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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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http://www.ebcbrakes-webshop.co.uk/v...rm=&pid=119223

These seem to be correct,and the numbers 4047R match the numbers on mine,I will see if I can trace some.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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So seems that the pads are readily available for these brakes.
Pic below in case anyone with these calipers has problems..




Just rotors now,I will keep the search going for now but it seems like having a pair fabricated is the way to go.
So it's either Ian or Alyn who I know are both more than capable

@Ian from Godspeed,what is the turnaround time if I order from you,and I'm guessing you would need my old rotors sending in before you can make a start?
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Sounds very unlikely unless you put them on eBay and are sparse with the truth....

It would be cheaper to buy decent aps. K sports are a false economy and very expensive to maintain compared to the AP etc
are you sure it's the same K-sports we are talking about because i have had no issues with mine whatsoever,

Maintainence ? Do you mean clean them ?

My car can sit for couple weeks at a time and never had a problem with them binding on or that,
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
are you sure it's the same K-sports we are talking about because i have had no issues with mine whatsoever,

Maintainence ? Do you mean clean them ?

My car can sit for couple weeks at a time and never had a problem with them binding on or that,
No I mean actually maintaining them.

Bell bolts are 3x the price of ap.

DECENT pads, not ebc ones that delivers laminate and fade after some use are double the price of equivalent aps.

Discs are double or treble the price of aps.

Spares are rarely kept in stock and apex are extremely unhelpful when ordering bits and don't keep them in stock.

No dust seals as opposed to aps

By the time you have done the maintenance on the k sports twice you could have covered the cost of aps and enjoyed cheap replacement parts etc in future.....
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
No I mean actually maintaining them.

Bell bolts are 3x the price of ap.

DECENT pads, not ebc ones that delivers laminate and fade after some use are double the price of equivalent aps.

Discs are double or treble the price of aps.

Spares are rarely kept in stock and apex are extremely unhelpful when ordering bits and don't keep them in stock.

No dust seals as opposed to aps

By the time you have done the maintenance on the k sports twice you could have covered the cost of aps and enjoyed cheap replacement parts etc in future.....
Expensive if you pay £600 for discs yes

Again from my experience Orangestuff have held up fine and perform great,

Easy to get bolts elsewhere,

Lack of dust seals is yet to affect me as i says no binding even if left sitting still. if they did surely could take apart and clean ?
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Expensive if you pay £600 for discs yes

Again from my experience Orangestuff have held up fine and perform great,

Easy to get bolts elsewhere,

Lack of dust seals is yet to affect me as i says no binding even if left sitting still. if they did surely could take apart and clean ?
Go on then, enlighten me, where would you get bell bolts from? None fit. Trust me I've tried.

K sports use a sleeve and Allen head bolt.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Go on then, enlighten me, where would you get bell bolts from? None fit. Trust me I've tried.

K sports use a sleeve and Allen head bolt.
Do you know what thread pitch etc ?
Qouldnt be too hard to find.

It is just a bolt after all.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Do you know what thread pitch etc ?
Qouldnt be too hard to find.

It is just a bolt after all.
I thought exactly the same thing mate. But you need sleeves to fit them and they are a shouldered HT and I have found no where that sells anything even vaguely similar.

As performance who make and sell custom brakes can't source any either
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
http://www.ebcbrakes-webshop.co.uk/v...rm=&pid=119223

These seem to be correct,and the numbers 4047R match the numbers on mine,I will see if I can trace some.
I have just checked and EBC do have stock of these , can get the yellowstuff pads to you tomorrow , they don't list any other pads , only the yellowstuff ones

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So seems that the pads are readily available for these brakes.
Pic below in case anyone with these calipers has problems..




Just rotors now,I will keep the search going for now but it seems like having a pair fabricated is the way to go.
So it's either Ian or Alyn who I know are both more than capable

@Ian from Godspeed,what is the turnaround time if I order from you,and I'm guessing you would need my old rotors sending in before you can make a start?
We can make a pair up in 2-3 days , we don't need a disc to copy as I have made drawings from a customers disc a few years ago

Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
I thought exactly the same thing mate. But you need sleeves to fit them and they are a shouldered HT and I have found no where that sells anything even vaguely similar.

