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Old 15 July 2017, 06:14 AM
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Exactly, a non story, but which you made out was a major problem.

Open office in Austria, get license, paper transfer planes, carry on as normal. Its not like Easyjet, ryan air, BA are going to park all their planes in Austria or any other European country.

It merited a tiny sky news piece where by Ryan air said we are just covering the bases for worst case, so they already have factored in this. like I said non story, usual remainer clutching at anything that looks easy to do and making a huge issue.

UK leaving the EU
Old 15 July 2017, 07:43 AM
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It is; If you consider the finances of its former owner "Sir" Stelios and his tax avoidances strategies - having never been a UK resident. I'd would presume most of EJ's financial operations are also overseas in the usual tax havens.

So baring employment; of which there is a massive gap between workforce and executive (as highly publicised) what does EJ give to the UK economy?

Anyone care to divulge how much tax they pay or in which country they lodge their funds? £49million.....of which £161million is deferred...

This not an attack on EJ; they are not unique in this.

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Old 15 July 2017, 07:47 AM
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Team UK with England at the head of the table... experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Old 15 July 2017, 10:24 AM
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Hardly it will create 20 administration jobs in Austria. Eu operates like a cartel, if more than 50% shareholders aren't European you cant have license. Easyjet didnt see this as an issue.

This all coming from the most pro EU paper in the UK
Old 15 July 2017, 12:16 PM
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Will it all have been worth it Andy for you ?


All for regaining a chunk of perceived sovereignty , only
Old 15 July 2017, 12:23 PM
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I presume hard line brexiters are still of frame mind that EU Will collapse without us
Old 02 August 2017, 05:09 PM
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Poorer by the day ...


Never mind that, we get our sovereignty back , right
Old 02 August 2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
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Poorer by the day ...


Never mind that, we get our sovereignty back , right
Could. We will have to wait and see
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all the usual protagonists deep into their continental summer sojourn , exclusive beach resort or chateaux no doubt
Old 02 August 2017, 09:58 PM
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Stupid EU didn't have break clause in the lease so signed up for 20years. They will have to pay the rent
Old 03 August 2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Stupid EU didn't have break clause in the lease so signed up for 20years. They will have to pay the rent
Not really stupid, I'm sure they got a much better rental deal in a prime central London location than they would have got otherwise and I'm sure nobody ever envisaged that the UK would be stupid enough to leave the EU!
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Originally Posted by wrx300scooby
Could. We will have to wait and see
Why does it have to move? simply put it doesn't, they are choosing to move it so they can foot the bill not us.
Old 03 August 2017, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Why does it have to move? simply put it doesn't, they are choosing to move it so they can foot the bill not us.
Are you high? You cannot reasonably foresee nor expect a central EU agency to be head quartered in a non-EU territory.

I spoke to a friend who works for the EMA today and they stated the opinion is that the EMA is forced to leave the property due to the direct action of the British government who acted in an informed manner of the consequences of the EMA and EBA and as such Britain are liable for the funding. Such as if the government came and told you that you have to leave your house due to a motorway being built through it, the government are liable for financial compensation.
Old 03 August 2017, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Are you high? You cannot reasonably foresee nor expect a central EU agency to be head quartered in a non-EU territory.

I spoke to a friend who works for the EMA today and they stated the opinion is that the EMA is forced to leave the property due to the direct action of the British government who acted in an informed manner of the consequences of the EMA and EBA and as such Britain are liable for the funding. Such as if the government came and told you that you have to leave your house due to a motorway being built through it, the government are liable for financial compensation.
Difficult to work out whether they are thick or simply hopelessly naïve

I Suspect both tbh
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Difficult to work out whether they are thick or simply hopelessly naïve

I Suspect both tbh
They're not necessarily thick as many have a reasonable education, also not sure it's even possible to be that naive in modern society... Sadly it's how I arrived at my conclusion that 'Most people are stupid'... plain and simple... if you need proof just look at social media... I'd go so far as to say a very large percentage are 'blithering idiots' sad times, I'm in total despair for the future of mankind.

I forget the name of the movie, but it has a man and a woman frozen and they wake up a hundred years later... in a world where they try to grow food by feeding it Gatoraid... that's where we're headed.

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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Not really stupid, I'm sure they got a much better rental deal in a prime central London location than they would have got otherwise and I'm sure nobody ever envisaged that the UK would be stupid enough to leave the EU!
Yes it was really stupid, With such a long lease, you would normally have several break clauses. My business partners lease has several breaks on a 7 year term
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Not really stupid for the EMA, in reality, as they are not going to be the ones who end up paying the rent. But I doubt it would be long term as I am sure other tenants would easily to found as it is prime location.

The British Government (all parties) knew that the EMA and other EU institutions would need to leave and as such things like costs related to this should of been looked into and established prior to the referendum
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Piece of cake these Brexit negotiations!
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They are negotiations, this means generally two parties, who have to sort out differences of opinion to come to some common, if possible agreement. From the EU's side they are frustrated because the UK has not rolled over and capitulated-rightly so. The UK has made certain propositions, which the EU dont like-so what, that is the UK decision and the EU need to make some constructive counter proposal.

