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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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Quality lol.

Anyone remember that episode of top gear when jezza bought a five grand kraut barge and it developed a fault that cost many thousands to put right.

While that pos was sitting at the side of the road you could probably go out and buy a cheap rally rep for the price to repair the panza wagon and drive past smiling and waving
Guy buys car when it's worth 5% of the original sale price and it breaks down shocker. FFS you'll have to do bette than that especially considering most 2.5 STIs blow up within a year of original purchase

If nothing else at least the Merc is more comfortable to sit in while waiting for the AA
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Spot on couldn't afford one and they are as reliable as a 2.5 impreza
And the rest, it's a put it away car only
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 11:36 AM
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i own a focus rs mk2 with the cp420 pack on it.ive also owned a standard one.the rs is a great car and once rolling would suprise a few impreza owners to how quick they are.they are quite heavy and have torque restriction in 1st and 2nd so would be well beaten by an impreza off the line.obvioulsy the impreza would out handle the rs but again for its size and the fact its fwd it handles really well.the difference between the standard rs and the cp420 is huge.the 450+ torques helps its lardy **** move quite quickly once rolling.i must admit i miss my sure footed 500+ bhp p1 but i love my rs.when i decide to sell the rs ill be back in a scooby/evo as imho they are pound for pound king

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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by leeroywrx
i own a focus rs mk2 with the cp420 pack on it.ive also owned a standard one.the rs is a great car and once rolling would suprise a few impreza owners to how quick they are.they are quite heavy and have torque restriction in 1st and 2nd so would be well beaten by an impreza off the line.obvioulsy the impreza would out handle the rs but again for its size and the fact its fwd it handles really well.i must admit the difference between the standard rs and the cp420 is huge.the 450+ torques helps its lardy **** move quite quickly once rolling.i must admit i miss my sure footed 500+ bhp p1 but i love my rs.when i decide to sell the rs ill be back in a scooby/evo as imho they are pound for pound king
Finally a valid comment
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by leeroywrx
i own a focus rs mk2 with the cp420 pack on it.ive also owned a standard one.the rs is a great car and once rolling would suprise a few impreza owners to how quick they are.they are quite heavy and have torque restriction in 1st and 2nd so would be well beaten by an impreza off the line.obvioulsy the impreza would out handle the rs but again for its size and the fact its fwd it handles really well.the difference between the standard rs and the cp420 is huge.the 450+ torques helps its lardy **** move quite quickly once rolling.i must admit i miss my sure footed 500+ bhp p1 but i love my rs.when i decide to sell the rs ill be back in a scooby/evo as imho they are pound for pound king
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by veerinder9
Finally a valid comment
whys it more valid than any other comment,just because i like the r.s. has nothing to do with its performance £1500 impreza?

not everyone drives everywhere at 6000 r.p.m,just a majority of new wrx owners fall into this category.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
whys it more valid than any other comment,just because i like the r.s. has nothing to do with its performance £1500 impreza?

not everyone drives everywhere at 6000 r.p.m,just a majority of new wrx owners fall into this category.
It's valid because he has OWN/OWNED both cars and can compare them both. Its still his opinion just as any other but it's more valid as he's owned both.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by veerinder9
It's valid because he has OWN/OWNED both cars and can compare them both. Its still his opinion just as any other but it's more valid as he's owned both.
how can one opinion be more valid than another?
ive had both wrx and sti imprezas and in my opinion the sti is far better but this wont stop wrx owners arguing the toss about it.

its just one persons opinion and everyones different.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by veerinder9
It's valid because he has OWN/OWNED both cars and can compare them both. Its still his opinion just as any other but it's more valid as he's owned both.
An objective opinion as opposed to subjective.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
An objective opinion as opposed to subjective.
so...............still doesnt change MY opinion

thats just his opinion which is different to mine, the problem is scabbynet cant accept any opinion if it isnt in favour of an impreza.

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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
so...............still doesnt change MY opinion
I'm sorry but are we not comparing the rs against the impreza? And not the wrx n sti thats been done to death.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
so...............still doesnt change MY opinion

thats just his opinion which is different to mine, the problem is scabbynet cant accept any opinion if it isnt in favour of an impreza.
Do you understand the difference between objective and subjective?
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
how can one opinion be more valid than another?
ive had both wrx and sti imprezas and in my opinion the sti is far better but this wont stop wrx owners arguing the toss about it.

its just one persons opinion and everyones different.
Yes you can say that the sti is better but how can u say the rs is better if you haven't owned one? You're entitled to an opinion but it's not factual cz u haven't owned one which makes it less valid than the person who's owned one.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by veerinder9
Yes you can say that the sti is better but how can u say the rs is better if you haven't owned one? You're entitled to an opinion but it's not factual cz u haven't owned one which makes it less valid than the person who's owned one.
jesus.........................who said it was factual?

its just my opinion, i prefer the r.s. to an impreza..........so to me it makes it a better car.

its not based on whether some tool in a wrx got to 60 faster or it went round a track 0.5 slower or anything other than the fact i like it!
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
jesus.........................who said it was factual?

its just my opinion, i prefer the r.s. to an impreza..........so to me it makes it a better car.

