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I just tried to find out how many eu regulations there are in the uk .
I didnt find out . But i did stumble across thishttp://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/685...UK-post-Brexit
This could be the kind of regulation i thinkbyou mean hodgy.
As i read the content of that link my blood started to boil and i remember why i voted out .
If we dont get a capable leader in this country i will seriously consider emigrating .
It did cross my mind also the the eu wants to destroy our great nation .
Im very happy scotland didnt vote yes to independance . The uk has to stand together now
I didnt find out . But i did stumble across thishttp://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/685...UK-post-Brexit
This could be the kind of regulation i thinkbyou mean hodgy.
As i read the content of that link my blood started to boil and i remember why i voted out .
If we dont get a capable leader in this country i will seriously consider emigrating .
It did cross my mind also the the eu wants to destroy our great nation .
Im very happy scotland didnt vote yes to independance . The uk has to stand together now
I'll sum it up in as short a way possible. Uk ports are mostly private.other eu ports in the eu are state owned. And with the new regulation the eu ports will get funding and ours will have to change
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we are undoubtedly in a worse place for the immediate and mid term
anyway - back to the content of that Express article, what are these new port regulations
edit - I will have to read the article again then!!
Last edited by hodgy0_2; Jul 4, 2016 at 09:20 PM.
Look up. Im very stupid so i cant complete my assignment satisfactorally .
Of coarse the content could all be lies .idk. but basically our ports will be screwed .thats what it said. I would appreciate your take on the article in question
Of coarse the content could all be lies .idk. but basically our ports will be screwed .thats what it said. I would appreciate your take on the article in question
Last edited by gary77; Jul 4, 2016 at 09:23 PM.
Do you have any further comment on the problem of who we will trade with or is your only concern the free movement and regulations wed have to agree to.
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt
look I have read it again, i have looked into the Ports Services Regulations
http://www.ashfords.co.uk/eu-port-se...moves-forward/
http://ukmajorports.org.uk/eu/ (industry body website)
it simply a sensationalist article designed to push buttons and "enrage"
We sold off our ports service, (presumably getting cash for it in the process) in the EU most are state funded
these "rules" favour state funded ports (the article never actually says what they are!!!!)
but our privatised ports (part owned by Goldman Sachs) are making a song and dance about it - quelle surprise
it simply sound like a technical argument that neither you or I are capable of understanding tbh
but then the Express know this - that's why they print **** like this
look I have read it again, i have looked into the Ports Services Regulations
http://www.ashfords.co.uk/eu-port-se...moves-forward/
http://ukmajorports.org.uk/eu/ (industry body website)
it simply a sensationalist article designed to push buttons and "enrage"
We sold off our ports service, (presumably getting cash for it in the process) in the EU most are state funded
these "rules" favour state funded ports (the article never actually says what they are!!!!)
but our privatised ports (part owned by Goldman Sachs) are making a song and dance about it - quelle surprise
it simply sound like a technical argument that neither you or I are capable of understanding tbh
but then the Express know this - that's why they print **** like this
Last edited by hodgy0_2; Jul 4, 2016 at 09:45 PM.
Its the port services regulation that may or may not kill our ports . Im sure our great leader will sort it all out . Whoever that might be
Edited to say . I Just read your post above
Edited to say . I Just read your post above
Last edited by gary77; Jul 4, 2016 at 09:49 PM.
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I see Charlotte Church is speaking out for the Remain voters on Twitter. In response to Farage saying he wants his life back, she comes out with
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...nigel-11564132
Seems all the Liberals and Remain voters are loving her comment..
Based on the above article and well chosen 'non biased' pictures 'Wales Online' is a left leaning publication...
I want my f**king European Union back you piece of sh*t!!!!!
Seems all the Liberals and Remain voters are loving her comment..
Based on the above article and well chosen 'non biased' pictures 'Wales Online' is a left leaning publication...
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I see Charlotte Church is speaking out for the Remain voters on Twitter. In response to Farage saying he wants his life back, she comes out with
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...nigel-11564132
Seems all the Liberals and Remain voters are loving her comment..
Based on the above article and well chosen 'non biased' pictures 'Wales Online' is a left leaning publication...
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...nigel-11564132
Seems all the Liberals and Remain voters are loving her comment..
Based on the above article and well chosen 'non biased' pictures 'Wales Online' is a left leaning publication...
Ports regulations:
As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.
This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.
IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.
This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.
As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.
This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.
IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.
This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.
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Ports regulations:
As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.
This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.
IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.
This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.
As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.
This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.
IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.
This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.
So our ports are in private hands but they must accept the lowest tender. Smells like BS to me.
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Well the port here Newhaven is owned by the French with eu funding , and they use several local companies for everything afaik
They also run the ferry / tender out the ferry service ( ld lines presently)
They also run the ferry / tender out the ferry service ( ld lines presently)
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Ports regulations:
As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.
This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.
IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.
This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.
As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.
This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.
IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.
This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.
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But it said the ports are privately owned...so this has naff all to do with the public sector.
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Lordy you really believe a privately owned company HAS to accept the lowest tender...they may want to accept the lowest tender because they are a commercial entity and only there to make money maybe?!
Perchance do your buddies who supplied you with this information have a vested interest in moaning about potential job losses?
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It's the way it moves as well...kinda wish they had added some sort of Boris\Farage noise to it
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Africa
Botswana
Cameroon
Ghana
Kenya
Lesotho
Malawi
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Nigeria
Rwanda
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
South Africa
Swaziland
Uganda
United Republic of Tanzania
Zambia
Asia
Bangladesh
Brunei Darussalam
India
Malaysia
Maldives
Pakistan
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Caribbean and Americas
Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas, The
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Dominica
Grenada
Guyana
Jamaica
Saint Lucia
St Kitts and Nevis
St Vincent and The Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
Europe
Cyprus
Malta
United Kingdom
Pacific
Australia
Fiji
Kiribati
Nauru
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Samoa
Solomon Islands
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu
But yes australia new zealand and canada seem to me to be the most useful
But i dont think its an accurate comment to say we have lost trade with the european economic area. Im sure there will be trade negotiated . I cant imagine its in anybodies interest to not allow it .
Also.
The eu is crumbling away .they will be as worried for their future as anyone .
And if it all turns to **** i fancy moving to hawaii and claiming asylum.
Infact ill keep my lielow for the trip over
Botswana
Cameroon
Ghana
Kenya
Lesotho
Malawi
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Nigeria
Rwanda
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
South Africa
Swaziland
Uganda
United Republic of Tanzania
Zambia
Asia
Bangladesh
Brunei Darussalam
India
Malaysia
Maldives
Pakistan
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Caribbean and Americas
Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas, The
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Dominica
Grenada
Guyana
Jamaica
Saint Lucia
St Kitts and Nevis
St Vincent and The Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
Europe
Cyprus
Malta
United Kingdom
Pacific
Australia
Fiji
Kiribati
Nauru
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Samoa
Solomon Islands
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu
But yes australia new zealand and canada seem to me to be the most useful
But i dont think its an accurate comment to say we have lost trade with the european economic area. Im sure there will be trade negotiated . I cant imagine its in anybodies interest to not allow it .
Also.
The eu is crumbling away .they will be as worried for their future as anyone .
And if it all turns to **** i fancy moving to hawaii and claiming asylum.
Infact ill keep my lielow for the trip over
Were apparently doing deals with ex-commonwealth as well - right now chatham house
http://www.newsdzezimbabwe.co.uk/201...as-mugabe.html
His cio bodyguards taking pics of the protesters ....