As performance who make and sell custom brakes can't source any either
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K sport disc to bell bolts changed a few years ago , they went from 6mm to 8mm , as far as I know the bolts are nothing special , the sleeves you mention are used for those who have an early kit with 6mm holes in the bells , when you buy new discs they are all now 8mm , so if you buy new discs to fit old bells , you buy 6mm bolts and sleeves , the sleeves fit in the disc so the 6mm bolts fit


We can supply replacement discs for the K sport 330mm kits , the K sport discs have a step in the disc face where the bells fit on , this means AP discs won't fit as the total offset is wrong , we make 330mm x 32mm rotors , but same as AP ones they are flat with no step on them , so we have made bells with more offset which whan bolts to our flat discs they have the same total offset as the K sports so are a direct fit.

See this thread from 18 months ago

https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...30mm-kits.html

Cheers Ian
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes


We can make a pair up in 2-3 days , we don't need a disc to copy as I have made drawings from a customers disc a few years ago
Cheers Ian
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Thanks Ian
Nice fast turnaround and you don't need my old discs,sounds good

I will phone you tomorrow to place the order.

Cheers
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:19 AM
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ok no problem
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes
K sport disc to bell bolts changed a few years ago , they went from 6mm to 8mm , as far as I know the bolts are nothing special , the sleeves you mention are used for those who have an early kit with 6mm holes in the bells , when you buy new discs they are all now 8mm , so if you buy new discs to fit old bells , you buy 6mm bolts and sleeves , the sleeves fit in the disc so the 6mm bolts fit

As i thought just bolts nothing special.
Probobly some lying around my work lol.
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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Discs all fitted up now and the Godspeed G-Hook look very nice

Thanks Ian,was a pleasure to do business.
The brakes feel better than ever and I'm only 50 easy miles into bedding in,and finally the horrible vibration from the old discs has gone.
New brakes is defiantly one of the best things I've done on the car.

To say the had to be made from scratch it was a very quick turnaround
Cheers
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 04:07 PM
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u just need to clean up that suspension behind it im only saying that as im currently cleaning my suspension the **** gets dirty!
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash Webster
u just need to clean up that suspension behind it im only saying that as im currently cleaning my suspension the **** gets dirty!
Dam it I knew I should have cropped the pic!
It would be nice to have some shinny new suspension but it's one thing at a time unfortunately,I will give them a clean up when I get time,is a daily car tho so not always that easy
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 08:39 PM
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you need to get some nice stickers on those calipers as well that would make them look perfect...
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nikon-man
you need to get some nice stickers on those calipers as well that would make them look perfect...
Hmm I like that idea,do you think the scoobyclinic logo in white?
Doubt they will but I guess it's worth asking if they sell the stickers
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I can get you any stickers you want made any logo and any wording etc...

drop me a pm message
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Originally Posted by nikon-man
I can get you any stickers you want made any logo and any wording etc...

drop me a pm message
Pm'd


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Glad to see you had a result.
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Does anyone have specs / link to suitable replacement bolts? I have the 330mm discs with the newer 8mm bolts. Price from K-sport seems to be ~£50 for the two sets.

I am working on the assumption that, being HT bolts they need to be replaced each time. Any sagely advice welcomed!
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by boboskins
Does anyone have specs / link to suitable replacement bolts? I have the 330mm discs with the newer 8mm bolts. Price from K-sport seems to be ~£50 for the two sets.

I am working on the assumption that, being HT bolts they need to be replaced each time. Any sagely advice welcomed!
I got my new bolts from my local nut&bolt place,under £10 for 24.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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Cheers Osset - thats what I am hoping to do (or possibly online) but I don't know what the specs are for the K-sports.

If anyone can confirm length & tensile strength. My understanding is that the are M8 1.25 thread and HT, but I don't know the length (until I pull one out which I can only really do once I have replacement bolts as the car is still a daily driver). Are they 10.9 or 12.9? would it be an issue if 12.9 were used rather than 10.9?

This is an example of what I was looking at:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SN36F...0MGRBM6S&psc=1
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