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Old 16 August 2016, 01:06 PM
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The op asked if the wrx could match the pace of his old evo 4
Out of the box the answer is no not in a million years
Only the sti can do that

Deluded dudes on here buy a wrx spend all their money on sti parts
Doesn't add up that for me

Boozy Dave reckons he could go out and buy a 70000 pound 22b if he wants too
But choose a.3k wrx come on man
Old 16 August 2016, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TECHNOPUG
True but then the OP didn't seek a debate over the virtues of the 2, just whether the WRX could be considered "fast". These threads always end up going way off topic quicker than any other forum I can think of
If you look back through the first page of comments you'll see it was Wrx owners who first compared the two
Old 16 August 2016, 01:11 PM
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There's only one man who can settle this eternal WRX/STi debate for once and for all.



















Just where is aRSe_Matt when you need him?
Old 16 August 2016, 01:22 PM
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easy that

One group of paupers drive wrx
The rest of us drive the sti

All irrelevant anyway because the gtr is king
Old 16 August 2016, 01:29 PM
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but how fast would the gtr be without the paddle pulling box....
Old 16 August 2016, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Night_rider
Answer is no it's old dated slow and crap...the end
STi is the same age and only has 265bhp, so it's equally old, dated, slow and crap compared to modern cars. So it's a bit of a zero sum argument.
Old 16 August 2016, 02:26 PM
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Whatwver makes u sleep easier at night
Old 16 August 2016, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
The classic wrx was a great car, they missed a trick with the newage by making it heavier and not increasing the power. The 5 speed box has better gear changes and feels a lot more natural going through the gate, the ratios is subjective as my hawk 6 speed is great for everyday driving
As is the case with all modern cars sadly. Sure the engines are more advance and more powerful, but the cars just get heavier and more bloated, what with safety requirements and demands for the latest luxury. Doesn't matter what you do to the power or handling, you still can't remove the mass that you are trying to fling round corners. I remember when hot hatches were sub-1000kgs and 150bhp. Now they have nearly twice the power but are no more fun or chuckable. You're just travelling a lot faster without the sensation of speed.
Old 16 August 2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Whatwver makes u sleep easier at night
What a strange post, considering I have said several times that the STi is the better car. If you're lying awake worrying about what car you've bought and what other people may think, then I'd suggest you have bigger issues at play.
Old 16 August 2016, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
The WRX vs STI debate always goes the same way.

People who own/have only owned a WRX will tell you how much better the WRX is on fuel, how good the 5 speed ratios are for "everyday" driving and how they could of bought a Ferrari, Aston Martin, Sunseeker yacht or a Boeing 747 but opted for a 3grand WRX because it suited their needs better.

Where as people who have owned both will you, the STi is a far far superior car...!
This

Ive owned both WRX/STi and the only reason I can think why you would buy a WRX is:

1.Your budget couldn't stretch to a STi
2,They dont make a newage STi wagon(JDM bugeye STi wagon rare)
3,Your young and insurance is expensive on a STi

When I bought my blobeye WRX which was new at the time is because I couldn't afford a STi and I couldn't afford the insurance on one either(20 years old at the time) But how many people on here can say that they bought a WRX over a STi because they wanted to and had the choice of either car, and how many WRX owners who had that choice have added STi parts to there WRX or at least modified to make it quicker???
Old 16 August 2016, 03:40 PM
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Easier to live with everyday
5 speed better gearbox to live with
Better fuel economy

What aload of old cobblers
The three worst excuses I've heard for owing a wrx
Old 16 August 2016, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
When purchasing myself I never contemplated buying the wrx no flared arches looked like a diesel , shouts almost
That's only a problem when buying a hatch (read Ford Focus) where the poverty spec WRX doesn't have wide arches. Besides, what idiot would buy a hatch these days anyhow?
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
This

Ive owned both WRX/STi and the only reason I can think why you would buy a WRX is:

1.Your budget couldn't stretch to a STi
2,They dont make a newage STi wagon(JDM bugeye STi wagon rare)
3,Your young and insurance is expensive on a STi

When I bought my blobeye WRX which was new at the time is because I couldn't afford a STi and I couldn't afford the insurance on one either(20 years old at the time) But how many people on here can say that they bought a WRX over a STi because they wanted to and had the choice of either car, and how many WRX owners who had that choice have added STi parts to there WRX or at least modified to make it quicker???
Can't argue with that logic fail

Subaru, in their infinite wisdom, decided that there was no longer a market for fast, 4WD estates. Something amply demonstrated by Audi and their complete lack of S4/6 RS4/6 sales......

I'd love a Blob STi widetrack Wagon, but alas, Fuji Heavy Industries said "Iie".

I've often wondered how much work would be involved in cutting the roof off a wagon and welding it onto a saloon, along with the tailgate....
Old 16 August 2016, 04:05 PM
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In short no. Even a classic with 220bhp would feel slow compared to a lot of fairly average cars that are around today.
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
In short no. Even a classic with 220bhp would feel slow compared to a lot of fairly average cars that are around today.
I think that a Classic would actually feel fast compared to the bloated, insulated cars of today. The speedo would tell a different story though.
Old 16 August 2016, 04:33 PM
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Depends what your comparing it with
shauns rs3 is putting down 12.2s outta da box
On the other hand the wifes Dacia Sandero doesn't seems quick at all
Old 16 August 2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TECHNOPUG
I've often wondered how much work would be involved in cutting the roof off a wagon and welding it onto a saloon, along with the tailgate....
Easier to buy a WRX wagon shell and a saloon widetrack STi and transfer everything onto the WRX shell, including Saloon rear arches and front arches, and all the widetrack running gear pretty much everything!!