its not based on whether some tool in a wrx got to 60 faster or it went round a track 0.5 slower or anything other than the fact i like it!
The way your saying it sounds like its a fact end of. But anyway all i needed to say was that a opinion of someone who's owned both is more valid. That doesn't mean your opinion is non valid but it just wouldn't be taken seriously as you have owned a rs. That is all i need to say.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by veerinder9
The way your saying it sounds like its a fact end of. But anyway all i needed to say was that a opinion of someone who's owned both is more valid. That doesn't mean your opinion is non valid but it just wouldn't be taken seriously as you have owned a rs. That is all i need to say.
how can my opinion sound like fact??

i dont care what anyone else thinks or what they have found on you tube of chavs racing on duel carriageways.

i prefer the rs others may not, thats called difference of opinion

to me its a better car based on what i like about it, others may be obsessed with 0-60 times or things about rust but none of these things concern me as im not buying one anyway.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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if you like rs's that much why not go join a ford forum instead of a subaru one?


p.s. i realy dont think they have realised your trolling fatty lol
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
if you like rs's that much why not go join a ford forum instead of a subaru one?


p.s. i realy dont think they have realised your trolling fatty lol
Because I own an impreza, no trolling just a point of view that as usual scabbynet can't take onboard as it's not in favour of the impreza!
Thank god I didn't mention the evo.
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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If there is something I have learnt from this thread Its, take no notice of timed laps from motoring Journalists, manufacturers Ring times or even a test around tsukuba ..........Head over to Youtube for real life street racing videos, that's where the real tests lie
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And again, this thread has turned into the 'Fat-Thomas' show.



Give it a bleeding rest!
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
And again, this thread has turned into the 'Fat-Thomas' show.



Give it a bleeding rest!
If I did you'd have no one to stalk xxx
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Because I own an impreza, no trolling just a point of view that as usual scabbynet can't take onboard as it's not in favour of the impreza!
Thank god I didn't mention the evo.
The evo is a better car than the newage and not the classic imo. And yes I've driven all these cars
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the moral of this 9 page toilet roll.....





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Originally Posted by veerinder9
The evo is a better car than the newage and not the classic imo. And yes I've driven all these cars
In your opinion
Id say it's better than both imprezas and I've owned both
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Because I own an impreza, no trolling just a point of view that as usual scabbynet can't take onboard as it's not in favour of the impreza!
Thank god I didn't mention the evo.
And if you hate this site so much, why continue to post?

Every thread now turns in to a pissing contest, hosted by you. You don't care what anyone else thinks but yet you continuously tell people that they are wrong and you are right. How many times has it been on thread so far? 5, 6...10 times?

Change the record for the love of God!
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
And if you hate this site so much, why continue to post?

Every thread now turns in to a pissing contest, hosted by you. You don't care what anyone else thinks but yet you continuously tell people that they are wrong and you are right. How many times has it been on thread so far? 5, 6...10 times?

Change the record for the love of God!
Where did I say I hate it?? It passes countless hours at work chuckling at sti and rs envy

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Originally Posted by veerinder9
The evo is a better car than the newage and not the classic imo. And yes I've driven all these cars
Have you driven JDM versions though
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Where did I say I hate it?? It passes countless hours at work chuckling at sti and rs envy
When you refured to it as scabbynet.
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Originally Posted by leeroywrx
i own a focus rs mk2 with the cp420 pack on it.ive also owned a standard one.the rs is a great car and once rolling would suprise a few impreza owners to how quick they are.they are quite heavy and have torque restriction in 1st and 2nd so would be well beaten by an impreza off the line.obvioulsy the impreza would out handle the rs but again for its size and the fact its fwd it handles really well.the difference between the standard rs and the cp420 is huge.the 450+ torques helps its lardy **** move quite quickly once rolling.i must admit i miss my sure footed 500+ bhp p1 but i love my rs.when i decide to sell the rs ill be back in a scooby/evo as imho they are pound for pound king
Great comment and I can agree on the 1st, 2nd gear waste of time.
I have a weekend Scoob (see profile pic) and a SEAT Leon TDi BTCC with AMD remap, pushing out over 330 torques. This is soon to be traded for a Cupra/K1 with Revo Stage 2, as I no longer require the mileage from a Diesel.

Even in the TDi 1st and 2nd are a waste of time and much like the Focus RS I expect that the Cupra will be similar.
However, jumping into the Classic Scoob with 330BHP it feels so much more capable and alot more fun to drive, especially in the wet. You can actually nail it alot more through and out of the bends, whereas the SEAT will just flash the amber traction light at every sniff of the throttle. The damn thing even flashes in the dry in 3rd as the torque through the front wheels is like a on/off switch.

Could I justify a Ford RS....perhaps........ But the SEAT Cupra/K1 will return similar performance yet give me 2 more doors for the family to jump in/out, and also save me about 8-10K on the purchase price.

If I were a single man with 20K burning a hole then an RS would be on the list, but as a family man with a weekend Scoob in the garage, it's just never gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
In your opinion
Id say it's better than both imprezas and I've owned both
More of a valid comment
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