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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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what you all falling out for, you are all missing the point. we are all responsible for this. were do you think ya oil and fuel comes from for your nice scooby, and the couple of grams of gold in our smart phones and also in your cars electronics.
syria has gold and oil and american/british goverments want this. simples. the goverments brain wash us with crap to enable them to get on with unmasked day light robbery of said items. we all contribute to this when filling our cars with fuel ect.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Errrrrrrrr, when I asked about what should happen to our media for slanting the news so that the majority of the UK WANTED more immigrants disguised as refugees, I was shouted down. Told it wasn't happening, wouldn't happen as I said. I was right.

What now?

How ironic to see that this is the first item on the news. And the third? OUR first planeload of refugee immigrants arrives today! You couldn't make it up.

I see the morally bankrupt left are about again, shouting down our outrage, eh Martin?
Can you explain the connection between professional killers launching a coordinated attack with sophisticated equipment, and people trying to escape the very same thing in Syria? You seem very sure that these attacks were made by Syrian refugees. Interested to see how you arrived at this conclusion. You obviously know more about this than the French security services. Maybe you should get in touch with them.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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Because I have nothing to be ashamed about.
You however, even having been shown in the worst possible way, to have been wrong, yet again, have no shame.

You are, and have always been, morally bankrupt.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 01:57 PM
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one of the bombers has been identified as french??????
were does that put ya lefty righties.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I see the morally bankrupt left are about again, shouting down our outrage, eh Martin?
Yeah because the righties are upstanding pillars of moral standards
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 4u2nv2
one of the bombers has been identified as french??????
were does that put ya lefty righties.
Absolutely no surprise at all in this. The Kouachi brothers who carried out the Charlie Hebdo attack less than a year ago were also French-born 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, as were all of their known accomplices. Brainwashed online, then probably trained on the ground in Syria or somewhere similar, or by others who'd been there.

I'm sure we'll hear same about the rest of the people involved last night, once they're identified.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Because I have nothing to be ashamed about.
You however, even having been shown in the worst possible way, to have been wrong, yet again, have no shame.

You are, and have always been, morally bankrupt.
Wrong on what exactly?
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Feel sorry for the victims and their families, no one deserves to go out on a night out and end up in the middle of something like this.

This is unfortunately one of the many consequences of medaling in other countries affairs, we and our allies appear to have learned nothing from Iraq.

They are just giving the west a taste of it's own medicine, and what a bitter pill it is too, innocent people all around the world dying because of corporate greed, then the revenge starts, it's Isreal and Palestine all over again only now it's Europe against the Middle East and Africa etc.

It's an un-winable war and now they're bringing it to us, it was only ever a matter of time before something else happened and unfortunately it's only a matter of time before the next attack from these lunatics.

Very sad times indeed, I really don't know what this world is coming to, but I'm sure no good will come from any of this.

My thoughts exactly! U reep what u sow I'm afraid.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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please take the time to see this thro....
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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You test my patience, Alcazar. There are millions of Muslims living in France. The vast majority of asylum seekers are trying to escape murderous *******s the likes of which we saw go to work last night. To accuse the former of being the latter is perverse.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
You test my patience, Alcazar. There are millions of Muslims living in France. The vast majority of asylum seekers are trying to escape murderous *******s the likes of which we saw go to work last night. To accuse the former of being the latter is perverse.
Nothing wrong with a bit of collective punishment
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 4u2nv2
what you all falling out for, you are all missing the point. we are all responsible for this. were do you think ya oil and fuel comes from for your nice scooby, and the couple of grams of gold in our smart phones and also in your cars electronics.
syria has gold and oil and american/british goverments want this. simples. the goverments brain wash us with crap to enable them to get on with unmasked day light robbery of said items. we all contribute to this when filling our cars with fuel ect.
There's twice as much oil in the Netherlands as there is in Syria. Four times as much in Japan as there is in Syria. If you really think those piddly few drops are worth invading a country for, you must be almost as big a lunatic as the murderers rampaging around Paris's streets last night.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 4u2nv2
one of the bombers has been identified as french??????
were does that put ya lefty righties.
Hardly a surprise is it, the Charlie Hebdo killers were 2nd or 3rd generation French muslims.

I don't think all the killers were French born however - Associated Press have reported the remains of a Syrian passport amongst the remains of one of the suicide bombers outside the stadium.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Nothing wrong with a bit of collective punishment
Even if we leave the moral argument out of it, Alcazar's reasoning is just flawed.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Even if we leave the moral argument out of it, Alcazar's reasoning is just flawed.
Well that's hardly news is it?
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well that's hardly news is it?
Stop throwing pearls before the swine.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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I don't know who did these attacks but anyone who doesn't believe or think for 1 minute there are militant terrorists blending in to the tens of thousand migrants flooding into Europe are in for a shock ....
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
This has nothing to do with the migrant and refugee crisis, the assailants were home grown French speaking nationals who, apparently, were known to the French authorities. Is it a surprise to see the typical knee jerk reactions, no not really.

