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Old 24 December 2014, 01:22 PM
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So what are your reasons for buying a newage WRX over a classic?
Seems to me that you are obsessed with weight saving and quarter mile times, to the point where you're pulling parts off of your car to save grammes.
I see no advantage a newage WRX has over a classic if it's purely quarter mile times that you have in mind.
In an ideal world moulding together a classic with a newage Sti gearbox and engine would make a pretty perfect drag car and daily, and all for less than I'd imagine you paid for your WRX.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
So what are your reasons for buying a newage WRX over a classic?
Seems to me that you are obsessed with weight saving and quarter mile times, to the point where you're pulling parts off of your car to save grammes.
I see no advantage a newage WRX has over a classic if it's purely quarter mile times that you have in mind.
In an ideal world moulding together a classic with a newage Sti gearbox and engine would make a pretty perfect drag car and daily, and all for less than I'd imagine you paid for your WRX.
thing is he has pulled parts of yet has a heavy sti spoiler on the rear

sti envy at its very best!
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Originally Posted by Kwik
So what are your reasons for buying a newage WRX over a classic?
Seems to me that you are obsessed with weight saving and quarter mile times, to the point where you're pulling parts off of your car to save grammes.
I see no advantage a newage WRX has over a classic if it's purely quarter mile times that you have in mind.
In an ideal world moulding together a classic with a newage Sti gearbox and engine would make a pretty perfect drag car and daily, and all for less than I'd imagine you paid for your WRX.
Again, my reasons for choosing a Newage over a Classic is purely subjective.

I've never once argued buying a Newage over a Classic.

My preference for the Newy WRX over the Newy STI is mainly due to the gearbox, efficiency and how much usable power it can get down up to 60mph.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
thing is he has pulled parts of yet has a heavy sti spoiler on the rear

sti envy at its very best!
WRX V-Limited envy to you!

Old 24 December 2014, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Again, my reasons for choosing a Newage over a Classic is purely subjective.

I've never once argued buying a Newage over a Classic.

My preference for the Newy WRX over the Newy STI is mainly due to i cant afford an sti
efa

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fat-tom, your grammar is all over the shop today, are you excited about crimbo?

"is mainly due i cant afford an sti"

You've been spending too much time with fawor at the Pod.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Again, my reasons for choosing a Newage over a Classic is purely subjective. I've never once argued buying a Newage over a Classic. My preference for the Newy WRX over the Newy STI is mainly due to the gearbox, efficiency and how much usable power it can get down up to 60mph.
So what advantage does the WRX gearbox have over the DCCD short ratio gearboxes found on classics (considering several people vouch for them being ok up to and over 400/400)?
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Originally Posted by Kwik
So what advantage does the WRX gearbox have over the DCCD short ratio gearboxes found on classics (considering several people vouch for them being ok up to and over 400/400)?
easy......he cant afford one or have the skills to fit one if he could.
therefore the commonly known weakest gearbox available is the best in cess pit world
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Originally Posted by Kwik
So what advantage does the WRX gearbox have over the DCCD short ratio gearboxes found on classics (considering several people vouch for them being ok up to and over 400/400)?
Again, my preference for the Newage over the classic is purely subjective.

The reason I didn't step up from a Newage WRX to a Newage STI is because the WRX is 20% faster. Ergo an STI will need to be just shy of 400bhp to match me.

Better MPG and cheaper maintenance is just a bonus.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Again, my preference for the Newage over the classic is purely subjective.

The reason I didn't step up from a Newage WRX to a Newage STI is because the WRX is 20% faster. Ergo an STI will need to be just shy of 400bhp to match me.

Better MPG and cheaper maintenance is just a bonus.
Mine did 0.2 slower down the quarter with a passenger and 70bhp less.
Time to step up.
Keep the spoiler and get the car to match
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Joking aside I have noticed the JDM WRX has a different box to the UK WRX, I'm not sure how the ratios would differ.

JDM WRX 3.166 1.882 1.296 0.972 0.738 Final - 4.444
UK WRX 3.454 1.947 1.366 0.972 0.738 Final - 3.900
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Joking aside I have noticed the JDM WRX has a different box to the UK WRX, I'm not sure how the ratios would differ.

