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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 07:43 PM
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**** i added some of my reply into your quote

Could be that i guess.but they did get the percentages right . They just didnt forsee or reveal, that because of the system Trump was actually miles ahead.

It could just be a coincidence that there prdiction was still right i suppose

but you are just pointing out the vagaries of a first past the post system

like in tennis - where you can win the match but, actually win far fewer points simply by winning the points that actually matter

Trump won in the states that actually mattered

and I think you can form a UK government with a lower share of the national vote (compared to the major opposition)

these are all problems with a representative democratic system

and also US democracy is not simply about the election of the president, they have a the Senate and the House of Representatives

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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Exactly. Tell to Joz as it is, Paben.

I'd like to think he's referring to the 'usual protagonists', before my, admittedly, 'interloping' utter rot post.


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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but you are just pointing out the vagaries of a first past the post system

like in tennis - where you can win the match but, actually win far fewer points simply by winning the points that actually matter

Trump won in the states that actually mattered

and I think you can form a UK government with a lower share of the national vote (compared to the major opposition)

these are all problems with a representative democratic system

and also US democracy is not simply about the election of the president, they have a the Senate and the House of Representatives
At the moment i'll concentrate on how a president can win an election.

I understand how it works and how he won . But i cant see why that system is how it should be.

Is their a reason that sharing out the electoral colleges in the states usnt a fairer more democratic way . Or is it not possabke for some reason?

For example a state has 10 electoral colleges red votes for 4 blue votes for 6 . And thats the amount they get each from that state instead of blue getting all 10.

It seems so basic i cant get why any other way should be done

I wanted trump to win .really just because i like the massive shake up it might cause as opposed to the same old with hillary (im hust pointing out im not complaining about the system because i wanted hillary to win)

Just that it doesnt seem right

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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 10:05 PM
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We really going to go directly from president whos condemning Assad to one whos praising him !?
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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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Yup, funny world isn't it
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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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I can see trump creating fresh new oligarchy, yank style
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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
I can see trump creating fresh new oligarchy, yank style
really, I see him more as a simple man of the people

here he is giving his first interview - with what looks like his <strike>family </strike> closet Whitehouse advisors siting on <strike>golden thrones</strike> simple chairs


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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 11:46 PM
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Meanwhile, a geezer called Prof. Allan Lichtman predicts that Trump will be in trouble:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uselec...V?ocid=UE07DHP


“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system, it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down the line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”

You may say that even you could predict that. I’d understand if you do.

Interesting, I thought.
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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Meanwhile, a geezer called Prof. Allan Lichtman predicts that Trump will be in trouble:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uselec...V?ocid=UE07DHP


“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system, it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down the line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”

You may say that even you could predict that. I’d understand if you do.

Interesting, I thought.
yes, I have been thinking the same
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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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Even Nostradamus had a vague idea:

In Century III, Quatrain 81, Nostradamus wrote: “The great shameless, audacious bawler. He will be elected governor of the army: The boldness of his contention.

“The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”


In Century 1, 40, another prediction reads: “The false trumpet concealing madness will cause Byzantium to change its laws.”

Finally, in Quatrain 50, Nostradamus writes "the Republic of the big city” will engage in costly military operations, ordered by the “trumpet”, which has led to fears of nuclear war.

One user wrote on Facebook: “I pretty sure this is the start to Nostradamus' prediction of the Apocalypse.”

Another posted: “Nostradamus predicted this outcome. Nostradamus predicted after the trumpet wins, there will be a Great War! He predicted this 400 yrs ago!

“His prediction have all come true! I'm afraid America is going fall, compare us to Roma, we have to much debt, and we import more than we export, we are in serious trouble.”




Source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/...illary-clinton
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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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you didn't need him , you could read it in the tealeaves
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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
you didn't need him , you could read it in the tealeaves
The most cutting I've heard someone say is that he could read it on his used bog roll paper.
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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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Well if trump gets blamed for starting ww3 at least if we arent all dead we can blame him and his idiot followers for stepping out of line .

And we can get back to the same old ****e saying we told you so we told you so. Trump and his people are idiots look what theyve done.

War is good for business . What can we the sheep do about it

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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 08:23 PM
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Invest in bomb shelters, they're the future (what's left of it)
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Invest in bomb shelters, they're the future (what's left of it)
Not sure i fancy making it to a post nuclear war world. Though you'd certainly make good money selling bomb shelters to preppers
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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I do find it interesting how many people are up in arms about him winning but only listen to certain information.

I especially like the way they are up in arms about deporting illegals who commit crimes.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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this sums it up
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Not sure i fancy making it to a post nuclear war world. Though you'd certainly make good money selling bomb shelters to preppers


Agreed the aftermath of a nuclear war could prove quite an adventure for the survivors. But I remember bomb shelters were good business back in the Cold War days.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Should invest in a company that makes bombs etc . Thats got to be a good investment to . Should cover both sides
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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Trumps not appointed no black dudes yet.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Trumps not appointed no black dudes yet.
Well, he may. Too early to speculate yet. See, Obama's cousin or half-brother (or something like that) apparently shares his ideology, so there's a possibility for at least one to get in.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Doubt it
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:00 PM
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I think he will as a token. There's always a token black guy.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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I see Huckabee's been given Ambassador to Israel. They're moving the embassy to Jerusalem, too. Interesting.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 11:43 PM
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I think he will as a token. There's always a token black guy.
lol

Your classic PC ethnic box-ticking exercise.
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
lol

Your classic PC ethnic box-ticking exercise.
Exactly and if there is only one thing yanks are brilliant at, it's tick box exercises
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Is it only blacks that we need to have included. What about all other races will that not be an issue ?
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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like which

maybe a scotsman

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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 10:17 PM
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If Mit Romney gets a seat then larfage shoud be in the cabinet

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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
If Mit Romney gets a seat then larfage shoud be in the cabinet
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