Sorry, I am not getting this.

Unless I am wrong Shaid is simply saying (admittedly a tad aggressively) that someone finding the West murdering innocent civilians in the name of liberation during an illegal war abhorrent is in many ways more 'normal' than those who sit back and accept it without question or even support it as the right thing to do. Yet in the case outlined this person is the one being ostracised as some sort of extremist weirdo.

It's not hard to see how we have arrived where we are really is it? The views expressed here are a microcosm of the wider problem.

Anyway don't worry lads, if you keep going at the Muslim thing you'll drive Shaid away just as you did banny and then his opinion can't offend you any longer and he won't becoming across badly any more either so no worries

 

You find companion sickening? Seriously... It sounds like you need a humanity check. Those people that tue yanks butchered are human too!

Do I find cartoons offensive? Do I really? Is this another conclusion you are jumping to? I think it is. Whilst I agree they are in poor taste I'm really not bothered. Some muslims obviously are, not me though...

 

Hey

I went to DCY Europe on Saturday to look at an Evo

Nothing to do with he while Muslamic thing. It's just that the demographics of Subaru ownership are changing for he worst. (Plus chocolate engines, poor maintenance, poor image etc are making me look over to the dark side heh)

 

Wow so witty of you. Honestly I feel told now. Woe is me eh... Yawn

Although I do agree most people in this country (and just like yourself i've met most people in the country so can form an accurate opinion) are decent.

Maybe if you stopped looking at the faults of others you might... Ah never mind

 

If you and your chums are to be the Judge of that then I think I'm doing absolutely fine

 

Pretty shocked at the tone of your response here. So just because he was the only person to react/express an opinion, you assume everyone else is 'brainwashed'? Ironically if anyone is going to meet the definition of being 'brainwashed' it's those who are religious.

The fact that British troops were fighting out there alongside US troops tells me your loyalties would not be with the 'Allies' with regards to said conflict.

 

Shaid, like me, probably thinks an illegal war involving the killing of a million civilians at the hands of the West is not good to bordering on a war crime.

I am white, British born and brought up a Catholic and my loyalties are not with the 'Allies' so does that make me a Muslim extremist sympathiser?

At the end of the day marching into countries we have no place being in and carrying out atrocities in the name of Western democracy has brought the likes of the incidents in London and France to our door. We are responsible for that in many ways as we are for the ISIS situation. If people stopped believing the media and government crap and opened their eyes we would probably not be in this mess!

 

Well said

 

Personally speaking my loyalties are with the troops ONLY because they have no choice in where they are sent and why. They are, for want of a better word, cannon fodder.

However I completely disagree with the invasion of Iraq and have absolutely NO loyalty to those that took the decision to send our troops there.

I'm not a muslim and I'm furious about the war, you can imagine how somebody with a cultural, ethnic or religious link to that part of the world might feel.

 

If you don't mind me asking, is your heritage Indian/Sikh, Ding'?

 

Yes JT, Sikh by birth and culture but I'm an atheist.

 

Did we invade Afghanistan and Iraq before or after September 11th?

 

Thanks, Ding. What are your feelings around historic British imperialism?

 

You hate the cross of St George, stereotype anyone who might display the cross of St George, come across aggressive and portray young Muslims as violent thugs.

Who am I to judge? I think you've made yourself perfectly clear.

 

As above

 

My nana is from Egypt (Egyptian) and was born and raised in a Muslim family. My mother was also born in Egypt where she stayed for a few years before coming to England. I also have lots of family with dark skin who speak English as their second language and were also brought up in Muslim families.

I was born and raised in England as well as educated (although not very well) here but could not give one shìt about my Muslim background.
Why so many people like to feel connected with people across the world from a life they haven't lived and distance themselves from the country that provides a safe life and good life for them is madness to me.

Muslims live in small tight communities, wear different clothing, eat different food, walk round the streets speaking a different language despite most likely being able to speak English, cover their women so as not to make men rape them and have values that on occasion conflicts with British values and laws and they wounder why they get treated differently and people are suspicious of them...hmmmm

When in Rome people.

 

OK - so is your justification of your stereotyping certain English folk that someone(s), at some point said some words to you and members of your family? As has been said already 99.9% of people, regardless of race/nationality has had at some point had "words" said to them in a negative fashion. Either because they are fat/thin/tall/short/white/black or green.
FFS man grow up!!! Do you think this makes you more of a victim than anyone else?
If you really think this justifies your stereotyping then christ knows what you'd allow me to get away with.


It's the aggression coupled with what you are saying that is deeply worrying.

Much like a Football hooligan might slap a supporter of another team for saying something.

Lol, I'm gutted that I don't hold much weight on an internet site of people I'm very unlikely to ever meet. Given your comments recently I think you are the last person to talk about credibility.

So you regret saying these things?

 

It will be interesting to know who has met who from here. Not that it changes anything. I mean, just because one meets someone doesn't mean one will agree with everything what that someone will say on the forum. But it will be good to know if someone just throws their weight about here, or do they have some credibility as a human to actually exist in a human shape or form that enables them to type on their laptop. If not, you know......for what we know, it could well be their pet typing away......hurling the abuse to torment the Scoobynet humans here.

 

I often let my cat have a go at some people on here. Her spelling is far better than mine

 

You won't go wrong with a car off Barry
**** all this religion bollocks, I just noticed DCY

Black , white , Muslim , Chinese .......everybody is a **** in my eyes
Religion and politics .......waste of fecking time