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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 07:35 AM
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Brexit was a great excuse for him to put his prices up though
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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 09:30 AM
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Never mind, at least the NHS is getting £350 million a week 👍
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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 11:57 AM
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It's hard to know who to really believe on this story. Is it credible that the Telegraph of all papers would suddenly (and secretly) pivot to a pro-EU immigration stance, after the endless amounts of spin they've put into bigging up the benefits we've all supposedly been enjoying of finally being "free of our shackles"? Definitely a case of an enigma wrapped up in a mystery, cleverly concealed inside a conundrum.

You shouldn't look at media outlets based on if they are left/right in/out etc. But more so what a desperate hack can cobble together and get a headline that can garner more views. Call it for what it is; Idle gossip to fill the columns.

Its click bait in the end of the day. Sure some outlets are more blatant than others however they are all at it. There are very few outlets that just stick to factual reporting; Reuters and the Financial Times would be the better of the bunch. Yes I would have expected better of the Telegraph, but like BBC news they tread a path of being over reliant on syndicated news without proper checks.

As an aside this article whilst unrelated to brexit shows the workings of journalism and specifically mentioned the Telegraph reporting syndicated news but adding 'a bit extra' (in this case the estimated value of a house of family whose child accidentally died in tragic circumstances) which had nothing to do with the actual event. Unfortunately/ironically I've had to paste the link from the Guardian as the original blog no longer exists: https://www.theguardian.com/media/gr...ss-association

But it is a insight to how these hacks can behave and that they really only have their own interests at heart.


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Old Jun 7, 2021 | 10:22 AM
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You shouldn't look at media outlets based on if they are left/right in/out etc. But more so what a desperate hack can cobble together and get a headline that can garner more views. Call it for what it is; Idle gossip to fill the columns.

Its click bait in the end of the day. Sure some outlets are more blatant than others however they are all at it. There are very few outlets that just stick to factual reporting; Reuters and the Financial Times would be the better of the bunch. Yes I would have expected better of the Telegraph, but like BBC news they tread a path of being over reliant on syndicated news without proper checks.

As an aside this article whilst unrelated to brexit shows the workings of journalism and specifically mentioned the Telegraph reporting syndicated news but adding 'a bit extra' (in this case the estimated value of a house of family whose child accidentally died in tragic circumstances) which had nothing to do with the actual event. Unfortunately/ironically I've had to paste the link from the Guardian as the original blog no longer exists: https://www.theguardian.com/media/gr...ss-association

But it is a insight to how these hacks can behave and that they really only have their own interests at heart.
Interestingly, if there were only factual and unbiased reporting, Brexit would have never happened!
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 11:31 AM
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I don't understand the problem, didn't Boris negotiate a magnificent free trade agreement with the EU??

It seems this free trade agreement is a bit one sided. The EU charges tariffs and duty and the UK doesn't The EU dictates what the UK can send to another UK nation. So what has Brexit actually achieved? The EU still dictates what the UK can and can't do but now charges import duty and tariffs aswell.

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-wh...sages-12327870
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 12:57 PM
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I don't understand the problem, didn't Boris negotiate a magnificent free trade agreement with the EU??

It seems this free trade agreement is a bit one sided. The EU charges tariffs and duty and the UK doesn't The EU dictates what the UK can send to another UK nation. So what has Brexit actually achieved? The EU still dictates what the UK can and can't do but now charges import duty and tariffs aswell.

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-wh...sages-12327870
"I think if the protocol continues to be applied in this way then we will obviously not hesitate to invoke Article 16 as I've said before,"
What he means is "if they continue to apply the protocol in the way is was written and negotiated and agreed to by the UK". Brexiteers still trying to blame the EU for problems that are of the UKs own doing!

But of course every Brexiteer knew what they were voting for, so clearly this is the situation they wanted! It's not as if they can say nobody warned them because every single remoaner was warning that you couldn't protect the Good Friday agreement without a soft Brexit, there always had to be a border between RI & NI or NI & UK Mainland, neither of which would be acceptable to one side or the other.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:14 PM
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What he means is "if they continue to apply the protocol in the way is was written and negotiated and agreed to by the UK". Brexiteers still trying to blame the EU for problems that are of the UKs own doing!

