Millers oil must read!
18 April 2016, 07:55 PM
#61
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I paid £55 inc post and Ray advised me to go for the 10w50 for mine. Its not listed on his page but he will send out the correct grade if you let him know before hand 
http://silverline-uk.com/product/10w40-engine-oil/
http://silverline-uk.com/product/10w40-engine-oil/
20 April 2016, 10:36 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I am reachable via facebook page as Steve says (It's linked to my phone so I get messages quicker).
I am a Subaru owner myself I currently own around 15 - 20 rare spec Limited Edition cars.
Our "promo" car was bought from a breaker 4 years ago. 122k miles history unknown and piston slap.
We decided to use it for track and therefore upgraded it on a budget.
We now run 315 bhp with same torque (Mapped by Simon and now Duncan)
Just before Simon passed away he mapped in our VF35 turbo. His response was, "I'm not saying its your oil but I'm amazed that the readings on my cans are the same as they were a year ago. Knowing how this car gets driven that's amazing" The car is now on 125k miles, still same engine and gearbox. We change the oil once a year. It was retired last year as we are building another car at around 500 bhp (as Steve Whitehorns). This project has fallen behind so the old girl will be out again this year
There are video's on you tube and also on face book.
Duncan Graham and Charlie (SRR) are also using my oil in their own cars. So you can always ask them as I'm sure you will get an unbiased review.
Feedback has been A1 from everyone that has used it. We are even supplying a company that build RIB's and they are trialling it with a military application.
It's used in time attack, 4x4 offroad racing, Gymkhana, Road cars, Trucks, etc etc.
As with most of you, I have tried many oils etc over the years. They do their job. However, this oil does what it says on the tin. I am still learning daily, I still get feedback daily and I believe in the product. Hopefully, over time, more people will feel the same way and agree with me that its a brilliant protector. It wont "mend" something that's already on its way out. But it does a fantastic job of lubricating.
I have a guy from Kent that has an Impreza, On a track day at Lydden his engine started knocking. He asked if I had anything for it. I said, all I have is oil Stabilizer which may help you get home. I saw him last weekend. 10,000 miles later still on the same engine and done another couple of track days. He said not bad for an engine that was condemned by my garage!
I'm not saying it's the Stabilizer, but he says it is :-)
I'm always happy to have a chat with anyone and talk Subaru's or basically anything mechanical (I also own a few yank motors :-) )
I am reachable via facebook page as Steve says (It's linked to my phone so I get messages quicker).
I am a Subaru owner myself I currently own around 15 - 20 rare spec Limited Edition cars.
Our "promo" car was bought from a breaker 4 years ago. 122k miles history unknown and piston slap.
We decided to use it for track and therefore upgraded it on a budget.
We now run 315 bhp with same torque (Mapped by Simon and now Duncan)
Just before Simon passed away he mapped in our VF35 turbo. His response was, "I'm not saying its your oil but I'm amazed that the readings on my cans are the same as they were a year ago. Knowing how this car gets driven that's amazing" The car is now on 125k miles, still same engine and gearbox. We change the oil once a year. It was retired last year as we are building another car at around 500 bhp (as Steve Whitehorns). This project has fallen behind so the old girl will be out again this year
There are video's on you tube and also on face book.
Duncan Graham and Charlie (SRR) are also using my oil in their own cars. So you can always ask them as I'm sure you will get an unbiased review.
Feedback has been A1 from everyone that has used it. We are even supplying a company that build RIB's and they are trialling it with a military application.
It's used in time attack, 4x4 offroad racing, Gymkhana, Road cars, Trucks, etc etc.
As with most of you, I have tried many oils etc over the years. They do their job. However, this oil does what it says on the tin. I am still learning daily, I still get feedback daily and I believe in the product. Hopefully, over time, more people will feel the same way and agree with me that its a brilliant protector. It wont "mend" something that's already on its way out. But it does a fantastic job of lubricating.
I have a guy from Kent that has an Impreza, On a track day at Lydden his engine started knocking. He asked if I had anything for it. I said, all I have is oil Stabilizer which may help you get home. I saw him last weekend. 10,000 miles later still on the same engine and done another couple of track days. He said not bad for an engine that was condemned by my garage!
I'm not saying it's the Stabilizer, but he says it is :-)
I'm always happy to have a chat with anyone and talk Subaru's or basically anything mechanical (I also own a few yank motors :-) )
Last edited by rayc21; 20 April 2016 at 10:40 AM.
