So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
31 May 2019, 10:18 AM
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I agree that is what should happen, but I think it is unlikely. Both parties have shrunk their memberships, and it would appear that the core is now made up of hard right and hard left, and those people are unlikely to return a centralist leader, to either party. The UK political scene is becoming more polarised, in a time where what is needed is central ground. I can't see how it is going to change in the near future.
31 May 2019, 10:52 AM
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I agree that is what should happen, but I think it is unlikely. Both parties have shrunk their memberships, and it would appear that the core is now made up of hard right and hard left, and those people are unlikely to return a centralist leader, to either party. The UK political scene is becoming more polarised, in a time where what is needed is central ground. I can't see how it is going to change in the near future.
02 June 2019, 10:18 AM
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F88K off you fat **** !
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...te-with-the-eu
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...te-with-the-eu
02 June 2019, 11:53 AM
#4871
F88K off you fat **** !
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...te-with-the-eu
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...te-with-the-eu
02 June 2019, 04:48 PM
#4872
When UKIP got 4 million votes and 0 MPs - and the Scottish National party got 1.5 million votes and 52 MPS!
02 June 2019, 07:16 PM
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Sometimes I feel I've arrived in a parallel universe. How did this country get dumbed down so quickly? The only office Farage has been elected to is as one of several MEPs for the south east. Yet some people think it's ok for him to act as a government minister. Democracy my ****.
04 June 2019, 07:35 PM
#4881
Farage says he wants an insurance based system. His main backer is Aaron Banks, who is in the insurance business. Doh!
Trump comes over here and starts telling us who should be the next PM, and how we should conduct our business with the EU. What price Sovereignty now?
Putin must be hugging himself with glee.
05 June 2019, 09:49 AM
#4884
I notice this morning he has said that the NHS won't be on the table, which illustrates that he will say anything if he thinks it will improve his situation, or that he never really knew what the NHS was....... 
05 June 2019, 02:38 PM
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Love this media talk about Trump and the NHS...like the NHS isn’t reliant on the USA in any shape or form ....
....I never knew the UK NHS did not use USA pharma, USA research, USA pioneered techniques/procedures, USA made equipment or equipment, treatment or drugs made under license that have USA patents.
Next time you have a CT scan have a look at who made the scanner....General Electric (likely a CT660)....didn’t know they were British
........I never knew the UK NHS did not use USA pharma, USA research, USA pioneered techniques/procedures, USA made equipment or equipment, treatment or drugs made under license that have USA patents.
Next time you have a CT scan have a look at who made the scanner....General Electric (likely a CT660)....didn’t know they were British
05 June 2019, 03:05 PM
#4886
Love this media talk about Trump and the NHS...like the NHS isn’t reliant on the USA in any shape or form ....
....I never knew the UK NHS did not use USA pharma, USA research, USA pioneered techniques/procedures, USA made equipment or equipment, treatment or drugs made under license that have USA patents.
Next time you have a CT scan have a look at who made the scanner....General Electric (likely a CT660)....didn’t know they were British
........I never knew the UK NHS did not use USA pharma, USA research, USA pioneered techniques/procedures, USA made equipment or equipment, treatment or drugs made under license that have USA patents.
Next time you have a CT scan have a look at who made the scanner....General Electric (likely a CT660)....didn’t know they were British
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05 June 2019, 03:39 PM
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Indeed, it is/was a UK employer, just like any other worldwide USA owned/managed conglomerate it will have overseas operations. And just like any economic downturn, or uncertainty (like Brexit), those operations will be under threat. It’s a sad state affairs where being in a two year limbo is costing people their jobs. Although before totally blaming Brexit outright , GE is struggling in the USA... over the past 20yrs its worth has shrank from $600billion to just $70billion so it’s no surprise its shrinking its world footprint.
Either way, the UK needs the USA in various areas, including the NHS...it can’t procure everything from within the EU, nor should it be forced to do so.
Does anyone remember the times when GE had a finger in pretty much every UK industry going? These days it seems be Siemens or some sort of Chinese alliance/investor.
Either way, the UK needs the USA in various areas, including the NHS...it can’t procure everything from within the EU, nor should it be forced to do so.
Does anyone remember the times when GE had a finger in pretty much every UK industry going? These days it seems be Siemens or some sort of Chinese alliance/investor.
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05 June 2019, 03:52 PM
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Indeed, it is/was a UK employer, just like any other worldwide USA owned/managed conglomerate it will have overseas operations. And just like any economic downturn, or uncertainty (like Brexit), those operations will be under threat. It’s a sad state affairs where being in a two year limbo is costing people their jobs. Although before totally blaming Brexit outright , GE is struggling in the USA... over the past 20yrs its worth has shrank from $600billion to just $70billion so it’s no surprise its shrinking its world footprint.
Either way, the UK needs the USA in various areas, including the NHS...it can’t procure everything from within the EU, nor should it be forced to do so.
Does anyone remember the times when GE had a finger in pretty much every UK industry going? These days it seems be Siemens or some sort of Chinese alliance/investor.
Either way, the UK needs the USA in various areas, including the NHS...it can’t procure everything from within the EU, nor should it be forced to do so.
Does anyone remember the times when GE had a finger in pretty much every UK industry going? These days it seems be Siemens or some sort of Chinese alliance/investor.
We do need foreign resource for our NHS, we need whatever resource is providing the latest technology and advances in medicine and medical care and that is not going to the the UK now with it's declining sectors. But there is no way our NHS should in any way be run or controlled or even partially owned by the US which is what Trump wants.
07 June 2019, 10:46 AM
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60/40 voted to Leave too.
Only half bothered to vote this time though , clearly not that important to them
Someone ought to tell him, divide and rule only really worked in the colonies.
And we don't have an empire any more!
Only half bothered to vote this time though , clearly not that important to them
Someone ought to tell him, divide and rule only really worked in the colonies.
And we don't have an empire any more!
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