So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
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And don't be silly, please....those factories in the ex-Communist countries employ skilled workers. The ones coming to the UK are mainly UN-skilled and now take the jobs our job-starters used to do..hence the problems with youth unemployment. Which, surprise, surprise, THOSE countries don't have
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And what about all the money the EU gives to the UK to help with infrastructure and creating jobs in the UK? Wales, Cornwall, Scotland, NI all other regions the UK government cares nothing about all receive a huge amount of EU funding! Its not all about Eastern European countries getting money, we get money too, for exactly the same reasons, its just our press forgets to tell us about it!
You also shouldn't forget how many British people go over to Poland, Romania or other Eastern European countries to help build up their infrastructure! I'm not talking about the low cost manual labour here, I'm talking about civil engineers, architects, interior designers etc. all highly paid and bringing money back to the UK!
Your short-sightedness is often astounding!
You also shouldn't forget how many British people go over to Poland, Romania or other Eastern European countries to help build up their infrastructure! I'm not talking about the low cost manual labour here, I'm talking about civil engineers, architects, interior designers etc. all highly paid and bringing money back to the UK!
Your short-sightedness is often astounding!
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Would one of you super clever Brexiters tell me how NI/Eire can have a seem less border?
Just as an example a VAT registered UK trader currently charges VAT to non-registered companies in the EU. But after Brexit the EU will then have the status of being "foreign" and exports will be VAT free. So many goods in Eire will be 20% cheaper. And what about other items that carry a lower tax rate in EU such as booze and ****?
And a stop to Free Movement seems to have been swept under the carpet and johnny foreigner is free to come to NI and then UK mainland and join the black economy.
But fortunately Brexit is just too complicated to ever happen. Pity we can't put a stop to it and stop wasting our time
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Just as an example a VAT registered UK trader currently charges VAT to non-registered companies in the EU. But after Brexit the EU will then have the status of being "foreign" and exports will be VAT free. So many goods in Eire will be 20% cheaper. And what about other items that carry a lower tax rate in EU such as booze and ****?
And a stop to Free Movement seems to have been swept under the carpet and johnny foreigner is free to come to NI and then UK mainland and join the black economy.
But fortunately Brexit is just too complicated to ever happen. Pity we can't put a stop to it and stop wasting our time
David
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...-gets-12765100
Look, that bloody EU funding projects in Wales, taking away good English jobs while the Welsh come over here taking jobs away from the English youth!
Look, that bloody EU funding projects in Wales, taking away good English jobs while the Welsh come over here taking jobs away from the English youth!
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...-gets-12765100
Look, that bloody EU funding projects in Wales, taking away good English jobs while the Welsh come over here taking jobs away from the English youth!
Look, that bloody EU funding projects in Wales, taking away good English jobs while the Welsh come over here taking jobs away from the English youth!
Hmm according to that Wales got £680million per year
What did it say on the side of that battle bus?
"Let's find Wales for a year with a few weeks worth of EU destined money?"
#facetious
( IIRC the "adjusted" figure was about £200million a week. So we could fund these Welsh projects with a month of EU cash
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Hmm according to that Wales got £680million per year
What did it say on the side of that battle bus?
"Let's find Wales for a year with a few weeks worth of EU destined money?"
#facetious
( IIRC the "adjusted" figure was about £200million a week. So we could fund Wales with a month of EU cash
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What did it say on the side of that battle bus?
"Let's find Wales for a year with a few weeks worth of EU destined money?"
#facetious
( IIRC the "adjusted" figure was about £200million a week. So we could fund Wales with a month of EU cash
)
The question is, where is the money going to come from to fund all the new import/export control that we need in our ports?
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Would one of you super clever Brexiters tell me how NI/Eire can have a seem less border?
Just as an example a VAT registered UK trader currently charges VAT to non-registered companies in the EU. But after Brexit the EU will then have the status of being "foreign" and exports will be VAT free. So many goods in Eire will be 20% cheaper. And what about other items that carry a lower tax rate in EU such as booze and ****?
And a stop to Free Movement seems to have been swept under the carpet and johnny foreigner is free to come to NI and then UK mainland and join the black economy.
