The 2015-2016 Manchester United Thread
#121
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I wouldn't drop Rooney, just wouldn't put him as striker. I'd put Anonihy martial up front with Rooney behind him.
Rooney was mega in defence and saved the team loosing.
Also just found this which backs up what i was saying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0368fn0
Rooney was mega in defence and saved the team loosing.
Also just found this which backs up what i was saying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0368fn0
#122
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That was akin to an FA Cup game against the Saints many moons ago when they did us in the pens.
Another shocker, some sort of consistancy would be nice.
Another shocker, some sort of consistancy would be nice.
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Results went our way yesterday that is for sure.
Btw did anyone watch that Class of '92 documentary about Salford City? I really enjoyed it so shame only two episodes. Butt must have been a silent partner as not sure he said a word in the entire programme. Nice house he has though! Pissed myself when Gary calls up Scholesy - wassup Gaz. Will you play next week? Nah man I am fat as **** at the moment. LMAO. You can see why the Neville brothers have got as far as they have post playing career.
Btw did anyone watch that Class of '92 documentary about Salford City? I really enjoyed it so shame only two episodes. Butt must have been a silent partner as not sure he said a word in the entire programme. Nice house he has though! Pissed myself when Gary calls up Scholesy - wassup Gaz. Will you play next week? Nah man I am fat as **** at the moment. LMAO. You can see why the Neville brothers have got as far as they have post playing career.
#125
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I'm not sure about anyone else but i find it hard to watch this current United side, LVG is slowly turning them into one of the dullest sides to watch in the premier league. United have always been about attacking, flowing football where the flair players are allowed to do their thing.
To be honest be glad when LVG has gone, he's not a good fit for United, someone like Jurgen Klopp would have been perfect.
While he remains in charge i see much more for the same for quite some time, Rooney under LVG seems to be un-droppable regardless of how poor his form gets. For me it should be Martial up front as he's the future, i don't understand why he plays 2 holding midfielders either, it's hardly positive.
To be honest be glad when LVG has gone, he's not a good fit for United, someone like Jurgen Klopp would have been perfect.
While he remains in charge i see much more for the same for quite some time, Rooney under LVG seems to be un-droppable regardless of how poor his form gets. For me it should be Martial up front as he's the future, i don't understand why he plays 2 holding midfielders either, it's hardly positive.
Last edited by The Joshua Tree; 11 November 2015 at 12:07 AM.
#128
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Never been a fan of Rooney, he was ok when he first came on the scene, but never really fulfilled his potential, not really world class or one I would put side by side with the likes of Messe,Brazilian Renaldo, Pele, Maddona and the list goes on and on.
Ok he's one of the highest scorers for Man U and England, but just doesn't light a fire under me, I'd rather watch Ian Wright, Henry, Gazza or even the famous goal hanger Linecar for shear entertainment value.
Ok he's one of the highest scorers for Man U and England, but just doesn't light a fire under me, I'd rather watch Ian Wright, Henry, Gazza or even the famous goal hanger Linecar for shear entertainment value.
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Rooney has never been one to set games alight, apart from the occasional flash of brilliance (Volley against Newcastle). But he is incredibly hard working, committed and very good at everything. There isn't any area of his game that is lacking. Maybe he could score more goals, but a lot of that is to do with confidence and a lack of service. I think rooneys current slump is more to do with what's around him, rather than his lack of ability. He needs to be given a free role behind a central striker, where he can be free to drop deep, create and get forward when he needs to. But have we got a good enough striker to play in front of him?
#131
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His first touch can be poor, and when i say poor it can be schoolboy standard, he mis-controls the ball a lot and loses possession. He's excellent at giving the ball away, he's got that down to a fine art. This hasn't been happening just this season, he's been in decline for at least the last couple of seasons.
Man United could get a hell of a lot more for their money than Wayne Rooney, he's been reported as being on around £300k a week, give me Thomas Muller over him any day of the week.
Last edited by The Joshua Tree; 15 November 2015 at 07:30 PM.
#133
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Admittedly hes not been at his best at resent seasons, but how many strickers track back in defence and play a key part in defending and attack, not many, there's alot of strikers that do next to no defending, to me Rooneys best feature is his work rate. Midfield is where he belongs.
I was nice to watch Unicef charity football match, see a glimpse of what ex world class players can do.
I was nice to watch Unicef charity football match, see a glimpse of what ex world class players can do.