20 April 2016, 02:48 PM
#64
Scooby Regular
Hi Everyone,
I am reachable via facebook page as Steve says (It's linked to my phone so I get messages quicker).
I am a Subaru owner myself I currently own around 15 - 20 rare spec Limited Edition cars.
Our "promo" car was bought from a breaker 4 years ago. 122k miles history unknown and piston slap.
We decided to use it for track and therefore upgraded it on a budget.
We now run 315 bhp with same torque (Mapped by Simon and now Duncan)
Just before Simon passed away he mapped in our VF35 turbo. His response was, "I'm not saying its your oil but I'm amazed that the readings on my cans are the same as they were a year ago. Knowing how this car gets driven that's amazing" The car is now on 125k miles, still same engine and gearbox. We change the oil once a year. It was retired last year as we are building another car at around 500 bhp (as Steve Whitehorns). This project has fallen behind so the old girl will be out again this year
There are video's on you tube and also on face book.
Duncan Graham and Charlie (SRR) are also using my oil in their own cars. So you can always ask them as I'm sure you will get an unbiased review.
Feedback has been A1 from everyone that has used it. We are even supplying a company that build RIB's and they are trialling it with a military application.
It's used in time attack, 4x4 offroad racing, Gymkhana, Road cars, Trucks, etc etc.
As with most of you, I have tried many oils etc over the years. They do their job. However, this oil does what it says on the tin. I am still learning daily, I still get feedback daily and I believe in the product. Hopefully, over time, more people will feel the same way and agree with me that its a brilliant protector. It wont "mend" something that's already on its way out. But it does a fantastic job of lubricating.
I have a guy from Kent that has an Impreza, On a track day at Lydden his engine started knocking. He asked if I had anything for it. I said, all I have is oil Stabilizer which may help you get home. I saw him last weekend. 10,000 miles later still on the same engine and done another couple of track days. He said not bad for an engine that was condemned by my garage!
I'm not saying it's the Stabilizer, but he says it is :-)
I'm always happy to have a chat with anyone and talk Subaru's or basically anything mechanical (I also own a few yank motors :-) )
I am reachable via facebook page as Steve says (It's linked to my phone so I get messages quicker).
I am a Subaru owner myself I currently own around 15 - 20 rare spec Limited Edition cars.
Our "promo" car was bought from a breaker 4 years ago. 122k miles history unknown and piston slap.
We decided to use it for track and therefore upgraded it on a budget.
We now run 315 bhp with same torque (Mapped by Simon and now Duncan)
Just before Simon passed away he mapped in our VF35 turbo. His response was, "I'm not saying its your oil but I'm amazed that the readings on my cans are the same as they were a year ago. Knowing how this car gets driven that's amazing" The car is now on 125k miles, still same engine and gearbox. We change the oil once a year. It was retired last year as we are building another car at around 500 bhp (as Steve Whitehorns). This project has fallen behind so the old girl will be out again this year
There are video's on you tube and also on face book.
Duncan Graham and Charlie (SRR) are also using my oil in their own cars. So you can always ask them as I'm sure you will get an unbiased review.
Feedback has been A1 from everyone that has used it. We are even supplying a company that build RIB's and they are trialling it with a military application.
It's used in time attack, 4x4 offroad racing, Gymkhana, Road cars, Trucks, etc etc.
As with most of you, I have tried many oils etc over the years. They do their job. However, this oil does what it says on the tin. I am still learning daily, I still get feedback daily and I believe in the product. Hopefully, over time, more people will feel the same way and agree with me that its a brilliant protector. It wont "mend" something that's already on its way out. But it does a fantastic job of lubricating.
I have a guy from Kent that has an Impreza, On a track day at Lydden his engine started knocking. He asked if I had anything for it. I said, all I have is oil Stabilizer which may help you get home. I saw him last weekend. 10,000 miles later still on the same engine and done another couple of track days. He said not bad for an engine that was condemned by my garage!
I'm not saying it's the Stabilizer, but he says it is :-)
I'm always happy to have a chat with anyone and talk Subaru's or basically anything mechanical (I also own a few yank motors :-) )
we need more approachable and down to earth guys like yourself that offer there services and advice will defo be in contact @ service time
20 April 2016, 10:37 PM
#67
I don't think 'shaking it up a bit' will make the bits that have separated from the compound magically reattatch correctly somehow
If it settles and separates in the bottle, it will do exactly the same when in your engine. Then one of the little bits of goo might get carried around with the oil and block an oil modine and kill your engine
Think of the sun tan lotion that separates, you shake it up and it turns into a mixture that protects your skin. 10 mins later it will have settled in the bottle and turned back into separate compounds.