But fortunately Brexit is just too complicated to ever happen. Pity we can't put a stop to it and stop wasting our time
David
Just as an example a VAT registered UK trader currently charges VAT to non-registered companies in the EU. But after Brexit the EU will then have the status of being "foreign" and exports will be VAT free. So many goods in Eire will be 20% cheaper. And what about other items that carry a lower tax rate in EU such as booze and ****?
And a stop to Free Movement seems to have been swept under the carpet and johnny foreigner is free to come to NI and then UK mainland and join the black economy.
But fortunately Brexit is just too complicated to ever happen. Pity we can't put a stop to it and stop wasting our time
David
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Well, we could, but all that money is already going to fund the NHS! ...and the farming subsidies! ...and the fishing subsidies! ...and paying off the DUP! ....fixing social housing problems! ...funding all those (previously EU funded) science projects!
The question is, where is the money going to come from to fund all the new import/export control that we need in our ports?
The question is, where is the money going to come from to fund all the new import/export control that we need in our ports?
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Well, we could, but all that money is already going to fund the NHS! ...and the farming subsidies! ...and the fishing subsidies! ...and paying off the DUP! ....fixing social housing problems! ...funding all those (previously EU funded) science projects!
The question is, where is the money going to come from to fund all the new import/export control that we need in our ports?
The question is, where is the money going to come from to fund all the new import/export control that we need in our ports?
I thought Herr Boris made it perfectly opaque in his quasi-Latin mumblings that all the EU money wasn't going on the NHS LOL
Anyway we are funding the NHS(regardless of its state) now whilst still in the EU, aren't we? That's about £2.4 billion a week for this year.
That's; Three times the yearly Welsh/EU spending done in just one week! That makes the Welsh funding pale even into more insignificance! Just where is the current money comming from to fund the NHS?
As for import/export controls, needed it now more than ever whilst still in the EU; the fraud that is going on (and has been for decades) is costing us dearly; The EU wants €2 billion off us (UK) for our gross ineptitude toward fraudulent activity in regards to fraud originating in China.
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the government arguing for continued FOM and basically the status quo !!!!!! lol
like watching children trying to draw a 4 sided triangle
I loved the interview with Brokenshire (NI Minister) where he carefully explained what the EU wants
forgetting they have already said the UK proposals are a fantasy
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And what about all the money the EU gives to the UK to help with infrastructure and creating jobs in the UK? Wales, Cornwall, Scotland, NI all other regions the UK government cares nothing about all receive a huge amount of EU funding! Its not all about Eastern European countries getting money, we get money too, for exactly the same reasons, its just our press forgets to tell us about it!
You also shouldn't forget how many British people go over to Poland, Romania or other Eastern European countries to help build up their infrastructure! I'm not talking about the low cost manual labour here, I'm talking about civil engineers, architects, interior designers etc. all highly paid and bringing money back to the UK!
As is your utter stupidity.
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I'm going to float some questions; Myself as a boarder line remain voter (due to our own politicians), but EU sceptic (due to the EU leaderships)....
For the vocal Remainers on here; What are your opinions of the likes of Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk? Are you happy with them in their positions and their attitude or general ability? Are they the representation of "modern" politics despite their behaviour or political history?
For the vocal Remainers on here; What are your opinions of the likes of Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk? Are you happy with them in their positions and their attitude or general ability? Are they the representation of "modern" politics despite their behaviour or political history?
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I'm going to float some questions; Myself as a boarder line remain voter (due to our own politicians), but EU sceptic (due to the EU leaderships)....
For the vocal Remainers on here; What are your opinions of the likes of Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk? Are you happy with them in their positions and their attitude or general ability? Are they the representation of "modern" politics despite their behaviour or political history?
For the vocal Remainers on here; What are your opinions of the likes of Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk? Are you happy with them in their positions and their attitude or general ability? Are they the representation of "modern" politics despite their behaviour or political history?
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I can see Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary etc wanting to break away from the EU at the current rate. So far they've been bought by the EU, receiving more out than they put in, but these are countries that won't fcuked over so easily like Western European ones and they're pretty clear they will not back down to the EU's threats;
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...-civilizations
One of the comments on this article gets it spot-on with regards to the EU
Poland, along with Hungary, the Czech Republic, Romania, and Slovakia have firmly rejected the so-called refugee quotas, deepening East-West cracks in the 28-member bloc.
