JackClark

My phone is downstairs, I'm upstairs, does that make a difference? Yesterday a friends lovely child hid my iPhone, I tapped my wrist and found my phone. My phone doesn't have a heart rate monitor. My phone doesn't tap me on the wrist, it vibrates, flashes and makes noises. My phone's not on my wrist.

Look, I don't mind being your imagination but perhaps you could take a photo with a loaf of bread on your head in return.

dpb

Right we've got that sorted then , its essentially a remote

dpb

16 bleedin pages but got there in the end

Devildog

Whatever it does that its wearer finds useful. And that will be different for different people, hence the abundance of different apps developed/in development.

Most people are not "Superman" Matt. Most people who buy it for the fitness apps will be more than happy with its limitations because of the other features and apps available.

The watch I'm wearing now is 100m water resistant (properly so by way of screw down crown and pushers no less) but I wouldn't wear it mountain biking in the rain let alone during some water based activity in the sea. I've got a cheap and robust G shock for that which, if it gets damaged (likely) or lost isn't going to be particularly upsetting.

You don't "need" a six pot rear wheel drive hatchback. You want one
You don't "need" a 100m water resistant GPS watch (to run up a hill). You merely want one.

JackClark

Just held my remotes to my wrist, none of them worked as an Apple watch, but the remote app for the Apple TV is excellent and always there right on my wrist.

Keep going, we've now established the fact that the Apple Watch is an excellent remote control, works for Samsung TV's, Apple TV's, iPhone music app and even Tesla cars. In another 16 pages you might find some of the more advanced features.

Matteeboy

I do need a 100m fitness watch; to track my sea swims (judging distance when swimming is incredibly hard without one).
I do need a six pot engine; to one-up those pesky four pot upstarts

My surfing watch (G shock) retails at £150; by some error, it was on Amazon for £12. I was rather pleased! My £250 G shock (Giez) was £95 too.

dpb

Fair enough , but lets move away from the sports theme


. Nobody can be expected to swim with an iphone

JackClark

You swim down to 100m, that's awesome.

Matteeboy

You've already done that one and had it explained in simple terms...

I did free dive to 12.5 metres in the Med. I won't do that again in a hurry.

jonc

So for someone who professes to be a staunch anti-racist supporter, it's ok to make thinly veiled racist remarks as long as you feel there is valid reason. I see.... Maybe you should go post your diatribe in the "Racist smart watch" thread instead.

f1_fan

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No you don't see, that's the problem and always has been with you. I give as good as I get, that is it plain and simple. Had you not resorted to suggest Mattee is "sucking my virtual ****" no such comment would have been forthcoming from me.

Now **** off before I say something I may actually regret!

JackClark

So you don't need a watch that's water resistant to 100m, not even 13.

jonc

Like I said, you feel the virtual **** remark is a valid reason to make a joke about my ethnicity, then so be it, call a spade a spade. Don't regret anything, just say what you like, it's never stopped you before, if you mean I should **** off back to my ancestral homeland, well I don't do requests. You call me out in post #282, I've just respond in kind.

f1_fan

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jonc

Since the Watch has relegated his iPhone 6+ to his pocket for the rest of it's working life, it'll make it more likely to bend.

Matteeboy

I refer to the link on water resistant standards posted two days ago.
You seem to struggle with the basics of water resistance just as you struggle with forming a balanced opinion of anything containing the hallowed Apple logo.

JackClark

You own more Apple products than me and I own more Suunto than you.

This is about your need for a watch that is water resistant to 100m, you insist that you do when as far as I can see you don't. You just want it, and there's nothing wrong with that, I just wanted an Apple watch, I bought one. Is it good enough for real sports like underwater bike riding or skydiving from space, probably not if you want to keep your warranty, is it a great device for sports, yes it is.

Matteeboy

100m water resistance is the minimum you need to swim and surf with.
If you went down to 100m you'd (or I) implode as would the watch; it's just a slightly weird standard made up decades ago. It has almost naff all to do with actual depth.
As I found out to my cost, even 12.5m without equalising is bloody dangerous; my ears both "burst" then I felt sick for a day and shook like a leaf. Could have easily drowned but sometimes my determination takes over; I dived down to get a nice diving mask for my son on the seabed off Majorca; we still have it and somehow I can still hear.
The depth reading came from the inlaws yacht I dived from.

JackClark

This is where we disagree, I don't believe 100m resistance is needed to surf and swim.

Matteeboy

Do a wiki on it.

dpb

LOL, it's a red herring, so we'll jack knows. - he's just keeping the thread ticking over

The real point is its semi useless as a sports watch without having phone in your pocket

JackClark

It's more useful than anything else on the market and it's only a week old. I'm still really enjoying it, even with six of you trying to **** on the bonfire.

dpb

I don't quite think it's so.

There's clearly a discrepancy with what is classed as a sports watch, which you've played to your/apples advantage.

JackClark

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/05/...p-apple-watch/

Nice. Shame it can't do that whilst riding a bike at 100m below the surf.

JackClark

I did sport today wearing my sport watch, it knew I was doing sport and logged it towards my excersise goals, was it a dream or does that sound kind of sporty.

Matteeboy

Oh yes, VW, that reliable brand.

Oh...

JackClark

Porsche support Apple watch too if that's your bag. No doubt BMW will fall into line soon. BMW's can't be a sports car though because they can't do 250mph underwater, rubbish.

lozgti1

lol

Heard these watches will be able to park your car soon.Porsche bmw or wahatever..

JackClark

Yup. It's tomorrow's world today. Game changing.

Devildog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark

It's primarily about the ability of the seals to withstand ingress due to pressure Jack, not depth. Yes, ultimately the watch will deform or the crystal will shatter, but that's not really the issue in most cases.

P=F/A, as Im sure you know. You can easily have pressures at swiming depths due to movement which are associated with static pressure at greater depths by merely mving your wrist throught the water.

I've got a 50m watch that I woudn't swim with and a 25m watch that I wouldn't wear in a high power shower.

As far as I'm concerned

25m = splash/rain proof
50m = shower proof
100m = swim/snorkel proof
200m + = dive proof

You'd have to be f*cking nuts to swim with an Apple watch - especially in a salt water environment. Too many holes in the case.

Edit to add the link and to note that I'm not far of the mark above.