Next few weeks will see some more details in papers being made public. I expect the EU to complain that they don't agree, but that is what a negotiation is.

If the two parties cant agree a deal, then we leave officially March 2019, fall back onto WTO, which will be part of the process anyway, because both the EU and UK have to submit what tariffs they are going to impose on various goods, if any at all. Being part of the WTO ensures trading bodies cant impose punitive tariffs against others. So its in the EU and UK to have very low to zero tariffs.

The UK leaving the EU is moving along, just ignore the hysterical news about every little step.

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Originally Posted by andy97
They are negotiations, this means generally two parties, who have to sort out differences of opinion to come to some common, if possible agreement. From the EU's side they are frustrated because the UK has not rolled over and capitulated-rightly so. The UK has made certain propositions, which the EU dont like-so what, that is the UK decision and the EU need to make some constructive counter proposal.

Next few weeks will see some more details in papers being made public. I expect the EU to complain that they don't agree, but that is what a negotiation is.

If the two parties cant agree a deal, then we leave officially March 2019, fall back onto WTO, which will be part of the process anyway, because both the EU and UK have to submit what tariffs they are going to impose on various goods, if any at all. Being part of the WTO ensures trading bodies cant impose punitive tariffs against others. So its in the EU and UK to have very low to zero tariffs.

The UK leaving the EU is moving along, just ignore the hysterical news about every little step.
You seem to be missing (ignoring) the point of that article that the UK government can't agree among itself what sort of deal/Brexit they want, so can't even begin to negotiate with the EU. The article is not based on complaints from the EU but from government insiders!

The government had the best part of a year to get its strategy together before enacting article 50. They then wasted several valuable months with an unnecessary election which left them in a weaker position and now they're under pressure from the more moderate conservatives (who outnumber the hard-line leavers) and the DUP to make concessions from their previous plans.

Its an almighty ****-up of the biggest order and the clock is ticking fast! Falling back to WTO rules would be a complete disaster for the UK. Burying your head in the sand and taking a keep calm and carry on attitude really just shows how little you understand about the impact of Brexit across the board! Bit its OK, we'll be able to get rid of those bloody foreigners and thats the most important thing!
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That is the press interpretation. Wouldn't sell many papers without sensationalism

We already trade with the rest of the world on wto, it's not some new system we have to adopt, get a grip. Your beginning to sound like.
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If you go to WTO rules then everything from decent cars to cheese to bacon is gonna be A LOT more expensive.

If I was the EC I would say if you want WTO rules then no problem. I would also impose visa only travel into mainland Europe

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Tariffs on German vehicles wont be excessive if at all, they sell too many to the UK. Visa travel is already here for the rest of the world, £15 for the USA 2 years or something last time I applied. Other countries have the same. No big deal for EU visa

Don't forget, the UK could then buy cars from the rest of the world or food products from other countries currently disadvantaged by the EU's closed cartel tariffs. Opportunities are out there if the EU decides it doesn't want to have a fair deal with the UK

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I expect the outcome will be we pay something to be part if the free market, immigration rules will be in line with the rest if the world, eu courts won't have a say in the UK and I'm gov won't have a say in the EU. Rest are just minor issues in the grand scheme and will work themselves out.

There's alot of scaremongering and panic for no reason, neither side wants it can afford a no deal.
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Originally Posted by andy97
Tariffs on German vehicles wont be excessive if at all, they sell too many to the UK. Visa travel is already here for the rest of the world, £15 for the USA 2 years or something last time I applied. Other countries have the same. No big deal for EU visa

Don't forget, the UK could then buy cars from the rest of the world or food products from other countries currently disadvantaged by the EU's closed cartel tariffs. Opportunities are out there if the EU decides it doesn't want to have a fair deal with the UK
You'll have to forgive me, who are we going to buy cars from that we don't already?
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
I expect the outcome will be we pay something to be part if the free market, immigration rules will be in line with the rest if the world, eu courts won't have a say in the UK and I'm gov won't have a say in the EU. Rest are just minor issues in the grand scheme and will work themselves out.

There's alot of scaremongering and panic for no reason, neither side wants it can afford a no deal.
FFS you still don't get it do!!!!

being part of the free market comes with accepting the four freedoms (people, capital goods and services) overseen by the ECJ

the EU won't move on these - they said so during and after the vote - NO CHERRYPICKING

the single market is not a menu of options (this was all explained during the referendum debate)

we may have "access" to the single market, but then again so does Bhutan and Burkina Faso through to Zanzibar and every country in between

the EU simply regards them as "Third Countries" like what the UK will be on the 1 April 2019 - to understand what this means simply read the following Brexit supporting blog post

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86387

any other solution i.e. EEA or EFTA (aka the Norway solution) will involve accepting most of the EU rules and also FOM and also paying for the privilege

in fact we will "PAY but have no SAY"
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