i would be massivly surprised if they would throw millions at one person, but we can debate that all day and wont ever get an actual answer

 

It's not one person though is it, they'd be throwing millions at a backdoor to the iphone.

 

Unless you know budgets its a pointless discussion

 

That's not particularly relevant to the discussion though.

 

Most likely Apple already have a back door and don't want to admit it now this high profile case is in the public arena.

 

I'd never say that's not possible - thinking VW - but it's unlikely they have something they don't want to admit to.

Plot twist, the FBI changed the Password after Apple had provided assistance, you can't made this up.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnpaczkows...ust#.wxQ3Oo3w1

 

Yes it does indeed get more complex, essentially the FBI had this access

My guess is the FBI had the access and then like my teenager sons they bloody forget the password immediately after changing it :brick wall :roll eyes:

So now it looks like
a) law enforcement agency has access but buggers it up
b) then ask apple to help them
c) apple refuse so they get a judge to enforce the request
d) apple then gets dragged before the general public looking like arseholes

interesting to see how this plays out

 

Yeah I would suspect this too (and not just Apple)

The reality is Apple and the other tech companies are defending a business model

A business model that simply says - give us all you personal data, your likes, dislike, medical history et al

We will make your life easier, better and fun-er

But you have to give us all your data and you can trust us too

The model is much less compelling and harder to sell withou the "trust" element

That is why all the tech companies are standing behind Apple, and Apple are doing a lot of grandstanding on this

 

I think we need to be clear that Apple are very much against using your personal data for their gain, that's not the case with Google, they openly admit to making their money out of your data. If you don't pay for the product, you are the product.

 

not so, with the exception of whatsapp CEO, FB, Amazon, MSFT and Google have not publicly supported Apple's stand . Instead they are all sitting quietly to see how this plays out. In that article that JC posted about Google's so called "support" it looks like say one thing but don't actually go the whole hog.

Now that is a typical business model

 

So after reading this thread and other recent threads regarding apple, ive come to the conclusion its better to buy android, then all this ****e dont concern me.

 

True that, at least you know they've sold you down the river.

 

Yep, but at least i know where i stand

 

Who needs a backdoor when you have vulnerabilities like these:
http://betanews.com/2016/02/05/heres...reen-passcode/

 

Oh dear! "And surely, if an attacker wished to create mischief, they would attempt to cause harm while they had their initial access to the unlocked device." that's a quote that you'd find if you researched before you posted.

 

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/answers/

 

I did see it, just thought I'd promote your mate's work.

 

terrorists dream. Apple need shutting down for supporting terrorism

 

I'm on their side also.

 

I was told last week that this was a device supplied by the deceased's employer, and as such it would be subject to the employers conditions of use. I would have thought Airwatch or whichever MDM platform was being used, would make it relatively simple to over-come the problem with access to the device?

 

Yes it would, but they didn't use it.

 

Supporting terrorism, oh please. Everyone knows Android is the terroists phone of choice and Toyotas.

 

Clearly not, considering this whole thread is about him having an iphone

 

The iPhone wasn't his, it was his work phone.

 

I'm totally in favour of governments not being able to circumvent personally-applied security and encryption on my device, no matter what.

To say that access is needed to prevent terrorism is a straw man argument - secrets have been successfully passed between individuals, organisations, countries since time immemorial. All shutting down one channel will do is push them elsewhere; it won't actually stop terrorists passing information, and now ordinary individuals are a lot more vulnerable to government-level intrusion into personal privacy.

At the moment, Apple are taking the position that the software/ios release asked for does not exist, and they are trying to keep it that way.

 

And lets not forget that the US government are not going after the manufacturers of the guns that did the killing nor restricting their sale. It's ****ing nuts.

Encryption and privacy, you can't have that, AR-15, sure thing son, crack on.

This bloke sums it up https://medium.com/@jamesallworth/th...447#.y43jgzmbf

 

Mr Gates doesn't agree

 

Who's he? Mr Facebook agrees and he's used a computer this decade.

 

Serious

The founder instigator of the biggest software co in the world v head of lucky social media start up

?

 

How many users has Bill got? I'm going to go with none, so that's him out of the looking out for your customers game.