You can't shake the oil inside your engine everytime you use your car
If it settles and separates in the bottle, it will do exactly the same when in your engine. Then one of the little bits of goo might get carried around with the oil and block an oil modine and kill your engine
Think of the sun tan lotion that separates, you shake it up and it turns into a mixture that protects your skin. 10 mins later it will have settled in the bottle and turned back into separate compounds.
You can't shake the oil inside your engine everytime you use your car
21 April 2016, 10:21 PM
#68
I don't think 'shaking it up a bit' will make the bits that have separated from the compound magically reattatch correctly somehow
If it settles and separates in the bottle, it will do exactly the same when in your engine. Then one of the little bits of goo might get carried around with the oil and block an oil modine and kill your engine
Think of the sun tan lotion that separates, you shake it up and it turns into a mixture that protects your skin. 10 mins later it will have settled in the bottle and turned back into separate compounds.
You can't shake the oil inside your engine everytime you use your car
If it settles and separates in the bottle, it will do exactly the same when in your engine. Then one of the little bits of goo might get carried around with the oil and block an oil modine and kill your engine
Think of the sun tan lotion that separates, you shake it up and it turns into a mixture that protects your skin. 10 mins later it will have settled in the bottle and turned back into separate compounds.
You can't shake the oil inside your engine everytime you use your car
21 April 2016, 10:43 PM
#69
It might 'mix', but it won't turn back into the consistent compound that it was manufactured into.
Every time your car is stood, the crud will settle in the sump.
When you are running the car it might mix in with the oil, but I wouldn't want lumps of crud being carried around my engine.
I like drinking beer (and anything that contains alcohol), but somehow I wouldn't enjoy eating malted barley, brewer's yeast and some hops. Then washing it down with a pint of water
In a compound, as it should be, it's fine. But once separated it's not gonna work
Every time your car is stood, the crud will settle in the sump.
When you are running the car it might mix in with the oil, but I wouldn't want lumps of crud being carried around my engine.
I like drinking beer (and anything that contains alcohol), but somehow I wouldn't enjoy eating malted barley, brewer's yeast and some hops. Then washing it down with a pint of water
In a compound, as it should be, it's fine. But once separated it's not gonna work
22 April 2016, 05:10 PM
#73
Scooby Regular
22 April 2016, 05:16 PM
#74
Was just a generic pic to show you's.
Loads on eBay, most funnels come with mesh but just check listing to confirm.
This https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/311497069698
Loads on eBay, most funnels come with mesh but just check listing to confirm.
This https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/311497069698
22 April 2016, 11:21 PM
#75
Good on you if you do, but, if you do catch gloop in the sieve, that is part of the oil compound that won't be in your engine
You are missing the point, the oil is is a compound. If it has lumps of gloop in it, it's started breaking down/not the full compound to give full protection that it was designed to. It has started separating BEFORE you put it in your engine and use it for 5k miles
23 April 2016, 10:31 AM
#76
How many people use a sieve when filling oil?
Good on you if you do, but, if you do catch gloop in the sieve, that is part of the oil compound that won't be in your engine
You are missing the point, the oil is is a compound. If it has lumps of gloop in it, it's started breaking down/not the full compound to give full protection that it was designed to. It has started separating BEFORE you put it in your engine and use it for 5k miles
Good on you if you do, but, if you do catch gloop in the sieve, that is part of the oil compound that won't be in your engine
You are missing the point, the oil is is a compound. If it has lumps of gloop in it, it's started breaking down/not the full compound to give full protection that it was designed to. It has started separating BEFORE you put it in your engine and use it for 5k miles
Folk will move onto something else before they find a bad thing about it later, and then be going round in circles till they find them selfs back in the beginning after they find worser with other (s).
This thread only makes you just be cautious when doing stuff, if anything it's educational.