But of course every Brexiteer knew what they were voting for, so clearly this is the situation they wanted! It's not as if they can say nobody warned them because every single remoaner was warning that you couldn't protect the Good Friday agreement without a soft Brexit, there always had to be a border between RI & NI or NI & UK Mainland, neither of which would be acceptable to one side or the other.
But if there is a free trade agreement then there is no problem with British sausages entering the EU, so this brings into question the free trade agreement which obviously doesn't exist which is why I was charged over €13 import duty for my USB cable made in the UK.

Last week I shipped an Impreza exhaust back to the the UK with DHL and there was no import duty or customs on it and it only took 4 days from pickup to delivery.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:37 PM
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They think we don’t know what we’re voting for



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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
But if there is a free trade agreement then there is no problem with British sausages entering the EU, so this brings into question the free trade agreement which obviously doesn't exist which is why I was charged over €13 import duty for my USB cable made in the UK.

Last week I shipped an Impreza exhaust back to the the UK with DHL and there was no import duty or customs on it and it only took 4 days from pickup to delivery.
Because the UK wants to lower its standards on food so that they can import chlorine washed chickens and hormone treated beef etc. the EU trade deal has restrictions on imports of certain types of food, which is why there is a problem with the sausages.

For other stuff, there is restrictions of rules of origin which is pretty complicated. In simple terms if stuff is made in the UK it should be tariff free, while stuff that is imported to the UK and then re-sold to the EU, then there will be tariffs. It gets complicated because some things that are "made in the UK" may not qualify as such if they were simply assembled in the UK from components made elsewhere - so in your case, a USB cable may have been assembled in the UK from a cable and connectors imported from China, so it doesn't qualify under rules of origin.

The same is true in both directions, but the UK doesn't have the capacity for controlling imports because they weren't prepared for Brexit, so the UK is currently just waving pretty much everything through from the EU without applying tariffs. The plan is to continue this until the end of the year, but at some point the WTO will take action against the UK because they are essentially giving the EU an unfair advantage over other countries.
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 07:40 AM
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https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...ew-trade-deal/

Another great brexit triumph, a trade deal with Australia which will decorate British farmers, yet no tangible benefits for the UK! Makes about as much sense as brexit.
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 08:03 AM
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Seems to ultimately all be about us belonging to pacific ridge trade group , and China joining in to

then we can flog them our luxury Indian owned range rovers and astons cheap - like if you’re that rich your bothered anyways…

0.02 percent better off in 20 years time as trade deal with Aus surely ain’t worth it !?

Perhaps the Johnsons plan is simply to offload young offenders to Aus
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 01:08 PM
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112 k care vacancies - british jobs for british workers !
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
112 k care vacancies - british jobs for british workers !
Don't forget all the fruit pickers!

Plenty of fishermen and cattle farmers will be looking for work though
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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 09:33 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57518910

So the UK now exports more food and drink products to the rest of the world than it does to the EU! Is that a triumph for Brexit even though exports to the rest of the world haven't really changed but exports to the EU have fallen off a cliff?

No wonder sausages to NI are such a big issue and the UK is now having to beg the EU to extend the grace period!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-57518980

Another win for the amazing Brexit "We knew what we voted for"!
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Old Jun 18, 2021 | 11:02 AM
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Cheap Tim Tams !


( theyre only marginally different to penguins )
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 12:18 PM
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If in doubt call the Army in, they will bail you out as usual.

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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 01:17 PM
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Say goodbye to using your phone on holiday...
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57595913

Didn't take long for the thieving mobile companies to go back on their promises to keep the EU roaming tariffs.

Still, that's the brexit you voted for!
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Say goodbye to using your phone on holiday...
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57595913

Didn't take long for the thieving mobile companies to go back on their promises to keep the EU roaming tariffs.

Still, that's the brexit you voted for!
The EU providers have already started, I have an O2 private mobile and when I asked in the O2 shop about roaming charges when I go to the UK he said yes there will be charges and suggested I get a PAYG sim.
I also have a Vodaphone company mobile and Vodaphone GmbH also said there will be additional charges for usage in the UK, So the EU companies got in there first.