Brussels has threatened legal action against the dissenting countries, filing a formal “infringement procedure” in June which could result in financial penalties imposed by the European Court of Justice.
Brussels has threatened legal action against the dissenting countries, filing a formal “infringement procedure” in June which could result in financial penalties imposed by the European Court of Justice.
One of the comments on this article gets it spot-on with regards to the EU
Unfortunately, this entire generation of Europeans has been raised on the vision of a European Union as a Utopia that would end sectarian conflict, ensure lasting peace in Europe, and raise the European standard of living generally. They have been taught that this grand scheme, centered in Brussels, is the culmination of 1500 years of attempts to reunify Europe. It is to be a new Rome: greater in glory and splendor than Old Rome. Unfortunately, most of the young people in Europe have sold their souls to this vision and believe that to be moral is to be "cosmopolitan." They are slowly beginning to realize that outside Old Europe, the world is still filled with many tribes who do not share their Utopian cosmoplitanism and are interesting only in deriving whatever benefit they can from European prosperity for themselves and their groups.
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What would you expect though, from the kind of conspirt@rd who frequents a website described on the world's most popular online encyclopaedia as follows:
"Economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman describes Zero Hedge as a scaremongering outlet that promotes fears of hyperinflation and an "obviously ridiculous" form of "monetary permahawkery."[17] Krugman notes that Bill McBride of Calculated Risk, an economics blog, has treated Zero Hedge with "appropriate contempt."[18]
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
"Economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman describes Zero Hedge as a scaremongering outlet that promotes fears of hyperinflation and an "obviously ridiculous" form of "monetary permahawkery."[17] Krugman notes that Bill McBride of Calculated Risk, an economics blog, has treated Zero Hedge with "appropriate contempt."[18]
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
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What would you expect though, from the kind of conspirt@rd who frequents a website described on the world's most popular online encyclopaedia as follows:
"Economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman describes Zero Hedge as a scaremongering outlet that promotes fears of hyperinflation and an "obviously ridiculous" form of "monetary permahawkery."[17] Krugman notes that Bill McBride of Calculated Risk, an economics blog, has treated Zero Hedge with "appropriate contempt."[18]
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
"Economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman describes Zero Hedge as a scaremongering outlet that promotes fears of hyperinflation and an "obviously ridiculous" form of "monetary permahawkery."[17] Krugman notes that Bill McBride of Calculated Risk, an economics blog, has treated Zero Hedge with "appropriate contempt."[18]
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
You sound like you're in the same 'just can't face up to reality' boat as dpd!
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Any brexiteers on this thread feel like pitching in to help bail out these guys?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...loss-260-jobs/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...loss-260-jobs/
They sound a bit like that "pink wafer" company that also tried to pin "Brexit" on their woes!
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Take a trip to Companies House and see how they have been making a loss (e.g. £319,726 in 2015, and whilst having a FOUR MILLION POUND overdraft!) for a while now - and well before "Brexit" was on the cards.
They sound a bit like that "pink wafer" company that also tried to pin "Brexit" on their woes!
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They sound a bit like that "pink wafer" company that also tried to pin "Brexit" on their woes!
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They may have run-ins with Brussels, like many countries do, even Germany and France, but they would never leave the EU for a myriad of reasons. None of which any educated person would find difficult to list.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41010705
Welcome step in the right direction. Cue Remain voters up in arms and desperate to try and talk down the UK as usual.
The government recorded a budget surplus last month for the first time since 2002 as more money came in from self-employed tax receipts.
July saw a surplus of £0.2bn, compared with last year's deficit of £0.3bn.
July saw a surplus of £0.2bn, compared with last year's deficit of £0.3bn.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41010705
Welcome step in the right direction. Cue Remain voters up in arms and desperate to try and talk down the UK as usual.
Welcome step in the right direction. Cue Remain voters up in arms and desperate to try and talk down the UK as usual.
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They're currently being sued by the EU for refusing to accept refugees, or is that just a bit of normal banter with the EU, just a bit of friendly suing other members, happens all the time