dpb

Bring back the empire

its what the daft old duffers voted for


and down with the hun

Tidgy

you a retard or did you not bother reading the link?

dpb

Apparently the pikey behavour is the only guaranteed method of forcing Eu , to give us everything we want

The Trooper 1815

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According to Parliament prorogating as been going on for years.
Unless others know better.
https://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs...zk0sajB2HgkUfc

hodgy0_2

lol,i did not

and I apologise

but to reiterate - there is no "bill", there is a framework that will drive out a final figure - if we leave with no transition, then clearly the final "bill" is reduced

andy97

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Exactly, it happens every year. A sitting government will prorogue parliament virtually every year for setting out new agenda with a Queens speech. A new government does the same.

This period has been the longest in history without a new Queens speech. So well over due.

Tactically masterful for other reasons, but non the less totally legitimate normal practice.

I'd be surprised if it was able to be revoked after listening to a QC describe why the courts aren't concerned with the rights or wrongs of the decision, except it was done with the correct intention- to prorogue for Queens Speech. That is why the Scottish bunch are wanting the PM to say on oath why hes prorogued parliament. He wont, hes already said publicly why he's doing it. The actual days are 4-6, Conference season in between, so there can be no argument that parliament was shut down from September till Oct31

dpb

Are you still expecting Eu to give us free trade Andy ?

andy97

iTrader: (1)

Dont give a **** anymore, too much animosity on both sides.

There was never giving, it should of been mutual benefit arrangement- but hey

dpb

Say no more , hardly affects me

I'm pretty sure that level of arrogance isn't sitting happily with the vast majority trading wth Europe

dpb

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...411.html%3famp

I'd love to know which food is going to be cheaper!!

dpb

More bloody minded brexiter arrogance waylaid

Only through fear being personally sued


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...88051.html?amp

stevebt

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Bet that is kept quiet from all MP’s.

dpb

The slimiest of all slimy slimeballs going


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...-9088736%3famp

dpb

bye bye majority boris

BMWhere?

At this rate, by the end of October, the Lib Dems will have more MPs than the Government

Here's a question for the Brexiteers:
If we are not going to impose a hard border in Northern Ireland, then how exactly are we going to control immigration?

BMWhere?

First big defeat in Parliament for Boris. His response, he wants an election!

dpb

He should be forced to go Brussels 5 times a week to negociate a deal , he's always maintained its possible

BMWhere?

Looks like they are planning to go through with the plan to remove the whip from the 21 Tory rebels who voted against the government tonight. Rory Stewart has apparently resigned the whip anyway but quite shoking is them kicking out the father of the house, Ken Clark and Winston Churchills grandson Nicholas Soames. Really quite shocking!

Along with Rees Mogg lying down on the front bench, this government is utterly contemptuous!

trails

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hilarious really...if it wasn't so important.

dpb

Wasnt there mention of suing boris

trails

iTrader: (41)

Jesus...what for he has committed done many 'things' that should have led to some form of punishment over the years as both a journalist and MP. He isn't a lovable buffoon, he is a self serving w@nker.

dpb

How any common man hoping to actually benefit from brexit can align themselves with this eltist toff just beggars belief imo

trails

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Interesting news from the Beeb

"More than 100,000 people have applied to register to vote in the past 48 hours.

A total of 52,408 applications were submitted on Monday, followed by 64,485 on Tuesday.
In both cases this is well above the typical number for weekday applications, which has been averaging around 27,000 for the past month.
The jump suggests growing public expectation of a general election.
More than half (58 per cent) of applications submitted in the past two days were from people aged 34 and under, while just 8 per cent came from those aged 65 and over."



statistically the youngsters vote remain...

BMWhere?

Some great Rees-Mogg memes after yesterday evenings debate...

Tidgy

So corbyn has ruled out an election as he knows he will lose, parliament is shutting for a month and we are at a default.

No deal brexit on the 31st it is then



one thing that i do find confusing, and this is actually a genuine question, why do all these legal challenges keep happening in Scottish, not english courts?

BMWhere?

The reason Corbyn doesn't want an election is because the date of the election is chosen by the PM and only gets set after MPs have voted for the election. Johnson is currently saying the election will be in October, but there is nothing to stop him saying it will be in November once they vote on it, thus letting the clock run down before parliament can do anything about it! That's why they are calling it an elephant trap, such them in to voting for an election then have the election when its too late to do anything about Brexit.

The vote this evening will therefore be very important in stopping a no deal in October. By forcing no-deal off the table for October, they can then let the PM have his proroguing and once the extension is secure, they can push through a no confidence vote in which case parliament sets the time-table for the election. Now Johnson has a significant minority in government, he can't do much any more anyway!



That also confused me somewhat and I'm also wondering about what power the Scottish courts have over Westminster. I'm sure there is some logic behind it though!

Tidgy

hasn't the eu already said it wont extend it any more? so even if he does ask they wont allow it?

i suspect its something to do with the english courts wouldn't even hear it

trails

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https://fullfact.org/europe/EU-cannot-unilaterally-extend-brexit-date/

I think it's showing a legal prescidence and that doesn't matter where it's set...Maybe.

dpb

I don't understand how and why an unelected adviser is allowed to do the hiring and firing..?

Tidgy

If I'm reading it right then that's not answering the question. Just says we dont have to accept the extension date. I'm talking about if the eu agrees to the extension in the first place.