Brexit is fantastic, well done guys I hope it was worth it.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
The EU providers have already started, I have an O2 private mobile and when I asked in the O2 shop about roaming charges when I go to the UK he said yes there will be charges and suggested I get a PAYG sim.
I also have a Vodaphone company mobile and Vodaphone GmbH also said there will be additional charges for usage in the UK, So the EU companies got in there first.

Brexit is fantastic, well done guys I hope it was worth it.
I also have O2, but I have an free option on my contract to limit the amount of roaming data to 2GB in a month and I get Switzerland, Norway and Iceland included - I didn't check yet but I assume the UK will also now be included. Very useful for me here as my phone often switches to Swiss networks!

I seem to remember the Brexiteers dismissing the roaming fees argument as project fear in the past! Now its project reality!
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 09:49 AM
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Another Brexit success story

https://news.sky.com/story/haribo-sw...rtage-12346892
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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Good riddance. Those plastic/rubber sweets have ruined the British sweet industry with their tasteless imports.

Tangtastics... FFS I've had more tang from licking a 9volt battery.


Not one of their products is anything close to what you could get from behind the counter at ye olde paper shop on top t'hill where I'd wear a flat cap with trouser shorts and ride my push bike along cobblestones with the backing music of "going home".



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Was always likely to get sticky !
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Good riddance. Those plastic/rubber sweets have ruined the British sweet industry with their tasteless imports.

Tangtastics... FFS I've had more tang from licking a 9volt battery.


Not one of their products is anything close to what you could get from behind the counter at ye olde paper shop on top t'hill where I'd wear a flat cap with trouser shorts and ride my push bike along cobblestones with the backing music of "going home".

I was actually refering to the 100k empty truck drivers jobs and the lack of training and testing for new truck drivers.
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
I was actually refering to the 100k empty truck drivers jobs and the lack of training and testing for new truck drivers.
This is good news surely, 100K less articulated vehilces on British roads. Freight haulage should be pushed to more rail and distribution locally on smaller vehicles where ever possible.
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
I was actually refering to the 100k empty truck drivers jobs and the lack of training and testing for new truck drivers.
Not sure if continental training is any better when it comes to HGV driver shenanigans....




But yes there is a shortage. And high street retail employees are in surplus. So swings and roundabouts (just check the blind spots on the latter, hence the photo ).

I'm not sure if 'll have a job this time next year as the landlord has jacked up the rent big time; Maybe the nail in the coffin for a family business after over 60years as a limited company.. So considering delivery/logistics as a career change.

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Sound idea , if it wernt that we are an island nation !
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Originally Posted by andy97
This is good news surely, 100K less articulated vehilces on British roads. Freight haulage should be pushed to more rail and distribution locally on smaller vehicles where ever possible.

If only we had built more rail capacity for goods haulage rather than frivolously spending billions to eventually transport more workers in/out of London a tad bit quicker on a fancy fast train!
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
This is good news surely, 100K less articulated vehilces on British roads. Freight haulage should be pushed to more rail and distribution locally on smaller vehicles where ever possible.
There is such a place just outside Selby, but it still needs HGV drivers. I doubt very much that we'll ever have sidings near every town, where goods are dropped off by train and then distributed locally in vans, it's too inefficient. I think the place at Selby is about as 'local' as we'll ever get. So that leaves us with an immediate problem. One of my friends owns a haulage company, the situation is dire. I believe there are 70k drivers on the DVLA database with C or C+E entitlements who don't drive. I'm one of them. It's easier to make a living doing something else, and you don't get treated like ****. For sure Brexit has had an impact, but by far the biggest issue is agencies who pay as little as possible but line their own pockets. If companies paid a decent wage directly to drivers, everyone would be better off. (except the agencies of course).
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How much more freight could the Chunnel tunnel take though
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
How much more freight could the Chunnel tunnel take though
Its seems there are delivery problems across the board in the UK at the moment due to the driver shortage.
I'm just wondering why there aren't hundreds of thousands of unemployed Brits queuing up for these jobs that were previously stolen by all those immigrants?
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