It needs some thought and analysis and sound interpretation, but for me it's something that gets better everytime I read or hear it. Thanks to my father-in-law for the introduction - he knows a thing or two.

 

deviation !

 

true, but scoobynet needs all the traffic it can get

 

Now this takes wandering off the thread to a new low, WTF?

 

Yep, fair cop. Brilliant poem though!

 

This seems to be escalating, with apparently 50,000 people in senior positions arrested/fired from their jobs/ suspended. I must be growing dimmer because I haven't seen an explanation for the revolt. Presumably it had roots or the army would not have been involved, but the people seem to be behind the government. I'm confused

 

My reading is that the conspirators wished to restore Turkey to its fully democratic, secular, Ataturkian state as opposed to Erdogan who marshals Turkey via slow-creep towards an Islamist future.

 

I don't think it is just you

it seems terribly confused, Erdogan is an Islamist - but an ally of the US/UK, the plotters secular??!!

and sort of backs up my personal thesis that nothing much makes any sense these days

maybe that's on purpose - keep the populous guessing

 

Erdogan is taking Turkey away from secularism and toward a more Islamist state.
NATO and the ARRC have invested heavily in the bases or the use of them in the fight against Da-esh. Erdogan is now cracking down on the moderate intelligencia to further oppress freedom of speech and thought.
The West have to be very careful here or they may allow the fight with Da-esh to get one more country nearer. The Turks have the largest standing Army in the European area and while they not be the best fighters the numbers available will make a difference.

 

But this doesn't seem to have kept the populous guessing. I would have expected a few bricks/bottles/flares to have been thrown by the odd prol supporting the rebels but nothing; just lots of Turkish flags waving, soldier thumping and tank climbing by the general public. The army and its friends must have badly miscalculated. Just seems unlikely that they could have got it so wrong though.

 

I've read (will try to dig it out for you) that Erdogan was on the cusp of arresting suspected conspirators and so said conspirators brought the coup forward whilst Erdogan was on holiday. Apparently the latter missed assassination a couple of times; once at his hotel and once in the air when two fighter planes had him in their sights. I guess the reason the coup didn't have mass support is that Erdogan has won each of his elections and that there is growing sentiment that Turkey should return to the days of the Ottomans. The progressives and intelligencia and the West's sympathisers (Attaturkians) who'd have welcomed the putsch are in a significant minority and probably went to ground.

 

Here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...nds-of-soldie/

It would seem there simply wasn't enough time to rebel rouse and agitate and coerce the majority and as such the critical ground swell was absent.

 

yes, I did not just mean keep the Turkish populous guessing

 

but Mr Gulen is an Islam cleric?

Edit - changed Islamist to Islam

 

I don't think it has much to do with Islamism and more about absolute power. Erdogan continually pushes the boundaries of democracy to gain more power and with more power suppresses the opposition. With this failed coup, he has a trump card that he can use to eliminate all his enemies in one foul swoop, whether they were involved or not! No doubt the next step is to suspend democracy due to the threat from the revolutionists and ta-da! We have another dictator!

 

All the ingredients to prompt another coup I would have thought!

 

If a group of caged turkeys native to Turkey conspired to breakout, then it would be deemed:

A Turkey turkey coop coup.

Groan.

 

They'll be rounding you up with the other 50,000 for that one

 

LOL

And 'well deserved' too, I'd wager.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gülen_movement

 

And as if by magic...
he has now declared a state of emergency meaning he can pass laws without the approval of parliament!
How to become a dictator:
Step 1: Become president! Check!
Step 2: Declare a state of emergency so you can pass laws without approval! Check!
Step 3: Repress all opposition! On Going!
Step 4: Pass a law to give the presedent supreme power!

 

Never mind, the EU will let him off and STILL welcome them in.......

 

I suspect many of his supporters may now be wondering what they've done.

 

They cannot. He is failing the entry rule requirements.

 

Christ sake, you got your Brexit and yet you're still bloody going on.

 

Sadly, I suspect it will be far too late before they realise that! At the moment they are celebrating!

 

Suspension human rights !

 

Of course, how else can they deal with all those rebels if Human Rights keep getting in the way?

 

As did Greece for entering the Euro...which they are now in

 

Ssssshhhhhh!