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Old May 13, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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Did I say some were a tad bitter about the Tories winning a majority?

More like so wound up they might as well reserve a bed on the stroke ward

I must say I'm enjoying their frustration and anger greatly. I find their reaction (to paraphrase our PM) 'the sweetest victory of all'
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Old May 13, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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Actually, if THEY stuck to the rules and the UK ENFORCED the rules, we'd end up with an extremely small number.

It's not asylum seekers that get me, the genuine ones anyway, NOT the ones that have crossed 13 countries to get to the UK, it's the illegals, the economic migrants and those who come here for benefits and to beg...and yes they DO exist, in large numbers.

We CANNOT afford them, sorry.
We could if Cameron hadn't spent the money bombing their country, but then again in that case we wouldn't need to!
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Old May 13, 2015 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Did I say some were a tad bitter about the Tories winning a majority?

More like so wound up they might as well reserve a bed on the stroke ward

I must say I'm enjoying their frustration and anger greatly. I find their reaction (to paraphrase our PM) 'the sweetest victory of all'


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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar

It's not asylum seekers that get me, the genuine ones anyway, NOT the ones that have crossed 13 countries to get to the UK, .
How do the genuine ones get here?
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:33 PM
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Typically first and second gen incomers are more resistant to any fresh settlers
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:37 PM
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Typically first and second gen incomers are more resistant to any fresh settlers
I did notice that the first time I came to the UK. Most Indian looking older-than-me people ignore you first on the streets. Even now, if I encounter an Indian or Pakistani in Cheshire Oaks, Liverpool or in Manchester, they look at me with some anger in their eyes, and then just blank me; as if to say: "What the fvvk are you doing here?". I now look back in the same way, and blank them; as if to say: "What the fvvk are you still doing here???"
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
I did notice that the first time I came to the UK. Most Indian looking older-than-me people ignore you first on the streets. Even now, if I encounter an Indian or Pakistani in Cheshire Oaks, Liverpool or in Manchester, they look at me with some anger in their eyes, and then just blank me; as if to say: "What the fvvk are you doing here?". I now look back in the same way, and blank them; as if to say: "What the fvvk are you still doing here???"
Selfish *******s could've dropped dead by now, eh!
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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Selfish *******s could've dropped dead by now, eh!
I don't wish that to anyone. The only thing I wish is that they don't sprinkle red chilli on their fish and chips in public. It looks really bad, you know.


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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:07 PM
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In amongst all this has anyone actually asked them if they want to come here? Come to the UK, its prime minister is the man that bombed your country and is the reason you're seeking asylum in the first place. Oh and England is full of self centred mean greedy ****ers who voted for the **** and hate scroungers like you! That should be enough to keep them away
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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
In amongst all this has anyone actually asked them if they want to come here? Come to the UK, its prime minister is the man that bombed your country and is the reason you're seeking asylum in the first place. Oh and England is full of self centred mean greedy ****ers who voted for the **** and hate scroungers like you! That should be enough to keep them away
Give it a fukin rest will you.
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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:39 PM
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Give it a fukin rest will you.
No, if you don't like it don't read it! After all we all have to put up with your establishment sympathising over and over and over!
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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No, if you don't like it don't read it! After all we all have to put up with your establishment sympathising over and over and over!
Yes my 'establishment sympathising' is all that matters, because that's why I get up in the morning so I can sympathise with the establishment.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 06:35 AM
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Old May 14, 2015 | 06:55 AM
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Croatians and Italians as well as a few others like Bosnians etc can travel overland with just their ID card, I have a Croatian ID card and can go across the border into Slovenia then on into Italy and the rest of Europe with it, I have also seen them used at passport control in Triest airport Italy when comming back from UK, so you can go pretty much anywhere with one.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Into UK??
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Old May 14, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
How do the genuine ones get here?
I really don't know, but since INTERNATIONAL LAW says they MUST apply for asylum in the FIRST country they come to after leaving the one they want asylum from, we shouldn't figure...unless they are Irish, french, Dutch or German, or come by air.

All the rest, we should, BY LAW, just deport.

But of course, the loonie left want us to obey only the laws that suit them...or we are racist.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
...unless they are Irish, french, Dutch or German, or come by air.