Problem then is in theory its still a WRX with STi bits bolted on and if you ever was to sell the car it still started life as a WRX, you would have to find that one person who could appreciate the work involved, and the other thing is how would you put a price on such a car(would it be STi widetrack money or modified WRX money???)
Old 16 August 2016, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Easier to buy a WRX wagon shell and a saloon widetrack STi and transfer everything onto the WRX shell, including Saloon rear arches and front arches, and all the widetrack running gear pretty much everything!!

Problem then is in theory its still a WRX with STi bits bolted on and if you ever was to sell the car it still started life as a WRX, you would have to find that one person who could appreciate the work involved, and the other thing is how would you put a price on such a car(would it be STi widetrack money or modified WRX money???)
I've reshelled cars in the past and helped on others (E36 M3 into an E36 Touring for example) and it's an awful lot of work, especially if you want all the interior and electric gizmos to be the same and work. Not of course discounting any bodywork changes. Easier of course if you just want the engine and drive train. You'd essentially need to buy 2 almost complete cars to do it properly too.

Just looking at the wagon and saloon, it looks like the C pillars are the same and the boot/tailgate area too. So could be as simple as cutting the back of any old wagon and grafting it onto the c pillars/roof of a saloon. Kinda like the 80's Shooting Bricks (XJS, 924, 928 etc). I don't know how you price it afterwards - I guess whatever someone is prepared to pay for it. But it would be a whole lot less time and outlay than swapping everything over from a saloon to a wagon.

It's probably not as simple as I've made it sound and no doubt someone's already measured it up and found that it wouldn't work.

Or maybe that's why the FSTi exists
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I absolutely love my Black 05 SL Wagon tbh, I need an estate type vehicle for Carp fishing gear! And yes I have modded it and will be perfectly happy with continuing to mod it that's what I do it's a hobby, I've owned big power cars in the past but the wagon does is for me if I fancy a gear changing meddley I jump into my sons Widetrack but hate to say it the SL interior and sunroof works for me, oh an yes it will have around 340 in the next couple of weeks as a VF43, blue injectors, et etc are being bolted on (the 5 speed is still a great box too)
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Boozy Dave reckons he could go out and buy a 70000 pound 22b if he wants too
But choose a.3k wrx come on man
I invest most of my spare cash in property, to provide an income for my early retirement I have always overpayed on on my house mortgage and now I don't owe much. I haven't got any loans or credit cards either

The WRX does what I want a car to do, I only use it on a weekend with my wife and kids in. It's fast enough for me and I don't want any more power

Just because I have a WRX doesn't mean I'm skint or I live in poverty

The WRX has it's plus points, but don't start picking on me now that **** matt has gone.

How come nobody had a go at uncle creepy when he was sticking up for the WRX with a detailed response about his personal experiences?



Right, back on topic

If you look at my previous replies I was a realist about the performance, stating advice and bhp limits, and when an STI is the model to choose
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*** jockeys out in force as usual I see.

Evo IV = 203bhp & 1345kg, so do the math
Gto twin turbo 1740kg 5.6sec 0-60 - 155mph top speed

WRX 225bhp 0-60 5.7 - 143mph top speed

Wrx PPP 0-60 4.8 150 odd.

You'll also find if you compare stats with many modern cars that people think are fast, the lowly WRX PPP is still streets ahead in the 0-60 dash as in like 2/3 seconds and ain't too shabby up to a ton either, you need to be spending some serious dollar to leave one for dead.

Fact is in the real world most things are going nowhere, I know this because I've had one for 5yrs, all these idiots on here that can't drive for toffee need 4/500bhp to make up for the fact that they can't drive.

So in conclusion yep really slow mate, buy an STi, just make sure it's a Classic.

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Evo 4 203 bhp taxi for ditchmyster
Old 16 August 2016, 11:08 PM
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Standard is 203bhp

http://fastestlaps.com/models/mitsub...olution-iv-gsr
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Evo 4 203 bhp taxi for ditchmyster
I admit I got the info off google, but that's what it came up with EVO IV GSR.but thats the reason I put the weight in too and wrote do the math as they are ish 50kg lighter and the OP said 280 bhp evo, so compared to a 280bhp wrx there would be nothing in it.


But hey this is scoobynet so I should have known better than to think there are people on here that could work that out for themselves.
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Shameful comments from some on here, aren't we meant to be 'scooby' enthusiasts?

The blob WRX is a fast car. The STi is faster. Both are awesome to drive in their own way. Neither require modifying to enjoy if you can handle them properly and manage your expectations. If you need more speed, buy a higher-spec'd model...simples.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I admit I got the info off google
What's new? That's where 90% of you content comes from, the other 10% is total fabrication.

Embarrassing yourself again though
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the gsr 1.8turbo is 180bhp thats what he must of been thinking about the wrxs cousin lol
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
the gsr 1.8turbo is 180bhp thats what he must of been thinking about the wrxs cousin lol
Nah he's just a bum
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Well, I've owned both, a Blob WRX and an STi PPP.

As a standard unit I wouldn't say the WRX was a particularly fast car, if you spend a couple of grand on mods and do it properly however, they can be made to be pretty rapid.
Mine would keep up comfortably with my mates S3, although he did seem to have the slight advantage.

The STi, is a much better car performance wise, you don't realise just how well they handle until you mistakenly try taking a bend at the same speed, in the wet, in something like the BMW I have now.

Only problem is they're a pig to drive on our crappy UK roads with the very hard suspension, particularly on a long journey.

So to sum up, the WRX is a more comfortable everyday car.
The STi, hands down, is the better performance car.
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My wrx has ppp on it and is pretty quick ( I can't compare to sti as I have never driven one , I am just saying what I think of my wrx )
The sti's I was looking at which were about 9k werent in very good condition for that amount of money
I probably spent over the odds on mine but it's far better condition than sti's I viewed and it's low mileage
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