#134
He needs to adapt, change his position, the days of being a gung ho young gun are almost certainly gone, he's not a 19 year old Martial or Lingard, he's Wayne Rooney
Mu captain, England capt, Eng top goalscorer, uniteds 2nd highest goalscorer of all time, 3rd highest Eng appearances for an outfield player - phenomenal career & player for us since he signed in 2004
One of our best signings ever, possibly 2nd best after the King C
#136
No
However as we all know that's not the way football contracts work, players and agents demand the market value +, at signing on time, the contracts valid for 'X' years, if the players don't sign lengthy contracts you loose them for nothing
When players are playing out of their skin every week were happy to have them, the minute they dip people want to offload, it's just not that easy
for me I'm a Rooney fan, I'd rather have had him than lost him to another club
Is Martial worth the figure we paid for him as a 19 year old, 'Er yes' and his day rate for a 19 year old will be obscene
I bet Citeeh fans are saying, f()ck's sake why did we pay millions for Sterling, look at his weekly pay, he's been poor since arriving there, but again market forces dictated his transfer fee and day rate
look recently at Falcao, Torres, Carrol player after player that's earned zillions and never gave a decent return
The good thing is we all want the best for United, football being football were all great armchair managers and I bet we all thought we were way better players than we really were when we pulled on or still pull on the boots... hehe
However as we all know that's not the way football contracts work, players and agents demand the market value +, at signing on time, the contracts valid for 'X' years, if the players don't sign lengthy contracts you loose them for nothing
When players are playing out of their skin every week were happy to have them, the minute they dip people want to offload, it's just not that easy
for me I'm a Rooney fan, I'd rather have had him than lost him to another club
Is Martial worth the figure we paid for him as a 19 year old, 'Er yes' and his day rate for a 19 year old will be obscene
I bet Citeeh fans are saying, f()ck's sake why did we pay millions for Sterling, look at his weekly pay, he's been poor since arriving there, but again market forces dictated his transfer fee and day rate
look recently at Falcao, Torres, Carrol player after player that's earned zillions and never gave a decent return
The good thing is we all want the best for United, football being football were all great armchair managers and I bet we all thought we were way better players than we really were when we pulled on or still pull on the boots... hehe
#137
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if ever there was an argument that market forces don't always produce good value
Andy Carrol was it - didn't he cost Liverpool 30 Million
he is a good player but on that valuation Messi/Ronaldo would be worth 250million
Andy Carrol was it - didn't he cost Liverpool 30 Million
he is a good player but on that valuation Messi/Ronaldo would be worth 250million
#138
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So Rooney and Martial both out tomorrow, surely this should encourage LVG to get another striker onboard.
I wonder if he'll show any faith in Wilson
I wonder if he'll show any faith in Wilson
#139
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Well said
Van Gaal said Wlsin not fit for 90 mins, so might play him near the end if needed.
Van Gaal said Wlsin not fit for 90 mins, so might play him near the end if needed.
You have to laugh,why do people always come out with this, Rooney has nothing to prove.
He needs to adapt, change his position, the days of being a gung ho young gun are almost certainly gone, he's not a 19 year old Martial or Lingard, he's Wayne Rooney
Mu captain, England capt, Eng top goalscorer, uniteds 2nd highest goalscorer of all time, 3rd highest Eng appearances for an outfield player - phenomenal career & player for us since he signed in 2004
One of our best signings ever, possibly 2nd best after the King C
He needs to adapt, change his position, the days of being a gung ho young gun are almost certainly gone, he's not a 19 year old Martial or Lingard, he's Wayne Rooney
Mu captain, England capt, Eng top goalscorer, uniteds 2nd highest goalscorer of all time, 3rd highest Eng appearances for an outfield player - phenomenal career & player for us since he signed in 2004
One of our best signings ever, possibly 2nd best after the King C
Last edited by jaygsi; 20 November 2015 at 09:14 PM.
#141
Rooney, Martial, Carrick, Fellaini and Valencia all out
I've looked out my boots, and given Louis a text that I'm available if required (I wish)
Maybe this could be our next signing Leroy Sane or hot of the press Daniele Rugani (Juve)
I've looked out my boots, and given Louis a text that I'm available if required (I wish)
Maybe this could be our next signing Leroy Sane or hot of the press Daniele Rugani (Juve)
Last edited by elgassi; 20 November 2015 at 10:32 PM.
#144
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Leicester will provide one of Utd's toughest tests to date. They play like a swarm of locusts on the counter attack and are phenomenal at the moment.
Plus, Vardy is on a mission to break Van Nistilroy's record so tactically Utd have to be spot on, otherwise it will end in tears.
I think it may be a draw despite Leicester being the highest scoring team, however outside the bottom 6 teams they have leaked most goals.
Whatever the result it will be a cracking game.
Plus, Vardy is on a mission to break Van Nistilroy's record so tactically Utd have to be spot on, otherwise it will end in tears.
I think it may be a draw despite Leicester being the highest scoring team, however outside the bottom 6 teams they have leaked most goals.
Whatever the result it will be a cracking game.
#147
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That was a very good win on saturday considering the amount of players that were missing, 2 wide players up front, a winger at right back and no recognised left back in the starting 11. It didn't help losing Herrera fairly early on, United were well on top up until that point then they had to change their formation to 3 at the back to accomodate losing Herrera. I liked how United came back after it went 1-1, a good away 3pts.
Last edited by The Joshua Tree; 23 November 2015 at 12:56 PM.
#149
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If the price was right then yes.
Why ?
Because he's a genuine world class player and he's far better than anything we currently have, he's a match winner, he frightens the opposition and he's a proven world class goal scorer. He's probably still got around 2 - 3 years left at the top, apart from Martial we don't have one outfield attacking player that excites me, we used to have United teams where 1 - 11 would excite you never mind just one player.
Why ?
Because he's a genuine world class player and he's far better than anything we currently have, he's a match winner, he frightens the opposition and he's a proven world class goal scorer. He's probably still got around 2 - 3 years left at the top, apart from Martial we don't have one outfield attacking player that excites me, we used to have United teams where 1 - 11 would excite you never mind just one player.
Last edited by The Joshua Tree; 23 November 2015 at 04:42 PM.