Golf R Owners.....
You are on a hiding to nothing here... Matt knows best and all but his opinion are wrong. I don't like hondas or golfs or bmws but I can see the merits of each....
Arguably worth a look at for your track car project. Only problem is limited roll over protection compare to hatch/saloon, probably more than you are looking to spend and not easy to hold a drift - which appears to be what you are going for.
S2000 would need extra rollover protection to pass scrutineering, and is too nice for a beginner. You really have to have no fear and that may be my biggest problem, it is really brain in the glovebox time... if the glovebox has been stripped you have a problem.
Last edited by john banks; Jan 19, 2015 at 08:07 PM.
Well look at it this way, a 90mph drift in a 3-series with (presumably) a roll cage cannot be more risky than a jaunt through Fife's back roads 3-up in horrible half-light conditions in something that looks like this if you so much as kerb it...
Would have been a VTR, the MKII VTS (and the car pictured is a MKII) had a different wheel design. No idea of the story behind the picture, it was just a google search. They do get frisky on a trailing throttle though - it was great fun. With the TCS off I can't get my Leon to bite, even under extreme provocation
I spun my (then your) 406 V6 from lift off oversteer on a wet roundabout. Didn't hit anything. That roundabout often seems a bit slippy.
In the car it is hilarious. Will improve my oversteer skills.
In the car it is hilarious. Will improve my oversteer skills.
Last edited by john banks; Jan 19, 2015 at 08:38 PM.
John, I've been thinking about getting something to head along to DL with as well, seems like a really good set up there... it's between that and another Classic Scoob to have as a toy just now.
Cheers,
Grant
Cheers,
Grant
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After nigh on fifteen years of Imprezas (with a momentary Evo and Volvo S80 blip) I need a change. I've currently got a 400bhp twin scroll Blob (sc42 turbo) and as you say, unless you're gunning it you're feeling unfulfilled. I wouldn't mind a newer more modern equivalent but feel I'd miss the Impreza. 

Maybe not the right thread given the title, but the original poster Shaun now has an A45 and I've started drifting.
It was quite hilarious, but also quite difficult. The changing weather made it difficult to get consistency. With a welded diff I found that the 325ti with the rear interior stripped out and 215/50R16 Kumhos all round would initially be neutral or understeer and then with continued power move into nice oversteer which I was able to catch and hold. Not massive smoking drifts, but overdriving the rear with some angle. In the wet I had trouble with understeer, and had limited success mainly due to my beginner skills coordinating the hydraulic handbrake with the clutch, steeering and power, so generally it just made me spin but once got it spot on and the drift initiation was lovely, sometimes got it good in the dryish corners too to get the angle back and reduce understeer. However, my throttle and steering control was better than I expected and very enjoyable. The purest form I wanted to really nail was just power oversteer, and if I learn no more, I got that hooked up and sorted many times, if not very smokey and not with big angles. Still feels wild though.
At the end of the day the only damage was an intermittent crank position sensor, £12 replacement. Next time at the end of the month to return with sticky front tyres, steering angle modifications, and if time caster/camber plates and coilovers. Practice with cones in the farmyard is improving hydro/clutch/steering/power coordination so I can attempt to get a 90 degree turn whilst sliding but go and end up pointing where I want to.
Lots to learn. Lots of fun. Good diversion from stresses of work.
It was quite hilarious, but also quite difficult. The changing weather made it difficult to get consistency. With a welded diff I found that the 325ti with the rear interior stripped out and 215/50R16 Kumhos all round would initially be neutral or understeer and then with continued power move into nice oversteer which I was able to catch and hold. Not massive smoking drifts, but overdriving the rear with some angle. In the wet I had trouble with understeer, and had limited success mainly due to my beginner skills coordinating the hydraulic handbrake with the clutch, steeering and power, so generally it just made me spin but once got it spot on and the drift initiation was lovely, sometimes got it good in the dryish corners too to get the angle back and reduce understeer. However, my throttle and steering control was better than I expected and very enjoyable. The purest form I wanted to really nail was just power oversteer, and if I learn no more, I got that hooked up and sorted many times, if not very smokey and not with big angles. Still feels wild though.
At the end of the day the only damage was an intermittent crank position sensor, £12 replacement. Next time at the end of the month to return with sticky front tyres, steering angle modifications, and if time caster/camber plates and coilovers. Practice with cones in the farmyard is improving hydro/clutch/steering/power coordination so I can attempt to get a 90 degree turn whilst sliding but go and end up pointing where I want to.
Lots to learn. Lots of fun. Good diversion from stresses of work.
Last edited by john banks; Mar 6, 2015 at 02:01 PM.
Don't know what your Kumhos are like but you could consider using a cut slick, something like a Dunlop CR311, which you can get in a number of compounds. Put a soft compound on the front to get turn in and put a hard compound on the rear, maybe X12 front and X02 or X04 on the rear. I run CR311 on my Escort RS1800 which is setup for tarmac rallying.
If not Dunlops, as they may not be available in your size, Kumho, Hankook and DMACK all do motorsport tyres.
If not Dunlops, as they may not be available in your size, Kumho, Hankook and DMACK all do motorsport tyres.






