilled EU citizens working at GKN, Airbus, Rolls Royce, and the NHS, earning very good money, filling vacancies that exist due to a skill shortage.

dpb

Stand to reason though ,immies are only here to milk the system else they'd just stop off in France , presumably