JDM WRX 3.166 1.882 1.296 0.972 0.738 Final - 4.444
UK WRX 3.454 1.947 1.366 0.972 0.738 Final - 3.900

My Blobeye JDM WRX goes like fewk!
Old 24 December 2014, 04:41 PM
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http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalc...ission+1+%26+2

Hmm, slightly shorter on the JDM WRX. Might be a nice compromise to get 3rd and 4th singing a bit better.

I'd love to test drive one.

The classic DCCD ratios on the 1995/96 STI RA aren't that bad, 2nd just needs to be a tad longer, but 5th is just ludicrously short. I can't imaging how bad MPG would be if fitted to a lardy Newage.

Heaven knows why the 6 speed has such a short 1st gear though. I'm guessing it's for scenarios on the track when you spin out to a stop and have to move off fast without launching.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
My Blobeye JDM WRX goes like fewk!


Do you have a progress thread? GF?
Old 24 December 2014, 04:59 PM
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2015 WRX S4 V 2015 STI Type S

The STI Type S isn’t markedly different from the car you can trot down to your local Subie store and buy. It gives away a pony or so of our model’s 305 horsepower while bumping the torque up 21 lb-ft to 311. If torqueliness is next to godliness in your garage, this is the Subaru you’ll no doubt be drooling over.

To us, however, the WRX S4 is the more interesting of the pair. The name reeks of cheek. “Why, yes, enthusiasts of turbocharged AWD German cars with a storied rally heritage, we’re going to pluck one of your treasured alphanumerics and stick it on our turbocharged AWD car with a storied rally heritage.” Beyond the blatant pilfer from Audi, the S4 takes Subaru’s new FA engine to power levels near the beloved old EJ that’s still doing duty in the STI. Fuji Heavy Industries has managed to wring 296 horsepower and 295 lb-ft from the new engine.
Shame Subaru are only fitting the S4 with CVT so it doesn't totally blow the slightly more powerful STI away.

Get a 4th cat on it Subaru! Keep taming the b8stard, STI owners are crying into their xmas drinks!
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
The classic DCCD ratios on the 1995/96 STI RA aren't that bad, 2nd just needs to be a tad longer, but 5th is just ludicrously short. I can't imaging how bad MPG would be if fitted to a lardy Newage. Heaven knows why the 6 speed has such a short 1st gear though. I'm guessing it's for scenarios on the track when you spin out to a stop and have to move off fast without launching.
I'm not suggesting fitting a classic 5 speed gearbox to a newage. Your point of having a newage WRX was that you preferred the gearbox over the STI's.
What I'm asking is, what is it that made you choose as you say, a Lardy newage over a lighter classic. We've already stated that the gearboxs are short so what advantage did a newage have over the classic?
What I mean is, elaborate on why rather than keeping on saying 'it's subjective'.

Although I've got a suspicion you've never driven a classic.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I'm not suggesting fitting a classic 5 speed gearbox to a newage. Your point of having a newage WRX was that you preferred the gearbox over the STI's.
What I'm asking is, what is it that made you choose as you say, a Lardy newage over a lighter classic. We've already stated that the gearboxs are short so what advantage did a newage have over the classic?
What I mean is, elaborate on why rather than keeping on saying 'it's subjective'.

Although I've got a suspicion you've never driven a classic.
I've been in a classic, it lasted 2.8 miles.
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I chose a Newage over a Classic as the classics were mainly being sold with warranties in Keighley etc and I stumbled upon a WRX with an STI spoiler at a very respected dealers. TBH I've always preferred the styling of the Blob to the Classics and wrongly believed at the time no classic could be mapped..

I was an EVO owner beforehand and new little about Imps. To me a classic did 4.8secs with 280bhp, a Newy STI 5.2 with 265bhp and a Newy WRX 5.9 with just 225bhp, that was that. I though after a little tuning it'd be just as fast.

