Should we take on more assylum seekers
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But if you earn under the threshold before leaving? You get it all back? And while you're here, you can claim benefits for any children still at home.
Nett takers, face up to it man.
The only things they have done for the UK is to make the rich richer, and make our youth mostly unemployed.
Liebour have conned a generation.
Nett takers, face up to it man.
The only things they have done for the UK is to make the rich richer, and make our youth mostly unemployed.
Liebour have conned a generation.
if earn less than a certain amount you dont pay tax , like anyone then ...
do you mean reclaim vat maybe ?
the poor have a habit of linning the rich'd pocket throughout history throughout the world
if you can find an actually case of someone outside eea getting child benefit for those at home please elucidate
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The African continent is a ticking bomb as regards population growth of the uneducated and unskilled. Ultimately there will come a time where strict border controls for wealthy developed countries will not be up for debate.
This is not a subject we should be embracing.
This is not a subject we should be embracing.
if earn less than a certain amount you dont pay tax , like anyone then ...
do you mean reclaim vat maybe ?
the poor have a habit of linning the rich'd pocket throughout history throughout the world
if you can find an actually case of someone outside eea getting child benefit for those at home please elucidate
do you mean reclaim vat maybe ?
the poor have a habit of linning the rich'd pocket throughout history throughout the world
if you can find an actually case of someone outside eea getting child benefit for those at home please elucidate
When you start work, you are given a tax code according to your status. You are then taxed via PAYE, yes?
If you stop work during the year, you will have earned less than your projected earnings, so can claim tax back. My eldest does it after summer work during his time studying for a mech eng degree.
thus you can earn quite a bit of money and get any tax paid back if you give up the job.
Anyone doing that becomes a nett taker.
And don't even THINK of mentioning my son, who has already worked ten years........
Who said anything about outside the eea? WHY THE HELL should we pay for anyone's kids that aren't here anyway, whether eea or not????????
Forgot to mention: these Eastern European migrants have also kept wages down...not good for the other workers. Even Lieing Labour noted that.
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ok , well i have some sympathy re EU migrants - iv no idea what the answer is here , except being able to claim for those back home is mad .
of the non eea i know most are self emp , so all different .
And they do the most menial jobs , because they have to not because theyre not qualified to do more
of the non eea i know most are self emp , so all different .
And they do the most menial jobs , because they have to not because theyre not qualified to do more
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Are you serious? I'm not.
But you've been saying they're all coming here to claim benefits, and anyone who doesn't believe this is seriously deluded. Now you're worried about how much tax they'll pay when working. Make your mind up. Also, if you are so concerned about how much tax people pay, why not turn your attention to the tax gap in this country (£122Bn last year, much more than the entire benefits budget). People like the Daily Mail's Lord Rothermere pay no income tax here. He had to pledge allegiance to France to get his non-dom status, yet sits in the House of Lords (when he can be bothered). Have a go at him instead.
But if they are on low-paid jobs and claiming for kids back home, that's benefits? Plus free NHS care, free education for any kids here and often, social housing.
I seriously think we are screwed.
I seriously think we are screwed.
If the tax dodging corporations and individuals who are already rich coughed up the tax they owe, we could afford to do very many things about helping our own people, and have plenty left over to help others, such as refugees from places the UK has f**ked with. It's the rich and powerful that are screwing this country, not the poor and powerless, or the debt burdened. Rothermere, Murdoch et al are whipping up hysteria about poor people coming to take over your life, to distract from the fact that the 'elite' are effectively looting all the wealth created by us over time.
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If the tax dodging corporations and individuals who are already rich coughed up the tax they owe, we could afford to do very many things about helping our own people, and have plenty left over to help others, such as refugees from places the UK has f**ked with. It's the rich and powerful that are screwing this country, not the poor and powerless, or the debt burdened. Rothermere, Murdoch et al are whipping up hysteria about poor people coming to take over your life, to distract from the fact that the 'elite' are effectively looting all the wealth created by us over time.
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If the tax dodging corporations and individuals who are already rich coughed up the tax they owe, we could afford to do very many things about helping our own people, and have plenty left over to help others, such as refugees from places the UK has f**ked with. It's the rich and powerful that are screwing this country, not the poor and powerless, or the debt burdened. Rothermere, Murdoch et al are whipping up hysteria about poor people coming to take over your life, to distract from the fact that the 'elite' are effectively looting all the wealth created by us over time.
set the poor against the even poorer
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Sure, I am sure thing change re outside the EEA
But last year I had a back operation performed by an Egyptian surgeon
Pays a lot of tax, and the British tax payer did not even train or support during his early years
Great value
But last year I had a back operation performed by an Egyptian surgeon
Pays a lot of tax, and the British tax payer did not even train or support during his early years
Great value
If the tax dodging corporations and individuals who are already rich coughed up the tax they owe, we could afford to do very many things about helping our own people, and have plenty left over to help others, such as refugees from places the UK has f**ked with. It's the rich and powerful that are screwing this country, not the poor and powerless, or the debt burdened. Rothermere, Murdoch et al are whipping up hysteria about poor people coming to take over your life, to distract from the fact that the 'elite' are effectively looting all the wealth created by us over time.