It was on the BBC news today that one of the attackers had a Syrian passport, that doesn't sound like home grown to me?
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Hardly a surprise is it, the Charlie Hebdo killers were 2nd or 3rd generation French muslims.

I don't think all the killers were French born however - Associated Press have reported the remains of a Syrian passport amongst the remains of one of the suicide bombers outside the stadium.
It's not at all unlikely the passport was fake though, and either being used to make trips to and from Syria to get training or fight alongside IS, or deliberately carried knowing it might be discovered, just to help score a propaganda point. It's near enough certain all of the guys last night had first-hand experience of terrorist action abroad, or received training from people who have.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
There's twice as much oil in the Netherlands as there is in Syria. Four times as much in Japan as there is in Syria. If you really think those piddly few drops are worth invading a country for, you must be almost as big a lunatic as the murderers rampaging around Paris's streets last night.
open your eyes you brain washed numpty, how about lithium gold ect...
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Refugees! ******* soldiers of Allah more like. The one murderous **** came through Greece as a ******* Syrian refugee! When will these left do gooding ******* wake up! They are sending soldiers here to kill us and we welcome them with open arms. ******* joke. Wake up Britain we are now all at war on our own streets. Fact!

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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Europe is being evaded by a foreign army. Its not rocket science 90% of these so called refugees are male and aged between 16 and 25 how has this been allowed to happen? An army that will attack us from within. Mr Cameron what are you going to do now?!
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
If you stopped to think about it for just a minute, you'd realize that smuggling people and smuggling illicit goods across borders are two very different activities, which have mutually contradicting criteria for success. If you want to get illicits goods across a border, your best chances of doing it undetected will be to use people on both sides of it who have 100% legitimate reasons for being there, and will therefore arouse the least amount of suspicion about their activity. That pretty much rules out entrusting the task to illegal immigrants or anyone who doesn't even a valid passport. If you want to smuggle people across a border, your best chances of doing it undetected will be to make sure those people are doing the very least possible to attract unnecessary attention to themselves, which pretty much rules out having them or allowing them to carry illegal drugs, weapons, or anything else with them that border security are going to be on the lookout for.

In other words, your theory that smuggling weapons or explosives goes hand in hand with illegal immigrants sneaking into the country is so full of holes it hardly bears thinking about at all.
Are you seriously trying to suggest that out of the hundreds of thousands of migrants that have travelled through Europe in the last year or so and in particular this latest mass exodus over the sumer that no terrorists or illegal substances or weapons have come along with them.

Get a grip fella.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Are you seriously trying to suggest that out of the hundreds of thousands of migrants that have travelled through Europe in the last year or so and in particular this latest mass exodus over the sumer that no terrorists or illegal substances or weapons have come along with them.

Get a grip fella.
Here here spot on its happened the one bomber/shooter came through Greece on the 3rd of October. From Syrian.
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
Which part of....these are home grown French terrorists did you not understand, Or are you implying the immigrants filled up the dinghys with guns and bombs?...Living in the western world 'Anything' and I mean anything is available if you know the right person, These ***** were born and bred in France and chose to do what they did!!!
Yep I can see it now, some geezer in muslim garb with a big fury beard going down the dog and duck pub to buy a few grenades and an AK47 off some combat 18 / ex sqaddie / football hooligan / arms dealer / drug dealer.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Are you seriously trying to suggest that out of the hundreds of thousands of migrants that have travelled through Europe in the last year or so and in particular this latest mass exodus over the sumer that no terrorists or illegal substances or weapons have come along with them.

Get a grip fella.
That's the liberal mindset sadly. It's like someone smoking all their life and then being surprised when they get lung cancer. The warning signs were all around, others warned them, but they were just ignorant.

For France's sake I hope they get Le Pen elected in the 2017 presidential elections. The failed policy of multiculturalism, which we are now seeing the fruits of, needs to be stopped ASAP. Countries need to start integrating these people into society. Huge numbers of people who are very different culturally, and don't assimilate with the rest of society was always going to equal trouble for the future.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Are you seriously trying to suggest that out of the hundreds of thousands of migrants that have travelled through Europe in the last year or so and in particular this latest mass exodus over the sumer that no terrorists or illegal substances or weapons have come along with them.

Get a grip fella.
omg what a dreamer they didn't even have passports checked let alone belongings, they could of brought anything over with them, he even mentions border security i aint laughed that hard in ages

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This petition looks all the more relevant now.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
This petition looks all the more relevant now.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477
and this

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

It's had 3,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
and this

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

It's had 3,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes.
Thanks, signed!

That is seriously getting some signatures! Middle finger up at the terrorists and liberal halfwits who are essentially backing them with their naivety!

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