mmm, I doubt we will get many Irish, french, Dutch or German national claiming asylum in the UK unless the are certifiably insane

in fact the Irish can even vote in our elections, so any Irishman claiming asylum would be well, irish
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Old May 14, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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Work Friend messaged today at Calais ,been queuing since 7.30 train this morning,millions of immigrants.I read this afternoon and was still waiting at 3pm.There's that many immigrants they having to check every truck What was said.Now I know millions is over the top word.but I've been in these situations myself,and I can tell you Calais is no joke about the immigrants is literally hundreds of them and I mean hundreds.just walking hanging around waiting to jump on trucks heading for the UK,and is no where you can go once in the line waiting to get into the docks.The train isn't so bad,but the ports was fecked today because of a bank holiday in Europe.
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Another vote for Cameron then
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Old May 15, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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Work Friend messaged today at Calais ,been queuing since 7.30 train this morning,millions of immigrants.I read this afternoon and was still waiting at 3pm.There's that many immigrants they having to check every truck What was said.Now I know millions is over the top word.but I've been in these situations myself,and I can tell you Calais is no joke about the immigrants is literally hundreds of them and I mean hundreds.just walking hanging around waiting to jump on trucks heading for the UK,and is no where you can go once in the line waiting to get into the docks.The train isn't so bad,but the ports was fecked today because of a bank holiday in Europe.
Been like this for a few years now, chocka with all those immigrants Martin says aren't coming here.

The ports of Calais and Dunkerque now have the boarding waiting areas fenced with 12 foot wire, topped with electrified razor wire and regularly walked by armed CRS with dogs. It's like a fekkin prison.

When I towed a box-trailer back up to Calais, I had to veer round TWO groups of what I took to be would be immigrants who jumped out in front of me, waving me down, on the A16 approaching the port. They attempted to stop me, so I slowed, then surged past them. Quite scary really.
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Old May 15, 2015 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Been like this for a few years now, chocka with all those immigrants Martin says aren't coming here.

The ports of Calais and Dunkerque now have the boarding waiting areas fenced with 12 foot wire, topped with electrified razor wire and regularly walked by armed CRS with dogs. It's like a fekkin prison.

When I towed a box-trailer back up to Calais, I had to veer round TWO groups of what I took to be would be immigrants who jumped out in front of me, waving me down, on the A16 approaching the port. They attempted to stop me, so I slowed, then surged past them. Quite scary really.
Hahahaha aren't coming.He needs to spend a week camped at Calais.This is the difference between people like us who travel around Europe and see these things in reality,and the difference with what the news reports and government statistics..I trust what my own eyes see for real more than I trust politicians.
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Old May 15, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DYK
I trust what my own eyes see for real more than I trust politicians.
Fair comment, but to be honest that would still be the case if I were blind!
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Been like this for a few years now, chocka with all those immigrants Martin says aren't coming here.

The ports of Calais and Dunkerque now have the boarding waiting areas fenced with 12 foot wire, topped with electrified razor wire and regularly walked by armed CRS with dogs. It's like a fekkin prison.

When I towed a box-trailer back up to Calais, I had to veer round TWO groups of what I took to be would be immigrants who jumped out in front of me, waving me down, on the A16 approaching the port. They attempted to stop me, so I slowed, then surged past them. Quite scary really.
For the sake of accuracy (not your strong point I know), could you point out where I said any such thing?
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LOL, every time anyone mentions the number of immigrants who come here, you are at pains to point out we only take a small number compared to other countries.

Every time.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
LOL, every time anyone mentions the number of immigrants who come here, you are at pains to point out we only take a small number compared to other countries.

Every time.
Err no you are once again wrong.

You are confusing migrants, asylum seekers, and illegal immigration.

On the former we demonstrably have (and need) lots. On asylum seekers we accept about 10% of the number Germany do, and proportionate to our GDP less than most EU countries. And finally on illegals, well who knows, given that they're illegal they shouldn't be here and the numbers are unknown (not sure that I've ever said anything about the numbers of illegals).

So 'every time' is actually NEVER. I'm still awaiting the day when you are actually right about something.
I'll not hold my breath

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You bullsh!t every time, don't you?

We don NOT need any more migrants. END OF, so stop your whining.

Asylum seekers? asylum from where? You know the law as well as I do now, so we shouldn't really take any.

And illegals? Well, we have FAR to many of those too and thanks to your lot, everyone is afraid of getting shut in case they get labelled racist.

So, yes, you do reckon we don't take many. Stop trying to split hairs and go back to your shrine to Chuka...oh, sorry, he's out now, go off and cry then. LOL

PS: I await your foul-mouthed response, which is what happens every time you end up looking daft. I'm not holding my breath either
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Fair comment, but to be honest that would still be the case if I were blind!
Touché
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Originally Posted by alcazar
You bullsh!t every time, don't you?

We don NOT need any more migrants. END OF, so stop your whining.

Asylum seekers? asylum from where? You know the law as well as I do now, so we shouldn't really take any.

And illegals? Well, we have FAR to many of those too and thanks to your lot, everyone is afraid of getting shut in case they get labelled racist.

So, yes, you do reckon we don't take many. Stop trying to split hairs and go back to your shrine to Chuka...oh, sorry, he's out now, go off and cry then. LOL

PS: I await your foul-mouthed response, which is what happens every time you end up looking daft. I'm not holding my breath either
Nice blustering.

I don't do 'foul mouthed' responses.
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Another little lie...you called me foul names not two months ago.
Suck on that.
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