23 April 2016, 10:40 AM
#77
Was found in quite a few cans 
The point is it is incomplete, it's not less of something it's missing a component. The horrific snot blob was left in the can although potentially could have come out. Many people would have binned the can without even noticing they'd left a large engine killing coagulation behind. There is no point buying premium oil if you are willing to accept such quality issues. It's not a can of emulsion you can just shake up and carry on
The point is it is incomplete, it's not less of something it's missing a component. The horrific snot blob was left in the can although potentially could have come out. Many people would have binned the can without even noticing they'd left a large engine killing coagulation behind. There is no point buying premium oil if you are willing to accept such quality issues. It's not a can of emulsion you can just shake up and carry on
25 April 2016, 10:32 AM
#79
Was found in quite a few cans The point is it is incomplete, it's not less of something it's missing a component. The horrific snot blob was left in the can although potentially could have come out. Many people would have binned the can without even noticing they'd left a large engine killing coagulation behind. There is no point buying premium oil if you are willing to accept such quality issues. It's not a can of emulsion you can just shake up and carry on
The point is it is incomplete, it's not less of something it's missing a component. The horrific snot blob was left in the can although potentially could have come out. Many people would have binned the can without even noticing they'd left a large engine killing coagulation behind. There is no point buying premium oil if you are willing to accept such quality issues. It's not a can of emulsion you can just shake up and carry on We sell a lot of Millers CFS (and their other oils too) and have not had a single person report this to us at all. Yes, I accept that if it's stuck to the inside of the can, it's not as likely to come out, but as it's in oil it's not likely to stick to the can.
Cheers
Tim
25 April 2016, 02:39 PM
#80
Scooby Regular
Hi
We sell a lot of Millers CFS (and their other oils too) and have not had a single person report this to us at all. Yes, I accept that if it's stuck to the inside of the can, it's not as likely to come out, but as it's in oil it's not likely to stick to the can.
Cheers
Tim
We sell a lot of Millers CFS (and their other oils too) and have not had a single person report this to us at all. Yes, I accept that if it's stuck to the inside of the can, it's not as likely to come out, but as it's in oil it's not likely to stick to the can.
Cheers
Tim
25 April 2016, 03:26 PM
#82
Scooby Regular
25 April 2016, 03:50 PM
#83
Hi
What you've described sounds like a bit of additive dropout, which can happen with oil that has been sat around for a while (I'd be a bit surprised if it had suffered from dropout if it was relatively fresh from us as we have a high turnover of Millers).
The stuff in the facebook picture looks a lot more serious than a bit of additive dropout. Also the picture is of a new-label can of CFS, so that should mean it's relatively new stuff, meaning that it's unlikely that the additives would have settled that quickly.
Cheers
Tim
What you've described sounds like a bit of additive dropout, which can happen with oil that has been sat around for a while (I'd be a bit surprised if it had suffered from dropout if it was relatively fresh from us as we have a high turnover of Millers).
The stuff in the facebook picture looks a lot more serious than a bit of additive dropout. Also the picture is of a new-label can of CFS, so that should mean it's relatively new stuff, meaning that it's unlikely that the additives would have settled that quickly.
Cheers
Tim
06 May 2016, 12:47 PM
#87
I've spoken to Millers technical department and they have said that the stuff that separated out of the oil was one of the esters used (1% of the total content) and since identifying the problem with that happening after the oil has been stored for longer periods, they have replaced it in the formula. They say that the 1% makes no difference to the overall performance of the product, but it is no longer an issue with their current oils.
Cheers
Tim
Cheers
Tim
07 May 2016, 07:53 PM
#88
Scooby Regular
I've spoken to Millers technical department and they have said that the stuff that separated out of the oil was one of the esters used (1% of the total content) and since identifying the problem with that happening after the oil has been stored for longer periods, they have replaced it in the formula. They say that the 1% makes no difference to the overall performance of the product, but it is no longer an issue with their current oils.
Cheers
Tim
Cheers
Tim
07 May 2016, 09:17 PM
#89
I've spoken to Millers technical department and they have said that the stuff that separated out of the oil was one of the esters used (1% of the total content) and since identifying the problem with that happening after the oil has been stored for longer periods, they have replaced it in the formula. They say that the 1% makes no difference to the overall performance of the product, but it is no longer an issue with their current oils.
Cheers
Tim
Cheers
Tim
Standard old stock caveat
presumably there's a recall on old oil formula stock then and a full liability fund set up for the globules that get picked up and make there way in to the pump Note to self, drive over cattle grid after being parked up for a few weeks to mix the esters up. fpmsl.
09 May 2016, 07:27 AM
#90
Tim - forgive me for appearing stupid, but if the offending ester additive made no overall difference to the oil's performance, why did Millers decide to add it in the first place? As a long term user of Millers, I'm now inclined to switch to something else.