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Old 19 January 2015, 06:35 PM
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Well it was on the basis that conventional wisdom dictated that at less than 8 million RPM all vtec engines were useless. I went into it half-expecting the Saxo to keep up.
Old 19 January 2015, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Well it was on the basis that conventional wisdom dictated that at less than 8 million RPM all vtec engines were useless. I went into it half-expecting the Saxo to keep up.
You are on a hiding to nothing here... Matt knows best and all but his opinion are wrong. I don't like hondas or golfs or bmws but I can see the merits of each....
Old 19 January 2015, 07:07 PM
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I sadly never got the opportunity to go in your S2000 Kenny, but your confirmation that it would easily downshift to 1st for a corner even melted my turbocharged heart.
Old 19 January 2015, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I sadly never got the opportunity to go in your S2000 Kenny, but your confirmation that it would easily downshift to 1st for a corner even melted my turbocharged heart.
John, you have no idea....the gearbox was an absolute dream and gave no resistance to any down-shift as long as you rev matched. Even then, it would still go. I locked the diff dropping into first too early approaching a roundabout on the way to work one day. I didn't even know that could happen until I googled it when I got home.

Arguably worth a look at for your track car project. Only problem is limited roll over protection compare to hatch/saloon, probably more than you are looking to spend and not easy to hold a drift - which appears to be what you are going for.
Old 19 January 2015, 07:47 PM
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Gearboxes; now that's something Honda is a master at.
Old 19 January 2015, 08:05 PM
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S2000 would need extra rollover protection to pass scrutineering, and is too nice for a beginner. You really have to have no fear and that may be my biggest problem, it is really brain in the glovebox time... if the glovebox has been stripped you have a problem.

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Old 19 January 2015, 08:15 PM
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Well look at it this way, a 90mph drift in a 3-series with (presumably) a roll cage cannot be more risky than a jaunt through Fife's back roads 3-up in horrible half-light conditions in something that looks like this if you so much as kerb it...

Old 19 January 2015, 08:19 PM
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Ouch.
The wheels suggest that was a VTR?
Lift off oversteer...
Old 19 January 2015, 08:25 PM
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Quite slow, this is the 330ci I am looking at on the track I will use. Bear in mind it was freezing so tricky and speeds lower than summer...
Old 19 January 2015, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Ouch.
The wheels suggest that was a VTR?
Lift off oversteer...
Would have been a VTR, the MKII VTS (and the car pictured is a MKII) had a different wheel design. No idea of the story behind the picture, it was just a google search. They do get frisky on a trailing throttle though - it was great fun. With the TCS off I can't get my Leon to bite, even under extreme provocation
Old 19 January 2015, 08:35 PM
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That vid looks quite boring but I'll bet it's an absolute hoot, even at those speeds.
Old 19 January 2015, 08:37 PM
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I spun my (then your) 406 V6 from lift off oversteer on a wet roundabout. Didn't hit anything. That roundabout often seems a bit slippy.

In the car it is hilarious. Will improve my oversteer skills.

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Old 19 January 2015, 10:50 PM
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John, I've been thinking about getting something to head along to DL with as well, seems like a really good set up there... it's between that and another Classic Scoob to have as a toy just now.


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Old 19 January 2015, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I spun my (then your) 406 V6 from lift off oversteer on a wet roundabout. Didn't hit anything. That roundabout often seems a bit slippy.

In the car it is hilarious. Will improve my oversteer skills.
Good times. If there is a maker when I die one of the questions in my top 10 will be, "did I ****** 2nd instead of 4th or was it just her time"
Old 05 March 2015, 09:39 PM
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2015 dsg golf r 18mpg after 2 days

i hope it improves
Old 05 March 2015, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
2015 dsg golf r 18mpg after 2 days

i hope it improves
Is it exceptionally thirsty or are you having a lot of fun?
Old 05 March 2015, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Is it exceptionally thirsty or are you having a lot of fun?
having just got off a 6 month ban for multiple speedings ill let you decide

its not as bad as my twinscroll hawkeye
Old 05 March 2015, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
having just got off a 6 month ban for multiple speedings ill let you decide

its not as bad as my twinscroll hawkeye
How do you find it compared to the Hawk?
Old 05 March 2015, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
2015 dsg golf r 18mpg after 2 days

i hope it improves


Take it out of "Race mode" and put it in "Eco mode" managing 25mpg, so not to bad in mine!!!
Old 05 March 2015, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
How do you find it compared to the Hawk?
jdm is aggresive 24/7 golf has options to be civilised if you want

