Anyone else hate Porsches?
03 February 2016, 09:17 AM
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993 Turbo for me is still the best looking car Porsche has ever made
And I wish i'd been one of the lucky ones to have bought when prices were sensible and now be sitting on a gold mine.
And I wish i'd been one of the lucky ones to have bought when prices were sensible and now be sitting on a gold mine.
03 February 2016, 10:50 AM
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04 February 2016, 09:25 PM
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My Boxster S. I bought it to do the Euro trip with last year, but it's such a good car I've kept it. We did 3500 miles over the high passes and seven countries in a week and a half, didn't miss a beat. Amazing value for £5K and cheap parts everywhere.
04 February 2016, 10:13 PM
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I'm afraid I disagree with you Loz on this one! I really love 911's even though I haven't even driven one.
Couldn't justify the extra cash for a Fezza/Lambo option, so Porsche it would have to be....
Couldn't justify the extra cash for a Fezza/Lambo option, so Porsche it would have to be....
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05 February 2016, 10:46 AM
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82000 on the clock as bought. Spotless grey leather interior, everything works. I spent only £1K on it replacing all the swinging arms and bushes, shocks, top mounts, drilled discs and better fluid and pads all round just to make sure it was tip top for the trip.
Funnily enough, a GT3 in our group boiled his brakes over and mine was fine! Decent prep done helps..
Funnily enough, a GT3 in our group boiled his brakes over and mine was fine! Decent prep done helps..
05 February 2016, 04:48 PM
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82000 on the clock as bought. Spotless grey leather interior, everything works. I spent only £1K on it replacing all the swinging arms and bushes, shocks, top mounts, drilled discs and better fluid and pads all round just to make sure it was tip top for the trip.
Funnily enough, a GT3 in our group boiled his brakes over and mine was fine! Decent prep done helps..
Funnily enough, a GT3 in our group boiled his brakes over and mine was fine! Decent prep done helps..
05 February 2016, 06:42 PM
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Good point - don't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Here's our family fleet - 82k on the hawkeye (30k by me in the last 14 months) and 120k on the 996. Both doing well 
As for the 911 - this one is a lesser or common 996.2 C2, with the wrong roof and the wrong gearbox. It's still a real treat to drive though...
As for the 911 - this one is a lesser or common 996.2 C2, with the wrong roof and the wrong gearbox. It's still a real treat to drive though...
But get your house remortgaged as your on the verge of needing,
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and a face transplant after driving the 7.
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05 February 2016, 07:01 PM
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It's a 2001 968. Surprisingly affordable as it happens. (For a Porsche) Front discs (Pagid) £56 each. Bilstein Suspension struts £110 each. TCA's £60. Just don't go direct to Porsche to buy anything! As they are mid engined it takes a hell of a smack to hurt the engines, so they are available in plenty of yards second hand.
05 February 2016, 07:19 PM
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Just not a 'want' car.Panamera excepted
If I really had the money I'd spend it on one of the other supercars.Heart ruling head.lol
05 February 2016, 07:36 PM
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It's a 2001 968. Surprisingly affordable as it happens. (For a Porsche) Front discs (Pagid) £56 each. Bilstein Suspension struts £110 each. TCA's £60. Just don't go direct to Porsche to buy anything! As they are mid engined it takes a hell of a smack to hurt the engines, so they are available in plenty of yards second hand.
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05 February 2016, 07:52 PM
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Had to add this -
Stick a Dansk sport box on it and the sound is lovely - a LOT cheaper than the Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE), and nicer imho.
But as above, there IS a big Porsche tax on a lot of parts. But you can find bargains in the network as well
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Stick a Dansk sport box on it and the sound is lovely - a LOT cheaper than the Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE), and nicer imho.
But as above, there IS a big Porsche tax on a lot of parts. But you can find bargains in the network as well
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Who knows. I've had 'reliable' cars cost me a fortune, and 'unreliable' cars cost me not a penny over the usual maintenance. If it makes you feel better, the 7 is running a 1970s Fiat twin-cam with high comp pistons, high-lift cams, R1 carbs etc. It's a heavy, cantankerous engine that's generally a pain in the ****, but by god it sounds good. And I tow it about with the WRX quite happily.
Eh, I'll enjoy what I have. If anything goes pop I'll fix/replace/rebuild as necessary. The 996 belongs to the OH anyway, and I have a helmet for driving the Westy
06 February 2016, 12:03 AM
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Porsche bits aren't cheap, but they tend to last well. A decent independent specialist is a must really.
09 February 2016, 06:10 PM
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Just to roundup the op's question, there seems to be more lovers than haters on here which surprised me as most 'boosty boys' don't consider them quick enough (excluding turbo & GT models).
Got to agree with the Porsche tax on parts, not so much mechanical bits but try and buy a bit of trim or a brake hose/oil pipe etc and you get a severe shafting, i also read that Porsche are actively upping parts prices on the older models, possibly just greed as the 1990 and earlier models are now fetching silly money and they want a slice.
Got to agree with the Porsche tax on parts, not so much mechanical bits but try and buy a bit of trim or a brake hose/oil pipe etc and you get a severe shafting, i also read that Porsche are actively upping parts prices on the older models, possibly just greed as the 1990 and earlier models are now fetching silly money and they want a slice.
09 February 2016, 08:59 PM
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I used to have a MY97 Terzo with about 215bhp. If I was a regular here I'm sure I'd still be popular (oh, so modest...)