I'd still chose a WRX over a classic but only marginally. A JDM WRX is what I'd recommend to someone on the look out for a Scoob, and at a claimed 1360kg, they aren't too far off classic weight. I've read a few tuners remark the engine and transmission is more efficient on the Newage WRX so I guess it's up to looks and age being of importance really.
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One of my biggest gripes with STI owners running big power and especially torque is they always tell me, "my car is brutal Matt, it spins in the first 4 gears."

Alrighty then, that why my 300lbft WRX beats you to the roundabout from the lights then.

My question is if I retain 300-350lbft to protect my rods and gearbox what bhp can a WRX engine running cool take for the odd 11 second blast from the lights etc?
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You're obsessed with weight and quarter mile times, yet bought a heavier, less powerful car.
But your other reason for owning a newage WRX is looks, when obviously the STI is easier on the eye.
I think we can all agree now that you bought the wrong car.

End of thread.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
One of my biggest gripes with STI owners running big power and especially torque is they always tell me, "my car is brutal Matt, it spins in the first 4 gears."

Alrighty then, that why my 300lbft WRX beats you to the roundabout from the lights then.

My question is if I retain 300-350lbft to protect my rods and gearbox what bhp can a WRX engine running cool take for the odd 11 second blast from the lights etc?
Lol u are a comedian
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
One of my biggest gripes with STI owners running big power and especially torque is they always tell me, "my car is brutal Matt, it spins in the first 4 gears."

Alrighty then, that why my 300lbft WRX beats you to the roundabout from the lights then.

My question is if I retain 300-350lbft to protect my rods and gearbox what bhp can a WRX engine running cool take for the odd 11 second blast from the lights etc?
If they are spinning the first 4 gears they are either a crap driver or have a very poorly set up car. Sounds like both
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if you drive a 4wd impreza and it spins in the first four gears its either 1800 bhp or you are full of ****.

only n idiot would believe that story...but that explains a lot
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
if you drive a 4wd impreza and it spins in the first four gears its either 1800 bhp or you are full of ****.

only n idiot would believe that story...but that explains a lot
For once I agree. I spun the wheels in 3rd gear in the wet, in my old mr2 turbo, but there is a reason that they call them ' the widow maker's.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
One of my biggest gripes with STI owners running big power and especially torque is they always tell me, "my car is brutal Matt, it spins in the first 4 gears."

Alrighty then, that why my 300lbft WRX beats you to the roundabout from the lights then.

My question is if I retain 300-350lbft to protect my rods and gearbox what bhp can a WRX engine running cool take for the odd 11 second blast from the lights etc?
Can you get hold of an ounce of what you're smoking for me please
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Originally Posted by AndyBaker
Can you get hold of an ounce of what you're smoking for me please
It's called Unobtanium, after his fantasies
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
It's called Unobtanium, after his fantasies
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
It's called Unobtanium, after his fantasies
from the planet Pandora?
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
fat-tom, your grammar is all over the shop today, are you excited about crimbo?

"is mainly due i cant afford an sti"

You've been spending too much time with fawor at the Pod.
Wrx ppp is crap(sti to) no way i will take mine at the pod to lose with metro, lupo etc.
thats why i convert mine on Lpg-make no difference for it just save few quid.

i haven't sti envy like fat-dan for spec c(spec c roof,wrx carpet on EU import) which he can't afford.
Funny how You modify wrx , sti or any other scoob but it never will be rally car,track car(with road suspension) quarter mile car(to heavy piece of ****) or hill climb car.
During few years I've seen dreamers who sell their project cars during few weeks after they finished them.

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Originally Posted by fawor
Wrx ppp is crap, no way i will take mine at the pod to lose with metro, lupo etc.
thats why i convert mine on Lpg-make no difference for it just save few quid.

i haven't sti envy like fat-dan for spec c(spec c roof,wrx carpet on EU import) which he can't afford.
Funny how You modify wrx , sti or any other scoob but it never will be rally car,track car(with road suspension) quarter mile car(to heavy piece of ****) or hill climb car.
During few years I've seen dreamers who sell their project cars during few weeks after they finished them.
just to correct you as the car washing has fried your head mine is a type uk and the carpet and seats came from a wr1
your spoiler gives me ebay envy


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