Ah, yes, but if governments forced them to pay what they SHOULD, where would ex-ministers find employment after they leave office, if not as directors of these corporations?
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If you can get past the fact it's in The Fail, this article is worth a read:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...g-country.html
I don't necessarily agree, but think it's an honest piece.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...g-country.html
I don't necessarily agree, but think it's an honest piece.
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After seeing a snippet on Ch4 news last night on how Syrian men treat their women an daughters ( same old story) I rather not have these predominantly male Syrians being given a rehomed here either.Their culture and ideals is far to malaligned from ours that it will seek to increase the divisiveness in our country. We already hear far too many storys where UK ethnics have been responsible for atrocities against women, it's bad enough controlling the White paedo rings, so letting in a load of wive beaters and child sellers is only going to create more issues than it solves.
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I'd rather we concentrate on re-homing the ex-servicemen who are out on the streets after leaving he forces.
They were sent out to these war zones at the whim of the governments and once back receive little support. We should put these ex-servicemen and their families as our priority as they have served the government.
I'd rather see these men and women who have shown their loyalty to the country helped and dare I say it, rewarded, for what they did. I'm sure that the respect, discipline and ability to follow orders would make them much more of a worthwhile contributor than those simply looking to come somewhere new, not just on a financial standpoint but also on factors like our ex-servicemen already have British values and a grasp of our laws and culture ingrained.
They were sent out to these war zones at the whim of the governments and once back receive little support. We should put these ex-servicemen and their families as our priority as they have served the government.
I'd rather see these men and women who have shown their loyalty to the country helped and dare I say it, rewarded, for what they did. I'm sure that the respect, discipline and ability to follow orders would make them much more of a worthwhile contributor than those simply looking to come somewhere new, not just on a financial standpoint but also on factors like our ex-servicemen already have British values and a grasp of our laws and culture ingrained.
After seeing a snippet on Ch4 news last night on how Syrian men treat their women an daughters ( same old story) I rather not have these predominantly male Syrians being given a rehomed here either.Their culture and ideals is far to malaligned from ours that it will seek to increase the divisiveness in our country. We already hear far too many storys where UK ethnics have been responsible for atrocities against women, it's bad enough controlling the White paedo rings, so letting in a load of wive beaters and child sellers is only going to create more issues than it solves.
We already have film of some guy chucking his wife and young baby onto train tracks, then pushing her down again when she tried to get up.
And little Aylan's father saved himself.......
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sacked for helping police stop a suspect running away,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34195135
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34195135
If you can get past the fact it's in The Fail, this article is worth a read:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...g-country.html
I don't necessarily agree, but think it's an honest piece.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...g-country.html
I don't necessarily agree, but think it's an honest piece.
He's right on the money, of course.
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After seeing a snippet on Ch4 news last night on how Syrian men treat their women an daughters ( same old story) I rather not have these predominantly male Syrians being given a rehomed here either.Their culture and ideals is far to malaligned from ours that it will seek to increase the divisiveness in our country. We already hear far too many storys where UK ethnics have been responsible for atrocities against women, it's bad enough controlling the White paedo rings, so letting in a load of wive beaters and child sellers is only going to create more issues than it solves.
I'd rather we concentrate on re-homing the ex-servicemen who are out on the streets after leaving he forces.
They were sent out to these war zones at the whim of the governments and once back receive little support. We should put these ex-servicemen and their families as our priority as they have served the government.
I'd rather see these men and women who have shown their loyalty to the country helped and dare I say it, rewarded, for what they did. I'm sure that the respect, discipline and ability to follow orders would make them much more of a worthwhile contributor than those simply looking to come somewhere new, not just on a financial standpoint but also on factors like our ex-servicemen already have British values and a grasp of our laws and culture ingrained.
They were sent out to these war zones at the whim of the governments and once back receive little support. We should put these ex-servicemen and their families as our priority as they have served the government.
I'd rather see these men and women who have shown their loyalty to the country helped and dare I say it, rewarded, for what they did. I'm sure that the respect, discipline and ability to follow orders would make them much more of a worthwhile contributor than those simply looking to come somewhere new, not just on a financial standpoint but also on factors like our ex-servicemen already have British values and a grasp of our laws and culture ingrained.