Sold it and, several years later, picked up a 3.4 Boxster with 295bhp. Cue all kinds of green-eyed comments, hairdresser, yada yada. DILLIGAF.
I hated the Impreza - laggy boost and not much fun, too saloon to be fun, too thirsty to be saloon. Sold it after a year and didn't want another. The Box I now have for 6 years and have no need or wish to sell it.
To refine the OQ though, I do rather hate 911s. Why? Because they WERE a squashed beetle, that's how they started (post war German car industry only had beetles to work with). And I don't understand how a superb engineering company can stick with a design originally intended to allow easy engine servicing and pull out all the stops to make it handle well. Just imagine if they'd started with the engine in the right place (hello 550, sorry JamesD) and put the same investment into that? It became a myth they had to feed. At least with the Carrera GT and then the 918 the flagship is no longer some 911 with a fancy engine.
Sold it and, several years later, picked up a 3.4 Boxster with 295bhp. Cue all kinds of green-eyed comments, hairdresser, yada yada. DILLIGAF.
I hated the Impreza - laggy boost and not much fun, too saloon to be fun, too thirsty to be saloon. Sold it after a year and didn't want another. The Box I now have for 6 years and have no need or wish to sell it.
To refine the OQ though, I do rather hate 911s. Why? Because they WERE a squashed beetle, that's how they started (post war German car industry only had beetles to work with). And I don't understand how a superb engineering company can stick with a design originally intended to allow easy engine servicing and pull out all the stops to make it handle well. Just imagine if they'd started with the engine in the right place (hello 550, sorry JamesD) and put the same investment into that? It became a myth they had to feed. At least with the Carrera GT and then the 918 the flagship is no longer some 911 with a fancy engine.
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I used to have a MY97 Terzo with about 215bhp. If I was a regular here I'm sure I'd still be popular (oh, so modest...)
Sold it and, several years later, picked up a 3.4 Boxster with 295bhp. Cue all kinds of green-eyed comments, hairdresser, yada yada. DILLIGAF.
I hated the Impreza - laggy boost and not much fun, too saloon to be fun, too thirsty to be saloon. Sold it after a year and didn't want another. The Box I now have for 6 years and have no need or wish to sell it.
To refine the OQ though, I do rather hate 911s. Why? Because they WERE a squashed beetle, that's how they started (post war German car industry only had beetles to work with). And I don't understand how a superb engineering company can stick with a design originally intended to allow easy engine servicing and pull out all the stops to make it handle well. Just imagine if they'd started with the engine in the right place (hello 550, sorry JamesD) and put the same investment into that? It became a myth they had to feed. At least with the Carrera GT and then the 918 the flagship is no longer some 911 with a fancy engine.
Sold it and, several years later, picked up a 3.4 Boxster with 295bhp. Cue all kinds of green-eyed comments, hairdresser, yada yada. DILLIGAF.
I hated the Impreza - laggy boost and not much fun, too saloon to be fun, too thirsty to be saloon. Sold it after a year and didn't want another. The Box I now have for 6 years and have no need or wish to sell it.
To refine the OQ though, I do rather hate 911s. Why? Because they WERE a squashed beetle, that's how they started (post war German car industry only had beetles to work with). And I don't understand how a superb engineering company can stick with a design originally intended to allow easy engine servicing and pull out all the stops to make it handle well. Just imagine if they'd started with the engine in the right place (hello 550, sorry JamesD) and put the same investment into that? It became a myth they had to feed. At least with the Carrera GT and then the 918 the flagship is no longer some 911 with a fancy engine.
Unfortunately the 911 just got more love and the better car was killed off.
Impreza didn't suit you then ? i find impreza's more fun and faster on all kinds of road with exeption to dry high speed on the limit cornering, this is where the porsche seems to have the hand, wet or $h1tty A roads i find the impreza would run away from the porsche, in my experience anyway.
10 February 2016, 04:44 PM
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Yes, Porsche eventually "let go" the chief engineer who'd decided the 911 was outdated.
928 is one of my all-time favourite cars - gorgeous looks, never even sat in one but heard plenty of praise from owners.
I'm not interested in speed per se, the Impreza wins for that. I'm interested in fun, and it lost big time - I'd be at licence-losing speeds before it was vaguely fun. Ideally I'd have a Caterham, but this is my semi-practical alternative. Paired with a Toyota diesel for the family, I get just what I want out of each car rather than the jack of all trades but master of none that was my Impreza experience.
928 is one of my all-time favourite cars - gorgeous looks, never even sat in one but heard plenty of praise from owners.
I'm not interested in speed per se, the Impreza wins for that. I'm interested in fun, and it lost big time - I'd be at licence-losing speeds before it was vaguely fun. Ideally I'd have a Caterham, but this is my semi-practical alternative. Paired with a Toyota diesel for the family, I get just what I want out of each car rather than the jack of all trades but master of none that was my Impreza experience.
10 February 2016, 08:18 PM
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What everyone seems to ignore with the 911 is owner kudos, its fantastic sense of style and the ownership of a piece of car royalty. You can arrive anywhere in one without embarrassment (not so in Ferraris and Lambos, which rightly or wrongly have wide-boy connotations) and have a lot of fun on the way there, especially in the Turbo versions.
I wish I'd never parted with my 996 Turbo, and now that the prices of these have gone through the roof it's unlikely I'll get another.
I wish I'd never parted with my 996 Turbo, and now that the prices of these have gone through the roof it's unlikely I'll get another.