Ukip - party of sleeze
11 December 2014, 05:51 PM
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Lol, do you honestly think your life would be better without any muslim or immigrants involvement. You are going to be in for such a shock. If it makes you feel better ISIS have a vision of a utopia without immigrants too.
11 December 2014, 05:56 PM
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They welcome immigrants assuming they're true Sunni Muslims.
11 December 2014, 10:10 PM
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I wish UKIPers would furnish me with the details of what to expect when they come in power. Not IF but WHEN.
How will they deal with the 'muslim' problem? Which country will we be kicked out to? Will there be a choice? Can i go somewhere that is diabetes friendly? How about our assets? After the Muslims are the blacks next?
I need to start thinking long term however with the uncertainty hanging over our heads i cannot make any firm decisions as to what i should do.
How will they deal with the 'muslim' problem? Which country will we be kicked out to? Will there be a choice? Can i go somewhere that is diabetes friendly? How about our assets? After the Muslims are the blacks next?
I need to start thinking long term however with the uncertainty hanging over our heads i cannot make any firm decisions as to what i should do.
Shaid, relax, nobody is kicking you out of the UK.
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12 December 2014, 01:08 AM
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Are you deliberately mixing a religion and a race or have you just forgot the smilie to indicate sarcasm/a joke?
12 December 2014, 11:41 AM
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12 December 2014, 02:08 PM
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I don't think anyone wants to kick out all muslims/blacks/eastern europeans.
As you, yourself, have said, there are millions of peaceful muslims here, doing a decent job, paying taxes etc.
Yes, some could do a better job of integrating. And yes, certainly, we need to be shut of the hate preachers, the rabble rousers, the jihadists etc. But surely they are a tiny minority?
And yes, mainstream muslims need to do a better, louder, more obvious job of denouncing the bad ones.
As for eastern Europeans....well, Lying Labour made our bed, now we must lie in it.
We OUGHT to have restricted entry to those having jobs to come to, jobs no UK person wanted and/or no UK person could fill. We didn't. Other EC states did.
There are certain areas that need low paid immigrants. Local to me, all that's happened is that they come, they do the jobs our youth did for minimum wage, they live ten/twelve to a house, sleeping in shifts and then they go home. Meanwhile, our youth are out of work, branded as lazy and greedy employers are coining it.
I know of one, locally, who made six British trainees redundant, and took on six supposedly fully trained Polish welders. Only two of the trainees were then able to finish their training........but hey, who cares? they are lazy Brits, right? And the company owner? put his sixth brand new car into his seven car garage........
THAT'S what we need to stamp out.
but how the HELL we are going to do it WITHOUT getting out of the EC, since Lying Labour wrecked the floodgates, is beyond me.
As you, yourself, have said, there are millions of peaceful muslims here, doing a decent job, paying taxes etc.
Yes, some could do a better job of integrating. And yes, certainly, we need to be shut of the hate preachers, the rabble rousers, the jihadists etc. But surely they are a tiny minority?
And yes, mainstream muslims need to do a better, louder, more obvious job of denouncing the bad ones.
As for eastern Europeans....well, Lying Labour made our bed, now we must lie in it.
We OUGHT to have restricted entry to those having jobs to come to, jobs no UK person wanted and/or no UK person could fill. We didn't. Other EC states did.
There are certain areas that need low paid immigrants. Local to me, all that's happened is that they come, they do the jobs our youth did for minimum wage, they live ten/twelve to a house, sleeping in shifts and then they go home. Meanwhile, our youth are out of work, branded as lazy and greedy employers are coining it.
I know of one, locally, who made six British trainees redundant, and took on six supposedly fully trained Polish welders. Only two of the trainees were then able to finish their training........but hey, who cares? they are lazy Brits, right? And the company owner? put his sixth brand new car into his seven car garage........
THAT'S what we need to stamp out.
but how the HELL we are going to do it WITHOUT getting out of the EC, since Lying Labour wrecked the floodgates, is beyond me.
12 December 2014, 07:19 PM
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Ooh Mr Thomas you'll be branded a racist for using what you see in your day to day life and forming a negative opinion of any immigrants or Muslims. The lefty hate mob that is NSR will now taunt you with big words and their pack mentality. And when they're still unable to provide a decent argument they will just agree amongst themselves that you are thick.
12 December 2014, 07:33 PM
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Ooh Mr Thomas you'll be branded a racist for using what you see in your day to day life and forming a negative opinion of any immigrants or Muslims. The lefty hate mob that is NSR will now taunt you with big words and their pack mentality. And when they're still unable to provide a decent argument they will just agree amongst themselves that you are thick.
12 December 2014, 07:35 PM
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Ooh Mr Thomas you'll be branded a racist for using what you see in your day to day life and forming a negative opinion of any immigrants or Muslims. The lefty hate mob that is NSR will now taunt you with big words and their pack mentality. And when they're still unable to provide a decent argument they will just agree amongst themselves that you are thick.
Seriously, if you think the UK would have better off without ANY immigration over the last 50 years you are deluded.
12 December 2014, 08:03 PM
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I think only the horrid BNP will completely halt immigration (at first) the rest will probably just get tougher on vetting or not act at all in the case of Labour, Lib dems, Green Party or Cons.
It isn't just the "white indigenous" too that are against the influx of "foreigners" into their communities. It's just the media only portray "established" British culture as intolerant as they feel it is safer to self-criticise.
It isn't just the "white indigenous" too that are against the influx of "foreigners" into their communities. It's just the media only portray "established" British culture as intolerant as they feel it is safer to self-criticise.
12 December 2014, 08:30 PM
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Ooh Mr Thomas you'll be branded a racist for using what you see in your day to day life and forming a negative opinion of any immigrants or Muslims. The lefty hate mob that is NSR will now taunt you with big words and their pack mentality. And when they're still unable to provide a decent argument they will just agree amongst themselves that you are thick.
12 December 2014, 08:56 PM
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12 December 2014, 09:02 PM
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Ooh Mr Thomas you'll be branded a racist for using what you see in your day to day life and forming a negative opinion of any immigrants or Muslims. The lefty hate mob that is NSR will now taunt you with big words and their pack mentality. And when they're still unable to provide a decent argument they will just agree amongst themselves that you are thick.
Think Thomas can handle himself and beat the pack mentality
Good all round entertainment for the masses
As we don't talk about dump valves of subarus anymore
06 February 2015, 11:59 PM
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Soap not dope sent in the rent a mob - as he said, you may not want to vote for him, but in a democracy he must be heard, otherwise you are just an anti democratic fascist
07 February 2015, 12:42 PM
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07 February 2015, 12:47 PM
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So people exercising their democratic right to protest makes the anti democratic fascists. Interesting argument.
07 February 2015, 01:01 PM
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I would hope you understand the difference between the right to protest and suppressing free speech. I support and Nigel accepts the first, HNH use the second....
07 February 2015, 01:10 PM
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That link turbohot posted looks like a protest too me. As for HNH I've not paid any particular attention to their activities towards UKIP but just because it's against an organisation you support doesn't make it suppressing free speech. If they're really causing UKIP a that much grief then maybe the need to find a way round them. You shouldn't suppress one groups rights in order to favour another.
07 February 2015, 09:15 PM
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That link turbohot posted looks like a protest too me. As for HNH I've not paid any particular attention to their activities towards UKIP but just because it's against an organisation you support doesn't make it suppressing free speech. If they're really causing UKIP a that much grief then maybe the need to find a way round them. You shouldn't suppress one groups rights in order to favour another.
To let protesters actually prevent that from happening is mob rule, I'm sure you don't agree with that
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