2 diferent cars jdm would waste golf r tbf 50bhp more
Old 05 March 2015, 09:53 PM
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Needs a map then

A remap really brings the tfsi to life, trust me btw I never saw over 25mpg in my k1 tbh don't get much better in the a4 quattro tfsi
Old 05 March 2015, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
jdm is aggresive 24/7 golf has options to be civilised if you want

2 diferent cars jdm would waste golf r tbf 50bhp more
After nigh on fifteen years of Imprezas (with a momentary Evo and Volvo S80 blip) I need a change. I've currently got a 400bhp twin scroll Blob (sc42 turbo) and as you say, unless you're gunning it you're feeling unfulfilled. I wouldn't mind a newer more modern equivalent but feel I'd miss the Impreza.
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Originally Posted by cuprajake
Needs a map then

A remap really brings the tfsi to life, trust me btw I never saw over 25mpg in my k1 tbh don't get much better in the a4 quattro tfsi
I love the pops and crackles the standard exhaust makes in Race mode, so Im thinking Milltek system and a remap
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I'm about 8 weeks away from mine arriving... and time seems to be slowing down?!


Cheers,
Grant
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
I'm about 8 weeks away from mine arriving... and time seems to be slowing down?!


Cheers,
Grant
You will love it Grant I'll detail mine the weekend and post some pics up!!
Old 05 March 2015, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
After nigh on fifteen years of Imprezas (with a momentary Evo and Volvo S80 blip) I need a change. I've currently got a 400bhp twin scroll Blob (sc42 turbo) and as you say, unless you're gunning it you're feeling unfulfilled. I wouldn't mind a newer more modern equivalent but feel I'd miss the Impreza.
Get an A45 and a tuning box.... It will be all over it!
Old 06 March 2015, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
You will love it Grant I'll detail mine the weekend and post some pics up!!
I hope so, I've never waited this long... for anything actually?!

Look forward to seeing your pictures.


Cheers,
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Old 06 March 2015, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Get an A45 and a tuning box.... It will be all over it!
I'd miss the feel of a **** in my hand
I can't get over the idea of not having a manual. It's ingrained in my DNA. Tell me you don't miss swapping the cogs yourself Shaun.
Old 06 March 2015, 01:54 PM
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Maybe not the right thread given the title, but the original poster Shaun now has an A45 and I've started drifting.

It was quite hilarious, but also quite difficult. The changing weather made it difficult to get consistency. With a welded diff I found that the 325ti with the rear interior stripped out and 215/50R16 Kumhos all round would initially be neutral or understeer and then with continued power move into nice oversteer which I was able to catch and hold. Not massive smoking drifts, but overdriving the rear with some angle. In the wet I had trouble with understeer, and had limited success mainly due to my beginner skills coordinating the hydraulic handbrake with the clutch, steeering and power, so generally it just made me spin but once got it spot on and the drift initiation was lovely, sometimes got it good in the dryish corners too to get the angle back and reduce understeer. However, my throttle and steering control was better than I expected and very enjoyable. The purest form I wanted to really nail was just power oversteer, and if I learn no more, I got that hooked up and sorted many times, if not very smokey and not with big angles. Still feels wild though.

At the end of the day the only damage was an intermittent crank position sensor, £12 replacement. Next time at the end of the month to return with sticky front tyres, steering angle modifications, and if time caster/camber plates and coilovers. Practice with cones in the farmyard is improving hydro/clutch/steering/power coordination so I can attempt to get a 90 degree turn whilst sliding but go and end up pointing where I want to.

Lots to learn. Lots of fun. Good diversion from stresses of work.

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Old 06 March 2015, 03:42 PM
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Don't know what your Kumhos are like but you could consider using a cut slick, something like a Dunlop CR311, which you can get in a number of compounds. Put a soft compound on the front to get turn in and put a hard compound on the rear, maybe X12 front and X02 or X04 on the rear. I run CR311 on my Escort RS1800 which is setup for tarmac rallying.

If not Dunlops, as they may not be available in your size, Kumho, Hankook and DMACK all do motorsport tyres.


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