Mr Fuji

That is a truly shocking thing to say, there's lots of very small businesses, literally a few employees, who export to the EU who are simply not in a position to do that, and that avenue is now too expensive for them.

andy97

iTrader: (1)

They should have anticipated some disruption and started developing other markets instead of waiting. The world is available with the internet

mrtheedge2u2

You must be amazed that the world has poverty and that not everyone rocks up to work in a Maybach. Apparently all you need to be a successful entrepreneur is internet.

Mr Fuji

I'm beginning to wonder whether you are just trolling, no one can be that out of touch with reality

andy97

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Hardly out touch, our company prior to 2016 sent relatively small amounts of products to export. With no experience of setting up a foreign subsidiary, the company within 2 years had setup manufacturing base and were selling directly to local companies. That involved making extra machinery (in house) transport ing to new premises and commission new plant. Then there was staff, regulations etc. If we can others can too.

mrtheedge2u2

Guys, you know the T-shirts that say: London, New York, Paris, Milan on them? Well, I am selling T-shirts that will say:

Andy97
Bill Gates
Steve Jobs
Richard Branson
Elon Musk

Putting Andy at top as the others seemed to have struggled more than he did to become powerhouses.

25 quid each. Just drop me a message with the sizes and volumes you need.

coupe_20vt

iTrader: (2)

Just ignore the ****.

andy97

iTrader: (1)

That's quite funny


But you're selling them far too cheap, My name is far more valuable ©®

BMWhere?

Not every small business has the capital to make the changes!

Still waiting for an answer as to why your company couldn't have expanded into Europe without Brexit?

IdonthaveaScooby

Spends lot time on scoobynet for a manager

just like Walter Mitty , pissy lewis .....

andy97

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We probably could have, but it was the catalyst to make the initiative happen. For us, Brexit has been successfully navigated with early action.

I didn't vote for Brexit with business in mind. I was prepared to sacrifice my investment in achieving Brexit ​​​​first. However it was a double win for me

Funny how life twists and turns

Tidgy

no comment about EU deanding to take UK doses of vaccine?

andy97

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Wasnt it the Dutch or Belgium who took a ham sandwich from a Brit.

The British took all the vaccines

Welcome to Brexit

BMWhere?

This story is pretty interesting. The EU bought more AZ doses than the UK and negotiated a lower price. Now AZ is seemingly giving supply priority to those who paid the most (UK). What is really interesting is that AZ pledged to not profit from its Corona vaccine sales, so the big question is why are different countries getting it for different prices if there is no profit?

The fallout from this is that the Phizer vaccine which is manufactured in the EU may be restricted from exporting to the UK, so the UK gets more of the AZ vaccine while the EU gets more of the Phizer vaccine. Given that the Phizer vaccine is the more effective of the two and that the UK is paying more for the vaccine than EU countries, I know which side I prefer to be on!

markjmd

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You just have to laugh:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...odel-6sdz3clfl

Tidgy

My understandings is it's actualy to do with production location. EU wanted it made in the EU, not the UK, now their plants have problems and they want the UK made stuff.

Tidgy

you'd still bang her back door in though wouldn't you

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

At one time I might well have done, but sadly now, thanks to muppets like you who voted for Brexit, that kind of ubergrenzlische Arschverkehr would probably be more hassle than it's worth.

BMWhere?

I think I know her! Should I tell her you're interested?

BMWhere?

Speak for yourself

(nice translation by the way )

BrownPantsRacing

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Depends where the drug is licensed to be manufactured and as we were in the EU manufacturing in the EU and supplying to the EU there are one set of regulations and licensing implications. Once you change process and manufacture outside the EU and importing and the other way around has an impact on all areas of drug manufacture legally from a signing off point of view. This is the reason my wife was made redundant as a QP when the pharmaceutical manufacturing business she was working for cut their losses with various drug ranges post Brexit as it just wasn't worth the cost and paperwork to re-certify. However, you would have thought when developing the vaccines that Brexit was a consideration when applying for licenses, so is more likely to be commercial and transportation issues restricting supply across boarders.

BrownPantsRacing

iTrader: (6)

Oh an unrelated issue I did read that a significant number of British fishing boats are now landing in France to sell their products direct as landing here and shipping across is not viable as it was before.

So all of our British fish we fought so hard to retain are still hitting the EU as normal. Which was always gong to be the case. I thought Brexit was sold on us being more self supportive as a nation and supplying our own produce??? lol.

albob

That's not strictly the case. The British Government got Astrazeneca to manufacture the Oxford vaccine (and bankrolled the setup costs), ordering millions of doses even before they knew whether it would work or not.

They signed the contract with Astrazeneca back in July and approved the vaccine in December :: The EU haven't even approved the vaccine!!

Not surprising, to me, that Astrazenca would supply the UK first....

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BMWhere?

Its not a question of who ordered first or where the virus is made, but a contractual obligation to supply a product within a given timescale.

The EU want AZ to publish the contract in full, but AZ don't want to. It seems they've now agreed to publish a redacted version, but no doubt they will redact all the bits that show they are in the wrong.

The Eu is being pretty open on the subject while AZ is not, who do you think is in the wrong?

albob

"The EU want AZ to publish the contract in full,..." A contract is between two (or more) : AstraZeneca will have a copy and the EU will have their own - why don't they just publish what is in theirs ??

I believe, from what, AZ have said that the contract contains such 'weasel' words as - "best efforts", which gives them wiggle room when production problems have left them with a deficit ..

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Apologies - Just read on line that the contract is 'Confidential' and the EU needs permission from AZ to publish

Wurzel

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"Ramping up the war of words, Ms Von der Leyen told German radio the best-effort delivery clause in the contract was only valid as long as it was not clear whether AstraZeneca could develop a vaccine."

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...chief-12201916

hedgecutter

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I prefer to trust scientists rather than politicians. The buck stops with the politicians, and now the citizens under them are demanding to know why they are so far behind in vaccinating their electorate. Pfizer also have production issues in Europe, but have probably covered themselves contractually, so AstraZeneca is an easier target. Time will only reveal what was contracted, but it doesn't alter the fact that the EU were incredibly late to get organized.

mrtheedge2u2

The delay with AZ vaccine does not bother me too me, personally, as I am the last who will receive the vaccine. What bothers me is the fact that AZ vaccine is simply inferior to others out there.

andy97

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The EU thought AZ UK production sites were still available to them after Brexit

Clearly demonstrates the EU never understood the position of the UK leaving.

Once UK has had all their doses supplied, extra capacity from them can boost European supplies.

mrtheedge2u2

Why would British sites not be available to them because of Brexit?